Liandra pops in!

[arsby]

Now now Artlover, I don't care about the size of your pride and joy, I am referring to the size of your prick.

...and isn't it cool that while engage in this high-handed discourse we use vbCode called (size).

[artlover]

Ah Arsby, thou art one step ahead of me... Actually my pride and joy is my cat, to whom this discussion is doubtlessly irrelevant, since he's been "fixed" for seven years. As long as I feed him and pamper him incessantly, all is well.

Hey Liandra! You like cats?

[arsby]

More to the point, Liandra, do you like males who have been fixed? :)

[mrpinkeyes]

Hi Liandra...

I would think about and want to B) Throw scalding hot coffee in his crotch and tell him his views repulse you. But not being one for confrontation I would let him know that I strongly disagree with his views and ask him how he could even think such a thing when he has chatted to some of these models on the boards, the only way we really get to know a model, and not one of them has ever come across as anything like being a "amoral little prick teases, or even worse attention seeking whores". As for not wanting a relationship with one well... I'm not sure if I would like the idea of my girlfriend posing for AW, but, and this may not make allot of sense, I would have no problems being in a relationship with a model that had posed for AW. I can't explain why that is, it doesn't even make sense to me unless it’s that caveman male possessive thing buried somewhere inside male.

[Abby]

I'm not sure if I would like the idea of my girlfriend posing for AW, but, and this may not make allot of sense, I would have no problems being in a relationship with a model that had posed for AW.
hm. If you could only see the multitude of models we interviewed, but were then "not allowed" to pose, accordng to their boyfs. grrr.

a

[dagger28256]

hm. If you could only see the multitude of models we interviewed, but were then "not allowed" to pose, accordng to their boyfs. grrr.

a
Heh, I have no problem there, my gf is way to shy to ever do a photoshoot (even a private one, though I've asked many times!). But back to Lianda's question...

Although I would feel the urge to do option B, I would more likely express my views that are quite contrary to his. That a girls morality is not the same as modesty, even in the Christian way. A woman who enjoys posing, can do so as much as she wants in my opinion, as long as it's actually what she wants. If he would maintain a dignified discussion with me, then I may continue talking with him. If not, then that would be the end of that meeting.

dg

[Peter552]

they are all probably amoral little prick teases, or even worse attention seeking whores; he enjoys looking, and he'd fuck them if given the chance but he'd be repulsed at the idea of a relationship, and he feels contempt for any man that would. Would you....

E) I would write it all down, then post it on the board and 'name and shame' him. I would particularly look forward to reading your response, Liandra :p

[liandra]

E) This seems an unlikely scenario. The regulars on the boards are gentlemanly and respectful and I would be very much surprised if any of them turned out to be any different in person.
Oh I know, I was just trying to get a conversation going, probing your grey cells in superficial but entertaining way.


while I think female beauty is commodified and women judged far too much on their looks, if working with Abby makes a girl more aware of her own beauty, I am all for it.
I think you're right about participating on Abby having this effect on a girls own self awareness. I am not sure if it's being more aware of your beauty, but there is a deepening of ease with in your own skin and every part of your body.



What do you do when people make judgmental comments about your posing? Is there a trail of broken chairs and coffee stained rugs across the nightspots of Melbourne? :D
The only person that has ever made a judgement to my face was my ex-boyf. He wasn't quite as bad as the imaginary AW member in my question but he thought it was wrong, and could not understand why anyone would do this sort of work. Especially someone who has the views on life that I have. Verity made a great attempt to explain once but to no avail. It's all by the by now, as we are no longer together.

[liandra]

Ah Arsby, thou art one step ahead of me... Actually my pride and joy is my cat, to whom this discussion is doubtlessly irrelevant, since he's been "fixed" for seven years. As long as I feed him and pamper him incessantly, all is well.

Hey Liandra! You like cats?Well, i grew up on a farm in South East England and our cats weren't fixed and we had them all over the place. I think they're great but I don't have one. I've never owned one that was specifically mine either. In fact the only animal that I have owned was a horse, I've owned a few of those. My ex-husband was a jockey too.

[BigSpud]

... Would you....
...
E) None of the above (please specify)I would ask why the apparent change of attitude and then slug him with the chair! :)

Over the years I have gotten to know some of the members here in exchanges outside of this forum and I would seriously doubt that any of them would have such a change of attitude in person. I think a person's real self does come through in communications over a period of time.

[liandra]

Hi Liandra...

I would think about and want to B) Throw scalding hot coffee in his crotch and tell him his views repulse you. But not being one for confrontation I would let him know that I strongly disagree with his views and ask him how he could even think such a thing when he has chatted to some of these models on the boards, the only way we really get to know a model, and not one of them has ever come across as anything like being a "amoral little prick teases, or even worse attention seeking whores". As for not wanting a relationship with one well... I'm not sure if I would like the idea of my girlfriend posing for AW, but, and this may not make allot of sense, I would have no problems being in a relationship with a model that had posed for AW. I can't explain why that is, it doesn't even make sense to me unless it’s that caveman male possessive thing buried somewhere inside male. I think it makes sense, exclusivity of nakedness in a relationship is a reasonable expectation as long as you make it clear. I don't think any girl would do this taking for granted that her boyf won't mind. If she has a boyf and she knows he'll be fine about this sort of thing then I would imagine he would know prior and would have been party to the decision. If she has aboyf and suspects he'll hate it, she probably keeps it to herself or not go through with it.

[liandra]

hm. If you could only see the multitude of models we interviewed, but were then "not allowed" to pose, accordng to their boyfs. grrr.

a
I suppose that's better than them doing the shoot then having an angry boyf knocking on your door! Has it ever happened?

[liandra]

E) I would write it all down, then post it on the board and 'name and shame' him. I would particularly look forward to reading your response, Liandra :p
Ha ha ha ha, What a bloody excellent idea. Throw the bastard to the lions (and i mean members, staff and models, not just myself in that metaphor)

[liandra]

I would ask why the apparent change of attitude and then slug him with the chair! :)

Over the years I have gotten to know some of the members here in exchanges outside of this forum and I would seriously doubt that any of them would have such a change of attitude in person. I think a person's real self does come through in communications over a period of time.
OK, for clarity I just want mention that I don't actually suspect any of you to be like my imagined offender.

Well in answer to my own question, being so much more personally involved in his views on the models I would probably combine A and B and Peter552's suggestion.

[liandra]

It is an unwritten rule here at the AW boards that your post has to be shorter than your prick.


But I don't have a prick :( , and my corresponding body part could be compared to hmmm... lets say, a butterbean;) .

[artlover]

I don't think the unwritten rule should apply to spunky models.

Maybe the unwritten rule should be amended to the old rule about never eating anything bigger than your head... :)

[liandra]

OK, another question, as I was so very entertained by the responses to the last one.

Have any of you ever considered posing, or have posed in a nude photoshoot. Whether for private or public availability?
Would you consider it now?
Would you feel comfortable as the viewed object rather than the voyeur?

[liandra]

I don't think the unwritten rule should apply to spunky models.

Maybe the unwritten rule should be amended to the old rule about never eating anything bigger than your head... :)
Oh damn it, I've already broken that rule too. It was a KING Souvlaki, whilst stumbling home along Brunswick Street, and it was humungous. When I ordered it the big fat Greek dude behind the counter said "are you sure about this?", being ridiculously drunk and ludicrously stubborn, I spent the next 50 minutes trying to finish it, while he laughed at me from behind the counter. I prevailed! Though I was less proud of myself the next day.

[BigSpud]

OK, another question, as I was so very entertained by the responses to the last one.

Have any of you ever considered posing, or have posed in a nude photoshoot. Whether for private or public availability?
Would you consider it now?
Would you feel comfortable as the viewed object rather than the voyeur?I absolutely cannot imagine that anyone would be the least bit interested. FWIW, I have thought about it. I think a nude beach would be very interesting. I would love to try that.

[mrpinkeyes]

If she has aboyf and suspects he'll hate it, she probably keeps it to herself or not go through with it.

hm. If you could only see the multitude of models we interviewed, but were then "not allowed" to pose, accordng to their boyfs. grrr.
This would be my quandary. Although I would not like the idea of my girlf posing for AW. I don’t think, as a boyf, it gives me the right to "not allow" her to pose. It is her body after all. And the “window of opportunity” for a girl to pose for a site like AW is quite small. I would hate to be the cause of her having regrets later in life.
Luckily or unluckily for me I don’t expect to be ever have this quandary. My days of going out with gorgeous young ladies, like the AW models, are behind me unless I start saving up to become a sugar daddy

[mrpinkeyes]

Being one that is not comfortable with his own nudity or a big fan of having his photo taken I would probably have to say No.
The answer may well have been different if I had spent more time at the gym, had a few less abdominal scars (the result of two Kidney transplants and a hernia operation) and be hung like a donkey.
So put me in the Voyeur camp, please.

[dagger28256]

Well, I'm comfortable with my body, and wouldn't mind doing a private shoot, or even going to a communally nude place (Nudist beach, bar, etc.), but I don't think I would go for a public shoot. Mainly because I consider erotic nudity something for a relationship. But, if I wasn't in a relationship, then it's fair game. As of right now though, my body belongs wholely to my girl, so no, I wouldn't do an erotic public shoot as of right now.

dg

[mrpinkeyes]

Oh damn it, I've already broken that rule too. It was a KING Souvlaki, whilst stumbling home along Brunswick Street, and it was humungous. When I ordered it the big fat Greek dude behind the counter said "are you sure about this?", being ridiculously drunk and ludicrously stubborn, I spent the next 50 minutes trying to finish it, while he laughed at me from behind the counter. I prevailed! Though I was less proud of myself the next day.
"“The good news is that the chicken, lamb, or pork souvlaki (kebobs) are great choices — fairly low in fat and rich in vegetables,” said CSPI senior nutritionist Jayne Hurley, who conducted the study.
Chicken, lamb, and pork souvlaki are lower-fat main dishes that provide a decent serving of grilled vegetables. A typical order of chicken souvlaki has just 260 calories and eight grams of fat. Lamb or pork skewers have 310 calories and 11 grams of fat."

So thats how you keep your great figure.

MrPinkEyes

[alexbee]

I think a nude beach would be very interesting. I would love to try that.

DON'T forget the sunblock, lots of it.... ;) :D

[backpocket]

But I don't have a prick :( , and my corresponding body part could be compared to hmmm... lets say, a butterbean;) .
Liandra,

I never liked butter beans before but now I think I have a new favorite vegetable:D. I better keep this short as to Arsby's old rule:eek:. Gee it's hard being new to the boards when you don't know all the rules...

bp

[Peter552]

Have any of you ever considered posing, or have posed in a nude photoshoot. Whether for private or public availability?
Would you consider it now?
Would you feel comfortable as the viewed object rather than the voyeur?

Like BigSpud, I don't think anybody would want to look at nude pictures of me, but it is one of my fantasies - where the photographer is a lady and she requires me to have an erection...

I have been on the nude beach in Brighton, and I did enjoy being noticed, even by the gays.

[backpocket]

OK, another question, as I was so very entertained by the responses to the last one.

Have any of you ever considered posing, or have posed in a nude photoshoot. Whether for private or public availability?

Liandra,

I did a private shoot for a friend in Chicago 20+ years ago. She was an aspiring photographer shooting all black and whites for her portfolio. She was very good but had a real hard time getting any men willing to pose for her because the photos would be seen both in gallery and for interviews. I was not what male models of the period looked like. I was hairy, stocky with a little flab on a real solid frame and in my mid 20's. At the time I was driving tunnel as a driller blaster for a project under the city of Chicago in the evening and playing on the beach and parks during the day. I lost touch with Ms. M who was ten years my senior after she moved to England two years later. I actually wish I had a couple of the photos around but my ex got pissed about something and destroyed the ones I had from the shoot.

Would you consider it now?

What the heck, I would need another kind photographer though and some time to work on myself.

Would you feel comfortable as the viewed object rather than the voyeur?
I am woking 16 to 20 hours a day. Get little time out of doors so I don't know the size of the audiance that would want to view my hairy & far to pale body. (I know new rule please don't include T M I "Too Much Information"! or maybe it's an old rule,. I get so confused.) I would also be affaid to see the demographics of that group. I would, however, love to be viewed as an object yet again and again and again......... I'm hoping for a nice beautiful blind woman who loves sex... Any ideas???

bp

[artlover]

I would like to be admired for my well-toned body. Gotta get one first, tho.

I heard of a guy who was a little too much enamored of his own body. This was told to me by the manager of a local art gallery that offers figure drawing classes. One night the students, mostly women I think, were to draw a male figure. Well, the model shows up, disrobes and poses. It seems he's very, uh, proud to be there. The evidence of his, uh, pride, is visible and lengthy for the full two hours. :eek: The woman who told me this was not so much shocked as convinced that this guy had a very high, so to speak, opinion of himself.

I think it would be wonderful to be able to walk around on a fine day without anything on and enjoy the breeze and it would not be a big deal. Alas, western society is a long way from that.

Liandra, I love your souvlaki story. A similar thing happened to me in, ironically, an Outback Steakhouse. I ordered a Blooming Onion, which is essentially a really big fried onion cut cleverly to resemble a many-petalled flower. It's about ten or twelve inches in diameter. It was delicious... but about four hours later I had the worst gas attack in a long time. Never again! but like you, Liandra, I took it as a challenge to my eating prowess. :(

[Abby]

...having an angry boyf knocking on your door! Has it ever happened?
Oh, the stories we could tell... *sigh*

a

[ThePope]

OK, another question, as I was so very entertained by the responses to the last one.

Have any of you ever considered posing, or have posed in a nude photoshoot. Whether for private or public availability?
Would you consider it now?
Would you feel comfortable as the viewed object rather than the voyeur? Really admire the courage of those that can, be it male or female but it's not something I've done or ever will. I guess it's partly as the result of upbringing and partly through letting ones self be dicated to by the way society in general views such things. That and the fact I don't have the balls to do it :)

[alleyes1]

I have done the "private session" thing a couple of times in the past. Once pre-internet, once in the internet age. As far as my gf being an AW model, I really don't know because anyone who I would date wouldn't qualify (age) :p, but in general if she said she'd like to pose for a site and she really wanted to, i would say fine, but what I wouldn't like, is to log onto the internet and voila! there she is. Now I'm talking about someone I'm in a serious relationship here, not someone i've known for six weeks.

Alleyes

[alleyes1]

Liandra, you're threads are always amazing to me. I log onto you're thread and it always takes me 45 minutes to get caught up on all the interesting conversation!!! :)

I asked this question (not quite this way) of Evangeline and it resulted in quite a bit of conversation, so I'll ask you:
Try to picture in you're mind, the guy that you think would be you're perfect man(not just looks but the guy all-around). Once you can see him, what is it about him that you are attracted to?

Alleyes

[liandra]

Wow, that was an even better response than the last question! I'm realy enjoying this:D , I shall have to spend my hours of reverie dreaming up questions to ask you that may stimulate interesting responses. I'm a chronic insomniac so I do spend hours in reverie. It can get very wierd, but then so are my dreams when I do finally get to sleep.

[liandra]

I absolutely cannot imagine that anyone would be the least bit interested. FWIW, I have thought about it. I think a nude beach would be very interesting. I would love to try that.Well you may be surprised, but you could always do it just for yourself.



Being one that is not comfortable with his own nudity or a big fan of having his photo taken I would probably have to say No.
The answer may well have been different if I had spent more time at the gym, had a few less abdominal scars (the result of two Kidney transplants and a hernia operation) and be hung like a donkey.
So put me in the Voyeur camp, please.
Well it's not for everyone but scars can be quite erotic. As for being hung like a donkey, it's not the size of the dick but the shape that really matters.



Well, I'm comfortable with my body, and wouldn't mind doing a private shoot, or even going to a communally nude place (Nudist beach, bar, etc.), but I don't think I would go for a public shoot. Mainly because I consider erotic nudity something for a relationship. But, if I wasn't in a relationship, then it's fair game. As of right now though, my body belongs wholely to my girl, so no, I wouldn't do an erotic public shoot as of right now.
I love the idea of going to a nudist beach, I haven't actually been to one yet but it will be a goal I'll set for this coming summer. I admire the devotion of your body to your girl, your eyes are not so exclusive eh? Or are you just coming to AW for the discourses?;)



Like BigSpud, I don't think anybody would want to look at nude pictures of me, but it is one of my fantasies - where the photographer is a lady and she requires me to have an erection...
I have been on the nude beach in Brighton, and I did enjoy being noticed, even by the gays
Oooo I like hearing about peoples fantasies, I can see why that one would be a favourite.
Attention is nice, I know ideally we're supposed to find our confidence autonomously but a little outside help isn't such a bad thing. Is it?


I am woking 16 to 20 hours a day. That's a bloody long day, I hope that's only four days a week!!! In my first job on the trading floor in a London branch of a major US Investment bank, I used to work a 60-70 hour week. I thought that was extraordinarily excessive. I guess I wasn't ambitious enough, I only lasted three years, then I abandoned it for world travel.

[liandra]

I heard of a guy who was a little too much enamored of his own body. This was told to me by the manager of a local art gallery that offers figure drawing classes. One night the students, mostly women I think, were to draw a male figure. Well, the model shows up, disrobes and poses. It seems he's very, uh, proud to be there. The evidence of his, uh, pride, is visible and lengthy for the full two hours. :eek: The woman who told me this was not so much shocked as convinced that this guy had a very high, so to speak, opinion of himself.
I am amazed he could keep a "very high" erection for two hours with out fainting. Maybe his brain doesn't need much blood supply. Well if I were in the class I would have enjoyed the lengthy opportunity to sketch an erect one. I think life models usually come with out the extra few inches.




Really admire the courage of those that can, be it male or female but it's not something I've done or ever will. I guess it's partly as the result of upbringing and partly through letting ones self be dicated to by the way society in general views such things. That and the fact I don't have the balls to do it :)
Why, what's wrong with your balls?;)



I have done the "private session" thing a couple of times in the past. Once pre-internet, once in the internet age. As far as my gf being an AW model, I really don't know because anyone who I would date wouldn't qualify (age) :p, but in general if she said she'd like to pose for a site and she really wanted to, i would say fine, but what I wouldn't like, is to log onto the internet and voila! there she is. Now I'm talking about someone I'm in a serious relationship here, not someone i've known for six weeks.
So did you keep the negs to your private sessions? or did she?

Yeah it would be a shock to log on and find your long term girlfriend startkers on the net. Do you mean you wouldn't like it if she had done it while you were together with out saying she was doing it, or even if she had done it before she had ever met you but never told you she had?

[liandra]

Liandra, you're threads are always amazing to me. I log onto you're thread and it always takes me 45 minutes to get caught up on all the interesting conversation!!! :)

I asked this question (not quite this way) of Evangeline and it resulted in quite a bit of conversation, so I'll ask you:
Try to picture in you're mind, the guy that you think would be you're perfect man(not just looks but the guy all-around). Once you can see him, what is it about him that you are attracted to?

Alleyes
Aw thanks Alleyes, glad you're enjoying it as much as I am.

Ok, hmmm... this is hard for me, I don't have a type, my partners have been extremely varied in physical appearance and I don't usually fantasize about celebrities either. It's hard for me to visualise a perfect man. I'll try though, screws up her face in concentration and effort... ok, the way he touches me and the way he moves.

[alleyes1]

So did you keep the negs to your private sessions? or did she? Well, the first time, it was one of those cameras where when you pushed the button, the picture came out of the camera in about 3 seconds or something like that, then you had to wait 30 sec., or so for the picture to be ready. I threw hers away when she got married to someone else.
The second one was a digital camera and have them stored on offline storage for safe keeping. ;)


Do you mean you wouldn't like it if she had done it while you were together with out saying she was doing it Yes that's what I meant, she doing while we were together. My personal rule of thumb on that is that I'm getting really serious with a woman, I tell her anything in my past that might come back to bite our relastionship. Otherwise, what's past is past, I say. :)


ok, the way he touches me and the way he moves. Well, what about his brains? I picture you to be a fabulous person to talk with over dinner. If he's some dumb boob (different meaning :p), I don't see you being very happy with him.

Alleyes

[dagger28256]

I love the idea of going to a nudist beach, I haven't actually been to one yet but it will be a goal I'll set for this coming summer. I admire the devotion of your body to your girl, your eyes are not so exclusive eh? Or are you just coming to AW for the discourses?;) Of course I'm just here for all the discussion!;)

Ok, maybe not... But hey, I have to have something to do in my free time while she's not around, and sometimes, it's even fun to look at all the beautiful models together. Then, whisper into her ear all the reasons why she's so beautiful, and all the wonderful things about her, as compared to the models (not to really insult any of the models here, but I just really love my girl <3).

dg

[artlover]

Since you like questions, Liandra (so do I, obviously :D )...

What's the lamest pickup line you've ever heard?

A female coworker once told me that a guy asked her if she was an astronaut... because she had an ass that was out of this world. :rolleyes:

[liandra]

Well, what about his brains? I picture you to be a fabulous person to talk with over dinner. If he's some dumb boob (different meaning :p), I don't see you being very happy with him.

Alleyes
Well I sort of took that for granted, but your absolutely right, I have been out with a one or two himbos or "dumb boobs" and it wasn't much fun. However, if he was super intelligent I would appreciate a bit of humility with it. I do not like being made to feel stupid, even when I have clearly been just that. I don't mean a joke about a silly mistake, but when someone talks to you like you are a vacuous cretin, well that's just obnoxious and gauche.

[liandra]

Of course I'm just here for all the discussion!;)

Ok, maybe not... But hey, I have to have something to do in my free time while she's not around, and sometimes, it's even fun to look at all the beautiful models together. Then, whisper into her ear all the reasons why she's so beautiful, and all the wonderful things about her, as compared to the models (not to really insult any of the models here, but I just really love my girl <3).

dg
Ahw, that's so cute! I tried to get my last boyfriend to share porn with me, unfortunately we had very different tastes. His favourite website was www.barelylegalteenswithbighairtoomuchmakeupanddre ssedascheerleaderswithsillypompoms.com (http://www.barelylegalteenswithbighairtoomuchmakeupanddre ssedascheerleaderswithsillypompoms.com) which just wasn't my cup of tea. He also hated the fact that I had folios on www.ishotmyself.com (http://www.ishotmyself.com), www.abbywinters.com (http://www.abbywinters.com) and www.girlsoutwest.com (http://www.girlsoutwest.com). We managed to watch a few old classic porn movies together, like The story of O, and one called Swingers, and some others, oh yeah, and Debbie does Dallas:p . We broke up just recently but over a completely unrelated issue.

[liandra]

Since you like questions, Liandra (so do I, obviously :D )...

What's the lamest pickup line you've ever heard?

A female coworker once told me that a guy asked her if she was an astronaut... because she had an ass that was out of this world. :rolleyes:
Umm... probably "excuse me, I'm just going to the bank and I need to know, how many drinks will I have to buy you before you'll go home with me tonight?"

[liandra]

Ok, another question for you guys.

If you could create and live out a role play/ dressing up sexual fantasy with a sexual partner of your choice, what/ where/ why/ how would the fantasy be?

[alleyes1]

if he was super intelligent I would appreciate a bit of humility with it Oh, yea, no doubt. It's not just about being smart, it's about being smart and not having to prove it to everyone.:cool: Very cool.

Alleyes

[BigSpud]

...We managed to watch a few old classic porn movies together, like The story of O, and one called Swingers, and some others, oh yeah, and Debbie does Dallas:p ...My wife and I used to watch the porn flicks. She was too embarrassed to go to a theater where they were playing, but when VCRs became popular then she was willing. We liked DDD and an X-rated version of Alice in Wonderland (that was her very favorite as she liked stories with the sex).

[BigSpud]

Ok, another question for you guys.

If you could create and live out a role play/ dressing up sexual fantasy with a sexual partner of your choice, what/ where/ why/ how would the fantasy be?I would have to say watersports.

In a fantasy world there would be no restriction to my flow and I would aim the stream right at my partner's butterbean. Then she would return the favor by hosing my cock with a strong, hot stream.

:o (I am really admitting this??)

ps

That remids me. There used to be a young woman who posted here regularly under the name of Jus1drun. I wonder what ever happened to her. She was a lot like you, Liandra. Very frank and outspoken.

[dagger28256]

Ok, another question for you guys.

If you could create and live out a role play/ dressing up sexual fantasy with a sexual partner of your choice, what/ where/ why/ how would the fantasy be?
Hmm... I'm a very nice person, but my girl likes me to be rough sometimes, but it's not what I'm about. So, for myself, I'd like to play the part of a gentleman seducer. Ya know, come home looking completely different from how I left that day, and just knock on the door. Then take my wife/mate/girl (whichever it is) out on a date, and play the persona of someone completely different. During the date I would work to seduce her, and convince her to take me home with her, to have hot, passionate sex. Then get dressed and leave.

Now, that one might seem wierd, because I'm sure lot's of people do that stuff anyways. But I'm a virgin, and going to only be with one girl my entire life, once I devote myself that way. So I'd never have the chance to do something like that, and to do it in a knowing relationship, in a playful way, sounds very fun and inviting.

dg

[arsby]

That remids me. There used to be a young woman who posted here regularly under the name of Jus1drun. I wonder what ever happened to her. She was a lot like you, Liandra. Very frank and outspoken.
Nah, Liandra seems much more centered than Jus1drun, Jus was much more flighty. Remember? Smileys and lol's everywhere? Also, I don't remember Jus ever talking about her love life at all.
I haven't been in contact with her. Anyone else?


If you could create and live out a role play/ dressing up sexual fantasy with a sexual partner of your choice, what/ where/ why/ how would the fantasy be?
What, one partner? How about 10 or 15. One right after another. And I look like Brad Pitt and am built like one of those male model hunks in the PartyHardcore flicks.

[BigSpud]

Nah, Liandra seems much more centered than Jus1drun, Jus was much more flighty. Remember? Smileys and lol's everywhere? Also, I don't remember Jus ever talking about her love life at all.
I haven't been in contact with her. Anyone else?...Hi Arsby, Yah, I think you are right. I guess I was just so surprised that she was actively participating that I overlooked those things. So she and Liandra are similar in their active participation on the boards (and we will leave it at that).
:)

[liandra]

Oh, yea, no doubt. It's not just about being smart, it's about being smart and not having to prove it to everyone.:cool: Very cool.

Alleyes
Yes, you have your finger on the button (or do I mean the butterbean) :o

[liandra]

an X-rated version of Alice in Wonderland (that was her very favorite as she liked stories with the sex).
You are going to have to tell me all about that one, frame for frame. For example, was it a cartoon? Did she do it with the cheshire cat? I hope Alice was a bit older in the X-rated version.:eek:

[alleyes1]

Yes, you have your finger on the button (or do I mean the butterbean) :o
Liandra, you know you really are tempting me to become a vegetarian!! ;)

[liandra]

I would have to say watersports.

In a fantasy world there would be no restriction to my flow and I would aim the stream right at my partner's butterbean. Then she would return the favor by hosing my cock with a strong, hot stream.

:o (I am really admitting this??)

ps

That remids me. There used to be a young woman who posted here regularly under the name of Jus1drun. I wonder what ever happened to her. She was a lot like you, Liandra. Very frank and outspoken.
When I began reading that I had summoned up images of you trying to copulate whilst wake boarding!

So you like the idea of a golden shower eh? You're certainly not alone. I used to have a friend who I called port-a-loo when we were alone and I felt like stirring her up(sometimes in public but a swift kick in the shins would shut me up). She used to have terrific orgasms when her ex-fiance used to urinate inside her vagina!:eek:

[liandra]

Nah, Liandra seems much more centered than Jus1drun, Jus was much more flighty. Remember? Smileys and lol's everywhere? Also, I don't remember Jus ever talking about her love life at all.
I haven't been in contact with her. Anyone else?


What, one partner? How about 10 or 15. One right after another. And I look like Brad Pitt and am built like one of those male model hunks in the PartyHardcore flicks.
Well if you're going to fantasize why not go the whole hog!

[BigSpud]

You are going to have to tell me all about that one, frame for frame. For example, was it a cartoon? Did she do it with the cheshire cat? I hope Alice was a bit older in the X-rated version.:eek:It was live. Christine deBell was Alice. There were 2 versions X and R and you could see where the scenes were added for the X.

Alice works in a library and after closing one night she gets a little sleepy and starts dreaming that she saw the white rabbit. She takes the drugs to make her small and follows the rabbit (a person in a rabbit suit).

She has a Tea Party with the Mad Hatter who has a number (8 1/2 I think) on his hat. She asks if that is his hat size and he says No.

Humpty Dumpty can't get his dingaling up and needs help from some very sweet nurses. They dance around him stripping and then fellating him. Pretty soon it is up.

Alice goes to a brook and is sitting by the side when she hears a voice urging her to enjoy herself. She begins a masturbation scene that was one of my favorites. She gets dried off by the forest creatures licking her dry all over.

Alice encounters Jack and Jill and they end up having a very good time together in (at that time) one of the best sex scenes I had seen. Jill with very nicely shaped, firm breasts and a shaved pussy was astride Jack facing away from him. She rocked back and forth and then leaned back to expose his shaft splitting her pussy lips. Remember this was 30 years ago!

More later if you want. :)

[artlover]

It's good to know the classics never lose their charm... :)

[Roops]

She has a Tea Party with the Mad Hatter who has a number (8 1/2 I think) on his hat. She asks if that is his hat size and he says No.If I may inject some pedantry here. In the book the figure is 10/6 meaning the price of the hat (in that particular style) of ten shillings and 6 pence. (Six pence = half a shilling). This was in the days of £.s.d before europhile fifth columnists persuaded our leaders to convert the British currency to decimal.

Full marks by the way to Da Spud for having the balls to reveal his fantasy. He’s lucky – he might realise his dreams one day. My fantasy will never happen. I often fantasise having one clear hour of uninterrupted peace and quiet in my study where I can read my newspaper.

[BigSpud]

...Full marks by the way to Da Spud for having the balls to reveal his fantasy. He’s lucky – he might realise his dreams one day. My fantasy will never happen. I often fantasise having one clear hour of uninterrupted peace and quiet in my study where I can read my newspaper.Thanks, Roops, and welcome back to the land of AW. The best of luck to you to get yours too. I thought I was going to have all summer by myself, but things got re-arranged. I do, now finally, have that peace and quiet!

[Peter552]

Ok, another question for you guys.

If you could create and live out a role play/ dressing up sexual fantasy with a sexual partner of your choice, what/ where/ why/ how would the fantasy be?
Only 36 hours since you asked this and the thread has already veered off in several different directions! I guess that's the way it goes.

Anyway, I think I'd like to dress her as the sacrificial victim - ankle-length white robe (light material but not sheer), bare feet and hands tied in front of her.
She would remain absolutely still and expressionless for 20-30 min. while I touched groped fondled her everywhere, both through and under the robe. Then I'd bend her over, lift the robe to her waist and give her a few purificatory strokes of the whip before ritually 'deflowering' her.

Oh, I have to say where and why as well? Ideally a field in West Cork at dawn. And why? Because I'm a pervert, obviously!

[Peter552]

My wife and I used to watch...an X-rated version of Alice in Wonderland
What was it called? Who was in it? Can you still order it on the net?

[BigSpud]

What was it called? Who was in it? Can you still order it on the net?Curiously it was called Alice in Wonderland. Do a google on "Alice in Wonderland" "Kristine DeBell" and you will get 4,700 hits. One of them ought to point you to somewhere you can buy it.

[Peter552]

Mmm, yes! They even have a couple of very short clips here (http://www.sog10.com/gallery01/c003_i8/).

[liandra]

Hmm... I'm a very nice person, but my girl likes me to be rough sometimes, but it's not what I'm about. So, for myself, I'd like to play the part of a gentleman seducer. Ya know, come home looking completely different from how I left that day, and just knock on the door. Then take my wife/mate/girl (whichever it is) out on a date, and play the persona of someone completely different. During the date I would work to seduce her, and convince her to take me home with her, to have hot, passionate sex. Then get dressed and leave.

Now, that one might seem wierd, because I'm sure lot's of people do that stuff anyways. But I'm a virgin, and going to only be with one girl my entire life, once I devote myself that way. So I'd never have the chance to do something like that, and to do it in a knowing relationship, in a playful way, sounds very fun and inviting.

dg
Under the circumstances it makes perfect sense and I hope you get to really enjoy doing it many times. A virgin eh? I admire you sexual restraint, I honestly think it's better to have sexual experience before marriage, but there is no right or wrong way to do these things, just what works for you.

[liandra]

It was live. Christine deBell was Alice. There were 2 versions X and R and you could see where the scenes were added for the X.

Alice works in a library and after closing one night she gets a little sleepy and starts dreaming that she saw the white rabbit. She takes the drugs to make her small and follows the rabbit (a person in a rabbit suit).

She has a Tea Party with the Mad Hatter who has a number (8 1/2 I think) on his hat. She asks if that is his hat size and he says No.

Humpty Dumpty can't get his dingaling up and needs help from some very sweet nurses. They dance around him stripping and then fellating him. Pretty soon it is up.

Alice goes to a brook and is sitting by the side when she hears a voice urging her to enjoy herself. She begins a masturbation scene that was one of my favorites. She gets dried off by the forest creatures licking her dry all over.

Alice encounters Jack and Jill and they end up having a very good time together in (at that time) one of the best sex scenes I had seen. Jill with very nicely shaped, firm breasts and a shaved pussy was astride Jack facing away from him. She rocked back and forth and then leaned back to expose his shaft splitting her pussy lips. Remember this was 30 years ago!

More later if you want. :)I think I'll have to get my sticky fingers on that one, see it for myself, I'll just have to make sure it doesn't get mixed up with my daughter's version.:eek:

[liandra]

If I may inject some pedantry here. In the book the figure is 10/6 meaning the price of the hat (in that particular style) of ten shillings and 6 pence. (Six pence = half a shilling). This was in the days of £.s.d before europhile fifth columnists persuaded our leaders to convert the British currency to decimal.

Full marks by the way to Da Spud for having the balls to reveal his fantasy. He’s lucky – he might realise his dreams one day. My fantasy will never happen. I often fantasise having one clear hour of uninterrupted peace and quiet in my study where I can read my newspaper.
Pedants are always welcome here.

Well with a wife such as yours, I am not surprised you've no need for sexual fantasy.

[liandra]

Only 36 hours since you asked this and the thread has already veered off in several different directions! I guess that's the way it goes.

Anyway, I think I'd like to dress her as the sacrificial victim - ankle-length white robe (light material but not sheer), bare feet and hands tied in front of her.
She would remain absolutely still and expressionless for 20-30 min. while I touched groped fondled her everywhere, both through and under the robe. Then I'd bend her over, lift the robe to her waist and give her a few purificatory strokes of the whip before ritually 'deflowering' her.

Oh, I have to say where and why as well? Ideally a field in West Cork at dawn. And why? Because I'm a pervert, obviously!
That one shouldn't be too hard to fulfill, all you require is a two return tickets to southern ireland, plenty of fields around there just pick one, a cheap cotton night gown from marks and sparks, some rope, and of course a willing victim.

[liandra]

Ok, I've got another question for you all.

Have you ever fantasized about Abby? and if so, what do you imagine she looks like?

[artlover]

If by fantasized you mean wondering what she looks like, yes. Any other fantasies, no. I imagine her, for some reason, as being slender and blonde. I have no idea why. And no way of finding out. Actually, it's nice having her be mysterious. :D

My sexual fantasies rarely involve costumes and role-playing. Altho it would be fun to be like Captain Kirk, flying around the galaxy and getting laid by women from different planets with short skirts and high breasts. <3

[liandra]

Actually, it's nice having her be mysterious. :D

Luckily for you I'm sure that's how will indefinitely remain





My sexual fantasies rarely involve costumes and role-playing. Altho it would be fun to be like Captain Kirk, flying around the galaxy and getting laid by women from different planets with short skirts and high breasts. <3
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[BigSpud]

I think I'll have to get my sticky fingers on that one, see it for myself, I'll just have to make sure it doesn't get mixed up with my daughter's version.:eek:Most definitely. Although the fingers might not get really sticky until the scene where the queen's handmaidens are dismissed and Alice is ordered to eat the queen. Then the scene switchs to what the handmaidens are doing in their free time. Hmmmm. I might just have to find it again myself. :o

[Philos]

Have you ever fantasized about Abby? and if so, what do you imagine she looks like?
At the supermarket I once encountered a couple of ladies of ample bosom and muscular build, wearing T-shirts that bore the slogan, "Dykes with Attitude". I don't think Abby is anything like that. I really don't. ;)

[BigSpud]

Most definitely. Although the fingers might not get really sticky until the scene where the queen's handmaidens are dismissed and Alice is ordered to eat the queen. Then the scene switchs to what the handmaidens are doing in their free time. Hmmmm. I might just have to find it again myself. :oWell, I found it among some old tapes. I was wrong about a couple of things.

1) The handmaidens were "preparing" Alice for the queens visit. Very nice scenery there. It is my understanding that several playmates were among the cast and based on what I see, it could well be true. (Remember these would be early 70s playmates before silly-cone.

2) It was not Jack and Jill, but Tweedledum and Tweedledee that were doing the cavorting that Alice was invited to watch. Every bit as nice as I remembered.

If only it were available on DVD. I did a search sometime ago and couldn't believe that this was not available, but couldn't find it.

[Arrowhead]

Have you ever fantasized about Abby? and if so, what do you imagine she looks like?
I know this will sound totally silly, but I have always imagined her to look like the American actress Maura Tierney. For no other reason than she plays a character called Abby in 'ER'.

Daft or what? :o

[artlover]

Let's compare...

For the newer folks, one of the pairs of snowshoes belongs to Abby...:D

I had no idea Maura was that hot... <3

[arsby]

This is probably the stupidest association of a face to Abby that you have ever heard, but for the first couple of years I thought Abby might look a little like Sigourney Weaver because she was tough and she was Australian.
I since found out that Sigourney Weaver has nothing to do with Australia; she's American, her mother is British.

Any attempt I have since made to associate Abby's face with Olivia Newton-John's has failed miserably. Then I found out that she's not Australian either.

Maybe she looks like Kate Blanchett or Nicole Kidman. That would be nice.

[Arrowhead]

Ohhhhhhhhh, Cate Blanchett..............I get goosepimples even at the mere mention of her name. A truly great actress as well.

Liandra - you've obviously met Abby in person a few times, as a bit of fun who do you think should play her role in the forthcoming blockbuster "AbbyWinters - The Movie''? And don't you dare say either Maura Tierney or Sigourney Weaver...........

[dagger28256]

Heh, Liandra, you always have such an interesting discussion going on in your thread!

Hmm... I've never really though much about Abby, but from the impression, I imagine her as short (maybe 5'?) with an oval face. Brown hair... and I don't really think I've pictured much else. In my mind, she's always behind the camera, so I don't really know.

As for sexual fantasies, I haven't had a one. Well, maybe a voyeristic one of having her photograph me having sex and posting it, but that was just a fleeting idea, and mainly because I love the way she does her photographs.

I'll have to agree with the others though, that I think it's good that she's hidden. It adds allure and mystique to the site.

Although, I must say, those are some sexxy snow covered feet (and I think she is the one in the middle, if I remember the discussion correctly).

dg

[casgrain]

Just taking a guest, but I could easily see her looking like McKenzie, or Carmen, or Jacki.;)

[JerryOR]

Ok, I've got another question for you all.

Have you ever fantasized about Abby? and if so, what do you imagine she looks like?

Nope..... i imagine abby is rather...abby She is good at her job and probably very efficient but to imagine abby is difficult and therefore to fantasize is not possible. One day Abby will bless us with a pic of herself and then may the fantasies begin. Until then I keep imagining Liandra as my secratary in her short skirt and attitude

=)

Jerry

[beanazoid]

Ok, I've got another question for you all.

Have you ever fantasized about Abby? and if so, what do you imagine she looks like?
Liandra, What an interesting question that is. No, I never wondered what Abby looks like. Probably because my naughty mind is busy thinking thoughts like "will Abby post a new Liandra set soon?";)

If you're a member of AW.com for any time, I do think we get a good sense what a fine person Abby is. That's enough for me.

[liandra]

At the supermarket I once encountered a couple of ladies of ample bosom and muscular build, wearing T-shirts that bore the slogan, "Dykes with Attitude". I don't think Abby is anything like that. I really don't. ;)
I've no idea what Abby wears to the super market, but she deffinitely doesn't wear that T- shirt when she does the shoots, it would scare away all the
delicate little snowflakes me thinks

[liandra]

Liandra - you've obviously met Abby in person a few times, as a bit of fun who do you think should play her role in the forthcoming blockbuster "AbbyWinters - The Movie''? And don't you dare say either Maura Tierney or Sigourney Weaver...........
I have someone in mind, but If I do that then I'll be robbing you all of the tantalizing enigma that is Abby.

[liandra]

those are some sexxy snow covered feet (and I think she is the one in the middle, if I remember the discussion correctly).

dg
You are right, and yes she is the one in the middle.


sexxy snow covered feet Can I ask do you have a shoe fetish, or a foot fetish, or a precipitation fetish?

[liandra]

Just taking a guest, but I could easily see her looking like McKenzie, or Carmen, or Jacki.;)
Are you suggesting that Abby may already be on the site, under an alias?

[liandra]

Nope..... i imagine abby is rather...abby She is good at her job and probably very efficient but to imagine abby is difficult and therefore to fantasize is not possible. One day Abby will bless us with a pic of herself and then may the fantasies begin. Until then I keep imagining Liandra as my secratary in her short skirt and attitude

=)

Jerry
Have you seen the movie, The Secretary it is one of my favourites.

[Mrs Roops]

A virgin eh? I admire you sexual restraint, I honestly think it's better to have sexual experience before marriage, but there is no right or wrong way to do these things, just what works for you.I agree. Dagger is going to have some tough choices to make. There is a lot to be said for “trial runs”, though I’m a firm believer that good sex is more to do with compatibility and communication rather than sexual prowess and a filthy imagination (though the last bit helps!!!!). Having said that there are times when I wish I was a virgin when I met my husband and that he was the only man I have slept with. It’s not something I dwell on or get depressed about, as I can’t change the past. I would also add that not many young men would admit to being a virgin. I’m impressed!!!!!

[artlover]

I once ran across a statement that celibacy not a gift that is given to everyone. I find that statement a sensible alternative to insisting that everyone follow the same moral code. I too am impressed when anyone admits they are a virgin, even in an pseudonymous medium, because there is a lot of peer and media pressure for people to have sex simply for sake of "losing it". But if sexual liberation means anything, no one should ever feel pressured to follow the majority.

[BigSpud]

Have you seen the movie, The Secretary it is one of my favourites.
I wasn't real crazy abou it and I don't remember specifically why now except that I am not big on humiliation in any format.

[arsby]

I too am impressed when anyone admits they are a virgin

Reminds me of when my sister was around 10 years old, and my brother asked her if she was a virgin.
She replied, "Not yet." :)

[liandra]

I think the day where people can talk with pride about their sexual conduct, however unusual (between consenting adults), or their choice not to enage in sexual acts at all, with out censure, is long over due . It is impressive to hear a young man say that he is choosing to refrain from sharing himself sexually untill he finds that special someone to share the rest of his life with. It is not virginity that is impressive but his pride in his choice of how to conduct his sexual affairs, it emanates self respect and belief in spite of general trends to the contrary, which is always impressive. I don't think celibacy should be lauded over any other sexual choice, I don't even think religious celibacy is something of any profound import, anymore than ritual sexual acts of worship, but its funny how differently the two choices are perceived.

[liandra]

Reminds me of when my sister was around 10 years old, and my brother asked her if she was a virgin.
She replied, "Not yet." :)
A friend told me a story like that. He used to play this silly game when he was quite young where you would go up to someone and say "are you a virgin, not, not?" and the person had to figure out the answer that the group would accept as the right one. However my friend can't remember now if it was good to be a virgin or not.

[liandra]

Good things come in threes, as do bad things, so here is my third question for you all.

ooops! it's actually my fourth isn't it? Well I never did know when to stop. Just to be germane

When did you loose your virginity? How was it and who was it with? ( I feel like I'm playing truth or dare now:p )

P.S. Sorry Dagger I know you can't really participate in this one, but so you're not excluded you could tell us where, how and who you would like it to happen with.

[liandra]

I was just browsing through the members home page when I saw this posted on 1st August
of course Liandra (http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=3716) was here with her gossip too. Am I being paranoid, or does anyone else detect a hint of denigration in the way this is expressed? Ah it's probably me, besides everyone loves a bit of juicey gossip; however, forgive me for being a pedant and quibbling over semantics, I just didn't realise I had supplied gossip, that is going by the definition of gossip being unproven reports about other people.

[alleyes1]

No, you're not supplying gossip. You're encouraging us members to create gossip about ourselves!!!! (Not an easy feat!!!) :D

Well, I lost my virginity my freshman year in college. Her name was Jeanette and she was a telephone operator. I knew only the bare mechanics of sex, was very nervous, and she treated me like I was an expert. :) When she was sitting on top of me, with me looking up, and removed those C cup breasts from her bra, I thought I was in heaven!:)

I've always been greatfull to her for going easy on a "newby". ( I really think she really did like me though.) <3

Alleyes

[dagger28256]

Well, as mentioned, I can't answer the original question, but I'll answer the ones directed for me.

First and foremost, my virginity is gone on my wedding night. Not sooner, not after, but that night. What I want to do, is get married in winter, up in the mountains (or at least honeymoon there) and cuddle up in bed for a very fun first night of marriage.

As for who, well, of course my wife. Which could (hopefully) be the girl I'm with now (Gosh I love her), or if things turn sour (knock on wood), then who ever I do get with eventually.

dg

[Philos]

First and foremost, my virginity is gone on my wedding night. Not sooner, not after, but that night.
Here's a tip, dg, from personal experience of wedding nights: make sure it's not the "wrong time of the month" on that night, or your plans may not be fulfilled. It sounds funny, but it has happened. :o

[Mrs Roops]

When did you loose your virginity? How was it and who was it with? I was sixteen, he was nineteen though he made out that he had sex before in a previous relationship. It was in his bedroom on a Saturday afternoon in the village of Treorchy, in the Rhondda Valley, South Wales. His parents were out doing the weekly supermarket shop. We had been “going out” together for about a month. Up to then the most we had done was to feel each other under the clothes.

Despite the fact that there was no one else in the house to disturb us we were nervous enough not to strip off completely. It was a case of knickers and tights off and skirt up. He had his trousers and y-fronts around his ankles. The first attempt failed because he ejaculated as I rolled the condom on his penis. He was mortified and went beetroot red. I was bemused rather than frustrated. It was the first time I saw sperm and I emptied the contents of the condom into my hand and so feel the texture of the liquid. It was not long before he became hard again but this time he rolled on a condom himself. I lay down on his bed and he put it in. There was no pain as my hymen had already broken through sporting activities. He came again after only ten humps so I was a little disappointed but not disillusioned, as I knew the potential of sex from my own masturbatory activities.

We continued the relationship for about another 5 months. The sex got better and boyfriend overcame his premature ejaculation problem. He was a nice lad but we were both becoming bored and we agreed to split. He met and married a girl from Merthyr Tydfil three or four years later.

[mursilsis]

One more thing dagger; an erotic content site may be a lousy place to give this advice, but here goes: don't make it the end-all and be- all of your existance.

[artlover]

A charming story, Mrs. R. Gosh, if he knew of your fame in certain corners of the 'Net... :)

[Mrs Roops]

Thank you Artlover. I did wonder whether to spill the beans and if so as to how much detail to put in. I took the view that it was unlikely he would come across this thread or the others and in any case I don’t think he his going to pop-up and say “Hey I’m the first to bone Mrs Roops!!!! In my naiveté I let him take a couple of polaroids of me, spread beaver and all. I would have defiantly heard about it if he had shown the photos to his mates. For all I know they are lying somewhere in a shoebox of secrets.

BTW, isn’t anyone else going to tell us about one of the most momentous /embarrassing/defining moments of their lives?

[artlover]

Well, he could not have known you would become the personage that is Mrs. Roops... for his sake I hope that shoebox remains sealed.

My first time wasn't all that momentous. She was a friend in my party crowd (used to do a lot of that) who had a thing for me, something I was unaware of. It was very late at night and we were both pretty wasted. She and I ended up on my bed. I thought, what the hell, give her a kiss, and to my surprise she responded immediately. I had never seen a naked woman before and was surprised that when she was on her back her breasts squooshed out to the side (she was quite busty), I had the opposite problem from your BF--didn't come at all. I was 20, and embarrassed to be that old without losing my cherry. I have always had problems ejaculating with condoms. We would hook up over the next 15 years from time to time when we were both in dry spells. I did come to love her, but not in a romantic way. We were really better off being pals. At least I was with someone I knew and liked. Maybe I am underestimating its niceness, as I am becoming excited recalling it. :D

However, the first time with my most recent lover was quite wonderful and more than I could have asked for. Alas, it didn't work out. :(

I suspect a lot of men don't share their first times because it wasn't like in the Penthouse Forum. I rather envy the first two humans to make love, because they had no expectations at all. Bet they were noisy tho, and frightened the other animals. :D



First and foremost, my virginity is gone on my wedding night.
I haven't had a wedding night yet, but I have a hunch that a lot of people don't wait till nightfall. I am sure that more than one newlywed couple, after they have removed the tin cans from their bumper, pulled off somewhere for a quickie. Of course, some folks over here arrange these long and exhausting wedding days, which doesn't help.

[liandra]

No, you're not supplying gossip. You're encouraging us members to create gossip about ourselves!!!! (Not an easy feat!!!) :D

Well, I lost my virginity my freshman year in college. Her name was Jeanette and she was a telephone operator. I knew only the bare mechanics of sex, was very nervous, and she treated me like I was an expert. :) When she was sitting on top of me, with me looking up, and removed those C cup breasts from her bra, I thought I was in heaven!:)

I've always been greatfull to her for going easy on a "newby". ( I really think she really did like me though.) <3

Alleyes
So she was older? That's got to be every guys dream way to loose their virginity hasn't it? It's quite easy to believe "she really did like [you] though", there is something intoxicating about having a man look up at you and think you are paradise on earth. That's the way it should be.

[liandra]

First and foremost, my virginity is gone on my wedding night. Not sooner, not after, but that night. .

dg
Don't put too much pressure on the pair of you to get it done that night... it might make it less enjoyable.

[liandra]

Here's a tip, dg, from personal experience of wedding nights: make sure it's not the "wrong time of the month" on that night, or your plans may not be fulfilled. It sounds funny, but it has happened. :o
Well it need not thwart your plans, even if you don't like messy sex, you can do it in the shower. Of course there is obviously another way round it... but that isn't for everyone and I doubt first timers would be game.;)

[liandra]

I was sixteen, he was nineteen though he made out that he had sex before in a previous relationship. It was in his bedroom on a Saturday afternoon in the village of Treorchy, in the Rhondda Valley, South Wales. His parents were out doing the weekly supermarket shop. We had been “going out” together for about a month. Up to then the most we had done was to feel each other under the clothes.

Despite the fact that there was no one else in the house to disturb us we were nervous enough not to strip off completely. It was a case of knickers and tights off and skirt up. He had his trousers and y-fronts around his ankles. The first attempt failed because he ejaculated as I rolled the condom on his penis. He was mortified and went beetroot red. I was bemused rather than frustrated. It was the first time I saw sperm and I emptied the contents of the condom into my hand and so feel the texture of the liquid. It was not long before he became hard again but this time he rolled on a condom himself. I lay down on his bed and he put it in. There was no pain as my hymen had already broken through sporting activities. He came again after only ten humps so I was a little disappointed but not disillusioned, as I knew the potential of sex from my own masturbatory activities.

We continued the relationship for about another 5 months. The sex got better and boyfriend overcame his premature ejaculation problem. He was a nice lad but we were both becoming bored and we agreed to split. He met and married a girl from Merthyr Tydfil three or four years later.
Did you really feel no pain at all, or do you mean no blood with your hymen. It really hurt me.

[liandra]

Ok, in answer to my own question...

I was a little confused for many years how to answer this question acurately. I was 15 years old and my boyf was sixteen, we had birthdays on exactly the same day, so he was exactly one year older than me. We had done heavy petting and oral sex up untill that point, we decided to do it and we were in my attic, because there were people in the house and we didn't want to get caught, we were smoking grass as well. Well we got ourselves going but then when he put it in I felt like I was tearing! So I told him to stop, there was blood on his dick from my hymen but that was it. We just cuddled and kissed after that, he was very concerned to see if I was ok. We broke up for about a year, and in the meantime I had a boyfriend who was 25 (:rolleyes: ) and he was much less concerned for my well being, he told me I was frigid then basically bullied me into it one night in the back of his car. It was terrible and all I can remember thinking is when will he finish so I can get out of here. It didn't last long, and he dumped me the next day to go out with my best friend, who I refused to speak to for about a month because of it. He screwed her over too (she was an intact virgin) and after that we found out he was actually engaged to a girl his own age. So we told her what he had been up to. I lived in a little village at the time and everyone was talking about it. So he moved away. I got back together with the first boyf about six months later and we were at it like rabbits.

[liandra]

Here's a little update on what's been happening in the world of Liandra. There is a group of AW/ ISM girls that got together last weekend for dinner, all thanks to the great minds at ISM, the lovely Verity and a friend did the videography. You know them on this site as Chloe (who did the duet with Rosana and her ISM name is Strawberry), Cle (that's her name on ISM, I don't know her AW name, I'm not sure if it's the same over here), Abrielle (ISM name is mademoiselle), Valery (ISM name is Aurorya) and me (ISM name Liandra_dahl). We had loads of fun, and all got very horny, but I found out most of the models haven't been on this site to see their own work. Chloe was very keen to get a sign on and have a look, and I think she will soon be chatting on the forum as well. Which I am greatly anticipating because she's an intelligent and very sexy person to have a chat with. Anyway, we've all been emailing each other over the past week and we're going out this saturday for a huge girlie night, and it's Abrielle's birthday too!

Uni is going well, I've got an essay to write so I should really stop chatting on here and go and do it, but I am just not in the mood.

[Vid Dude]

Cle is the legendary Paula (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=389) on abbywinters.

[Mrs Roops]

he told me I was frigid then basically bullied me into it one night Yes, unfortunately we have all been there to varying degrees. Fortunately that only happened to me once and like Liandra, it happened to me when I was young. Very unpleasant and very frightening.

Did you really feel no pain at all, or do you mean no blood with your hymen. It really hurt me.There was no pain when I lost my virginity, just a little uncomfortable. My hymen broke a year earlier when I was cross county training (something I still do now). I miscalculated badly when I leapt across a ditch and landed awkwardly and fell. I felt a slight sharp “snap” in my crack but again nothing too painful, in fact my knee hurt more. There was some blood, fortunately I was wearing navy shorts and was caked in mud from the running so nothing showed.

[arsby]

Are you kidding me?

There was a party with Chloe, Abrielle, Paula, Valerie and you and it was videotaped??!!

[Peter552]

...but then when he put it in I felt like I was tearing! So I told him to stop...

Hey Liandra, your first time was as short as mine.

I was quite old. My first time was with a nurse in London. She was a strange mixture of aggressive and inhibited. She made all the moves and at the same time she said things like 'I don't like men'. We were in bed together several times but she kept her knickers on, saying 'only boobs for you, mate'. She happily handled my prick but when she found pre-cum she went 'yuck'.

Anyway, one night she got into bed one night wearing a nightie but I soon discovered she'd taken off the panties. So I got to touch her between the legs and that was nice. Then, without warning, she straddled me and slid me into her. It was the most incredible sensation I had ever experienced - far more pleasurable than I had imagined. But she mistook my excitement for orgasm and immediately pulled me out of her and flopped down on the bed saying 'did it come out? Is it still in there? Oh my God I'm pregnant!'

We did it a few more times, but with condoms and it wasn't the same. And neither of us was broken-hearted when I came back to Ireland a few weeks later.

[liandra]

Yes, unfortunately we have all been there to varying degrees. Fortunately that only happened to me once and like Liandra, it happened to me when I was young. Very unpleasant and very frightening.
It wasn't so much frightening as unpleasant and disillusioning.



There was no pain when I lost my virginity, just a little uncomfortable. My hymen broke a year earlier when I was cross county training (something I still do now). I miscalculated badly when I leapt across a ditch and landed awkwardly and fell. I felt a slight sharp “snap” in my crack but again nothing too painful, in fact my knee hurt more. There was some blood, fortunately I was wearing navy shorts and was caked in mud from the running so nothing showed.
The idea of you in navy running shorts and cacked in mud is kind of hot. You should do a reinactment and post it into AW. I can think of a few members who'd be more than happy to see it...

[liandra]

Are you kidding me?

There was a party with Chloe, Abrielle, Paula, Valerie and you and it was videotaped??!!
No kidding, it was a pretty special night. Though in my affection/sex starved state I am falling in love with people will nilly, so being put in a room with those very hot, very beautiful, very intelligent ladies was a recipe for a multi-crush! Only surpased maybe by the crush I am harbouring for Verity, and of course my lecturer at uni.

[liandra]

Hey Liandra, your first time was as short as mine.

I was quite old. My first time was with a nurse in London. She was a strange mixture of aggressive and inhibited. She made all the moves and at the same time she said things like 'I don't like men'. We were in bed together several times but she kept her knickers on, saying 'only boobs for you, mate'. She happily handled my prick but when she found pre-cum she went 'yuck'.

Anyway, one night she got into bed one night wearing a nightie but I soon discovered she'd taken off the panties. So I got to touch her between the legs and that was nice. Then, without warning, she straddled me and slid me into her. It was the most incredible sensation I had ever experienced - far more pleasurable than I had imagined. But she mistook my excitement for orgasm and immediately pulled me out of her and flopped down on the bed saying 'did it come out? Is it still in there? Oh my God I'm pregnant!'

We did it a few more times, but with condoms and it wasn't the same. And neither of us was broken-hearted when I came back to Ireland a few weeks later.
Sounds like she was a rather conflicted soul.

hey Peter, thanks for recommending me for the T3 with Paula, in her thread. It was much appreciated. Actually I have been asked to do a T3 GG shoot, something for the Intimate Moments in a week or two but it isn't with her, though Verity assures me I have been paired up with one of the hottest, most intelligent woman she has clapped eyes on in ages, which is making me very nervous and concerned with notions of inadequacy, whilst also being pretty darn excited. Oh the anticipation is killing me!

[liandra]

hey,

well here's a little update on the things that have been going on. I've always wanted to be a writer, ever since I was about 8 years old, it's the only reason I am at univeristy at this later than usual stage in my life. I decided I needed more than just life experience if I was ever going to be successful. Anyway, I've entered a writing competition where I could win $10,000 towards furthering my career as an artist plus 12 months mentorship from an accomplished writer. So wish me luck.

So what's been going on with you guys? Is it time for another question...hmmm...

What do you guys think about Chloe B, Valery, Abrielle, Paula and I all doing a shoot together? Wouldn't it be great!

[artlover]

At the risk of sounding obtuse, Liandra, you are already a writer. Judging from the colorful stories I have read from you and your elegant philosophical explanations, I would say you have considerable skill. And since I work as a writing tutor, you can take that as an expert opinion. You have something to say, and that's the most important thing a writer needs. I think it would be great if you got that prize, but if not, take a creative writing course and if you and your professor get along, work with him or her.

[Peter552]

Verity assures me I have been paired up with one of the hottest, most intelligent woman she has clapped eyes on in ages, which is making me very nervous and concerned with notions of inadequacy, whilst also being pretty darn excited. Oh the anticipation is killing me!
...and now the anticipation is killing the rest of us as well ;)



What do you guys think about Chloe B, Valery, Abrielle, Paula and I all doing a shoot together? Wouldn't it be great!
Just a shoot of you having dinner, fully clothed, chatting about sex and masturbation and stuff, sounds pretty great to me! What site were you doing it for? Or was it just for yourselves?



I've entered a writing competition where I could win $10,000 towards furthering my career as an artist plus 12 months mentorship from an accomplished writer. So wish me luck.

Is this fiction, or academic stuff?
Either way, good luck!

[paula]

Oh yes, I think we should all do a shoot together!!!!!

Do you agree that perhaps abby needs more multi-model shoots? And even though a model may or may not be popular, I think that the more shoots of a girl the better, as long as you make each shoot new and exciting, different poses, themes, locations etc..... I just think that you get more personal with the model the more you have to look at of her.....

Wow, good luck withyour g-g!!!!! Pity I missed out on being paired with you :( perhaps we could do a "second" one together, or "practise" beforehand, lol :P

And double wowsers, good luck with the writing competition, will keep my fingers crossed for you, and my toes crossed for me that I finish all my essays that are due all at the same time, which makes it crazy to deal with if you are a procrastinator like me and leave things to the last minute.....

Take care

luv P xxxxx

[Philos]

Gosh, a multi-g/g at the T3 level would be an immensely satisfying treat for all of us perves interested members. With sizzling-hot girls like Paula and Liandra involved it would probably rate more than 3 on the T scale.

Come on girls (and Abby) - show those peasants at SappphicErotica how it should be done! (And I'm all for you practising beforehand, so that you can put on a smoothly orgasmic performance when it matters.)

Paula has reminded me that I too have an essay to finish. Stop seducing me from my work you naughty girls!

[paula]

Oh I know..... it's 1.46am here, and I have most of my material here before me ready to type up, I have my monty python laying on dvd next to me, even tho I have headphones on with my playlist on shuffle, and gosh darn it, I have forgotten which referencing system I am meant to be using here..... It gets so confusing, I am doing english, philosophy and anthropology subjects, however I am used to referencing linguistics and history style, and for all I know it's all the same thing, but I have a great way of getting myself all in a tizzle and really really really getting anxious about nothing, and then I just have a good old laugh about it :P

Yup, I think me, Liandra and Chloe B should definately be in a g-g together, and add an extra model so that noone gets left out with nothing to do..... so who could complete the 4-some then huh? I for one am quite partial to the lovely Emelia!!!!!

even if it wasnt a tier 3 g-g, I guarantee you a shoot with me Chloe B and Liandra would be hot and full of hijinx and mischief, which is WHAT I'M TALKIN BOUT!!!!! lol

luv P xxxxx

p.s. please tell me off severely if I come back on and post again, I must do essay..... need coffee..... and then oh dear, this is going to be an all nighter I can tell, no uni for Paula tommorrow..... naughty!!!!!

[paula]

Oh one tip for late night essay writers like me...... I find the little dog that pops out of his kennel on microsoft word very comforting. I don't "talk" to him as such, but he keeps me company lol..... yup going nuts for sure ;)

[Darth Dave]

Yup, I think me, Liandra and Chloe B should definately be in a g-g together, and add an extra model so that noone gets left out with nothing to do..... so who could complete the 4-some then huh?Add VERITY! She needs a break from filming.

Dave

[artlover]

I can see it now. Philos proudly sends in his essay, only to have the tutor comment on this passage:

From the foregoing premises, one can reasonably conclude that watching Liandra and Paula drive each other wild would constitute a phenomenological statement of ripe, round, juicy proportions.:D:D

[Peter552]

p.s. please tell me off severely if I come back on and post again

You came back on 7 minutes later and posted again! Consider yourself told off!! :p

[Philos]

I am used to referencing linguistics and history style, and for all I know it's all the same thing,
If in doubt, stick to the Harvard (http://www.tvu.ac.uk/lrs/guides/harvard.html)system. You won't be far out.

[paula]

Aw thanks so much for the tip on referencing!!!!! I had to wake my boyfriend up to show me how to superscript numbers, the poor honey, he was naked (so cute) and disorientated and so sleepy..... I mean it is 5am..... but hell I havent even been to bed yet, so running the energy stores low.... perhaps some ice cream will recharge me?

Teehee thanks for the telling off peter ;) I have finally finished it, so now you can pat me on the back :D

Goodnight everybody, I'm off to bed for a grand 2 hours sleep :( oh dear, and then I have to drive a 3 year old that I look after to kinder, I don't think I'll be safe ont he roads today.... lol but when am I ever I suppose hehe

Goodnight everybody, or goodmorning to everybody

Love P xxxxx

p.s. a big hi to liandra, cos I almost forgot that I was posting in her post xxx

[liandra]

At the risk of sounding obtuse, Liandra, you are already a writer. Judging from the colorful stories I have read from you and your elegant philosophical explanations, I would say you have considerable skill. And since I work as a writing tutor, you can take that as an expert opinion. You have something to say, and that's the most important thing a writer needs. I think it would be great if you got that prize, but if not, take a creative writing course and if you and your professor get along, work with him or her.
hey Thanks, that sort of encourgaement means alot to me. I entered last year and didn't win, so I am not holding out a huge amount of hope for my prospects, but you can't give up if I ever want to get published I'll need to get used to getting rejected and not being disheartened.

[liandra]

Just a shoot of you having dinner, fully clothed, chatting about sex and masturbation and stuff, sounds pretty great to me! What site were you doing it for? Or was it just for yourselves?
It was a great night, but I think if we did it again I would try very hard to maneuver the girls into a situation where they would remove their clothes at the end! :o



Is this fiction, or academic stuff?
Either way, good luck!
It's poetry and short stories, and thank you.:D

[liandra]

Oh yes, I think we should all do a shoot together!!!!!
Glad you agree, now lets convince the other three.


Do you agree that perhaps abby needs more multi-model shoots? And even though a model may or may not be popular, I think that the more shoots of a girl the better, as long as you make each shoot new and exciting, different poses, themes, locations etc..... I just think that you get more personal with the model the more you have to look at of her.....
I totally concur with everything stated above


Wow, good luck withyour g-g!!!!! Pity I missed out on being paired with you :( perhaps we could do a "second" one together, or "practise" beforehand, lol :P
I know I just noticed that's you on the main page with Candace (I think that's right) so I missed out! Darn it, if we hassel them enough and incite the members on the forum into a frenzie for it maybe they will feel pressured to pair us up in the not too distant future. In the meantime practising sounds good.;)


And double wowsers, good luck with the writing competition, will keep my fingers crossed for you, and my toes crossed for me that I finish all my essays that are due all at the same time, which makes it crazy to deal with if you are a procrastinator like me and leave things to the last minute.....

I should know about the writing competition in about six weeks! So I'll but it to the back of my mind and focus on doing my essays, which I too spend much time avoiding by chatting on this forum and the ISM one (it's good to see you're over there too now).

[liandra]

Gosh, a multi-g/g at the T3 level would be an immensely satisfying treat for all of us perves interested members. With sizzling-hot girls like Paula and Liandra involved it would probably rate more than 3 on the T scale.

Come on girls (and Abby) - show those peasants at SappphicErotica how it should be done! (And I'm all for you practising beforehand, so that you can put on a smoothly orgasmic performance when it matters.)

The girls are more than willing, it's the AW team that need to be persuaded now.

[liandra]

Add VERITY! She needs a break from filming.

Dave
Is Verity still appearing in shoots now she's on the staff?

[liandra]

I have finally finished it, so now you can pat me on the back :D
Well done, hope you get the HD you deserve.



p.s. a big hi to liandra, cos I almost forgot that I was posting in her post xxx
Yer, whats the deal with hijacking my thread! Na, it's all good, you're most welcome to come chat in here anytime, in fact you've set a precedent now, I'll expecting to have at least one post from you everytime you come on AW for a chat.

[calliope]

It's poetry and short stories, and thank you.:D

Perhaps you might post one of your poems here.?I'm always interested.

[artlover]

incite the members on the forum into a frenzie for it
Won't take much effort. ;)

[liandra]

Perhaps you might post one of your poems here.?I'm always interested.OK, I'm going to post a poem I wrote, that I think is germane to AW. But if anyone laughs or makes criticisms that are unhelpful and mean spirited I will cry and cry and cry untill Noah will have come down and build that god damn ark again.

The scansion is badly off in this, I wrote it the other day, and I have as yet not grown to hate it and scrap it, as usually happens. I know clasical references are just not the done thing anymore, but... oh now I am too nervous....you'll hate it but be way too polite to tell me. I can't post any of my other stuff, it's too personal and a bit too ferocious.

[liandra]

Perhaps you might post one of your poems here.?I'm always interested.Oh shit, here goes... be gentle with it, but any guidance, constructive criticism is most welcome. If it's terrible tell me but as nice as possible:(

Dione’s daughter, yet born of the sea
The new or the older
The profound or the vulgar
Divided yet united
Inside of my soul
Come give me speech
Let my longings be told

To burn with her gifts
Licentious, lascivious, sexy, sordid
Scintillating tantalising
visceral desire
Consensual, physical, reciprocal love
Tangible caresses, nothing taboo
Let no act of love
Be unknown to us two

Not merely enough to suck fuck and grind
My soul desires intercourse of body and mind
To explore one another with imperialist vigour
But no scars of oppression be left on our figure
To love with abandon and sweet comprehension
Balancing my loves held taut with tension

Sometimes I wish
To climb into your head
To be you to know you
To understand you the better
Exploring your perceptions
As though they were mine
As we transiently unite our bodies
Also share coitus of mind

Dione’s daughter, yet born of the sea
The new or the older
The profound and the vulgar
Divided yet united
Inside of my soul
Come bring to fruition
Make appetites bold

[liandra]

Won't take much effort. ;)
Ok then, give us a taste of artlover in a frenzy?

[liandra]

I can't believe I posted that poem. I am going to run away now and hide under my duvet and pillows!

[Philos]

Phew, I'd like to be the person who inspired that! Did you have your wicked way with her? Can you stand a bit of constructive crticism? Here goes. The "imperialist" image is striking, but I think the poem could do with one or two more such images. It's a bit literal at the moment, perhaps. Just my opinion, and I'm certainly not an expert. (Ducks behind sofa...)

[artlover]

Ok then, give us a taste of artlover in a frenzy?
When I am in the sort of frenzy you describe, I am generally at a loss for words. I produce pretty much the same exclamations as everyone else, tho louder than many.:D However, I once broke into a chorus of the Who's carnal masterpiece, "Squeeze Box". :D

I have written love poetry, but it would be inappropriate to share it with anyone but the women who inspired it.

But in the spirit of adventure... a generic invitation to frenzy...

If you have the leisure
To give up your treasure
I promise you pleasure
Measure for measure.

Always throw in some Shakespeare when propositioning a lady, methinks..

[liandra]

Phew, I'd like to be the person who inspired that! Did you have your wicked way with her? Can you stand a bit of constructive crticism? Here goes. The "imperialist" image is striking, but I think the poem could do with one or two more such images. It's a bit literal at the moment, perhaps. Just my opinion, and I'm certainly not an expert. (Ducks behind sofa...)
Hey Thanks Philos, that's very helpful. I'll give it a try and get back to you.:D

[calliope]

OK, I'm going to post a poem I wrote, that I think is germane to AW.

The scansion is badly off in this, I wrote it the other day, and I have as yet not grown to hate it and scrap it, as usually happens. I know clasical references are just not the done thing anymore,....

Agreed,it's very germane to AW,at least to me anyway,because the shoots that I usually find the most engaging,are the ones that convey some wider expression of femaleness,or the feminine,but obviously in a personal way,via the particular model,which,of course,is what artists have long tried to do.

The use of mythical figures as expressions of psychological archetypes always appeals to me because it's just as relevant today,as it was two and half thousand years ago,regardless of the currently done thing.I think the delightful Olivia E put it very well in her recent video,pretty much stuff main stream trends,fashions,etc.,just do what you're comfortable with,which again is AW.

I like the imagery,especially of the central couplets,and the contrast in form,and the whole thing gives a sense of emergence and parts held in tension.

I'm no expert,I just enjoy reading the stuff,and having a stab when something touches me.I can never resist fiddling and altering when I'm not happy with something,so consequently I rarely discard anything,I just leave it and go back to it,a bit like the painters who take years to finish a painting.:rolleyes:You're probably far too passionate for that,but I would urge you to resist any future inclination to scrap it.

[sweatyfox]

I like it Liandra. The kind of poem that has enough colourful imagery in it to let me form my own picture of what it is about, the meaning, the inspiration behind it and the message/point (if there is one!). And yet not so obtuse and unfocused that I can't get into it/identify with it in any way.

Its great to just read it for myself first and let my imagination and thinking process flow. However equally interesting later would be to compare my interpretation with what inspired you to write it, what it means to you and what you intended to convey (if anything) in writing it.

SF

[sweatyfox]

PS on a more literal note Liandra, we will hopefully keep up the pressure for you and Paula to one day be paired together on the site. With two such beautiful girls and perhaps 2 of the most enthralling posters on the boards in recent times, I can't believe the result of a Paula/Liandra g/g would be anything less than supremely erotic, as well as a lot of fun!

In the meantime Liandra, I shall hope your forthcoming g/g shoot is fulfilling for you and that lovely Paula gets paired up soon too. Don't want anyone missing out.

Thanks to the both of you, I'd say the message boards are pretty vibrant right now.

SF

[liandra]

Agreed,it's very germane to AW,at least to me anyway,because the shoots that I usually find the most engaging,are the ones that convey some wider expression of femaleness,or the feminine,but obviously in a personal way,via the particular model,which,of course,is what artists have long tried to do.

The use of mythical figures as expressions of psychological archetypes always appeals to me because it's just as relevant today,as it was two and half thousand years ago,regardless of the currently done thing.I think the delightful Olivia E put it very well in her recent video,pretty much stuff main stream trends,fashions,etc.,just do what you're comfortable with,which again is AW.

I like the imagery,especially of the central couplets,and the contrast in form,and the whole thing gives a sense of emergence and parts held in tension.

I'm no expert,I just enjoy reading the stuff,and having a stab when something touches me.I can never resist fiddling and altering when I'm not happy with something,so consequently I rarely discard anything,I just leave it and go back to it,a bit like the painters who take years to finish a painting.:rolleyes:You're probably far too passionate for that,but I would urge you to resist any future inclination to scrap it.
Hey Calliope, Thanks for the comments :D , I'm glad you liked. So what would you change if it were a poem you were returning to. Got any advice?

[liandra]

I like it Liandra. The kind of poem that has enough colourful imagery in it to let me form my own picture of what it is about, the meaning, the inspiration behind it and the message/point (if there is one!). And yet not so obtuse and unfocused that I can't get into it/identify with it in any way.

Its great to just read it for myself first and let my imagination and thinking process flow. However equally interesting later would be to compare my interpretation with what inspired you to write it, what it means to you and what you intended to convey (if anything) in writing it.

SF
The duality of the creation/ birth myth of Aphrodite is really the major inspiration for it. Hesiod's theogony has an ancient goddess Aphrodite born as the result of kronus' catsrated testicle being thrown into the sea foam, and so Aphrodite is born a fully mature woman as she stepped ashore on the Island of Cyprus. Then there is another creation myth where she is a much younger goddess, born from the adulterous coupling of Zeus and Dione, this is the one found in Homer. The classical greeks identified with two Aphrodites, an ancient one whose sphere of influence was the profound love of philio (that women were of course incapable of), and the younger aphrodite, whose sphere was the more vulgar physical love. Of course in practice for the Classical Greeks, as with most everyone, these two loves overlapped. Generally I don't think my two loves are in harmony with each other, so I can connect to the idea of the division. Obviously this poem is about a 'someone' who I think they could be, if I felt adequate, and she weren't deeply involved with a significant other, and totally out of my league. (No it's not Mrs Roops, though she is lovely)

[liandra]

PS on a more literal note Liandra, we will hopefully keep up the pressure for you and Paula to one day be paired together on the site. With two such beautiful girls and perhaps 2 of the most enthralling posters on the boards in recent times, I can't believe the result of a Paula/Liandra g/g would be anything less than supremely erotic, as well as a lot of fun!

In the meantime Liandra, I shall hope your forthcoming g/g shoot is fulfilling for you and that lovely Paula gets paired up soon too. Don't want anyone missing out.

Thanks to the both of you, I'd say the message boards are pretty vibrant right now.

SF
Yeah, isn't Paula fantastic, her thread has a genuinely conversational tone, she's really playfull, yet sincere and candid, not to mention intelligent. It's good to have someone like her around.

[Philos]

The trouble with having these intelligent and/or sexy women posting is that I feel compelled to follow the discussions, which cuts into my time for viewing the naked ladies. As for getting any work done - forget it!

[artlover]

Thanks to the both of you, I'd say the message boards are pretty vibrant right now.
And tumescent. :)

[liandra]

And tumescent. :)
I can't think what you're refering to, unless of course you mean the boards are becoming swollen by our sheer verbosity...

[liandra]

The trouble with having these intelligent and/or sexy women posting is that I feel compelled to follow the discussions, which cuts into my time for viewing the naked ladies. As for getting any work done - forget it!
Ah, I see your predicament, but life is all about difficult choices, or bad ones, in my case:rolleyes:

[liandra]

The trouble with having these intelligent and/or sexy women posting is that I feel compelled to follow the discussions, which cuts into my time for viewing the naked ladies. As for getting any work done - forget it!hey Philos, I've changed my avatar, so when you do pop in her to check up on the discussion, you're still getting a bit of nudie action. Aren't I resourceful? :D

[liandra]

Well, that picture is a little misleading, it's one of those pictures that is you, but it doesn't really look like you. It'll do for the minute. Well I'm bored, I should probably go to bed. I have to prepare a debate on Jack the Ripper and Victorian legal reforms,and attitudes regarding prostitution from 1880 onwards. I've been having dreams about men who want to stab me and cut me up [Liandra shudders] it's just so unpleasant. Actually I was having them before I started studying Jack the Ripper, but I don't want to think what that's all about...

So anyway, I feel like this discussion needs some life breathed into it. So let me pluck a topic from the air that might sustain your interests...hmmm....what do you guys think about body modification? No that won't cut it, if you're here on an all natural site I can predict the answer to that being a resounding "don't do it". Ever since I stopped breast feeding my daughter I've wanted a boob lift. I don't want anything put in, I just want them up a bit, where they used to be. I luuuurve tattoos, I'm going to get more and soon (cover up work on old ones I don't like actually), but that will probably end my oppotunities with AW, so I'm not going to do it till I have got a GG T3 under my belt.

So I need to get some sleep, perhaps I'll start a bedtime story, and you guys can add to it, if the fancy takes you.

Once upon a time Liandra was walking through a lingerie department when she saw a gorgeous bra and knicker set she just had to try on, on walking into the changing rooms she discovered that Paula and ChloeB were there doing some serious bra shopping....

perhaps my dreams will be more enjoyable now, I'll try and hold that image in my head [Liandra repeats the names paula and chloeb over and over, eyes squeezed tightly shut] damn it jack keeps bursting in!

[Philos]

Hi Liandra. Whenever I see the title of this thread, "Liandra pops in", I think, "Liandra pops out". My mind (?) works like that. Then I wonder in what context that would make sense. Strangely, I think your new avatar provides the answer. Well, quite a lot seems to have popped out. :) Lovely!

As for body-mods: they are often taken to ridiculous lengths. Interference with the natural shape of a woman (or a poodle, or a Ferrari) often makes matters worse, but I don't see anything wrong with a little discreet repair work. Just my opinion.

If you become a tattooed lady, you won't be banished from AW. We won't let it happen. But you may find yourself in "Deviations", a garden of refined depravity frequented by raffish characters such as Susie. I think you will like it there.

What do we want? Perky boobs for Liandra! When do we want them? Now!

[calliope]

Hey Calliope, Thanks for the comments :D , I'm glad you liked. So what would you change if it were a poem you were returning to. Got any advice?

Other than scansion,that you'd already identified,I can't really help.You're the only person who knows what you want to say,and how you want to say it.

Just in general terms though,with a very wide application,the old adage of look at what appeals to you,see how it's been done,and then forget all about it,so it doesn't influence you.

[Peter552]

Sometimes I wish
To climb into your head
To be you to know you
To understand you the better
Exploring your perceptions
As though they were mine
As we transiently unite our bodies
Also share coitus of mind

Wow! All I can say is, thank you for helping us to climb into your head for a moment!

I entered a couple of writing competitions in the past, but all I ever won was a Scottish pound note. :p

And forget about lifts. Breasts were designed to hang, and yours hang most deliciously!

[artlover]

Once upon a time Liandra was walking through a lingerie department when she saw a gorgeous bra and knicker set she just had to try on, on walking into the changing rooms she discovered that Paula and ChloeB were there doing some serious bra shopping....
"What ho, sister Abby babes," cooed Liandra, "the other changing rooms are taken. May I join you?"

"Of course," chorused Paula and ChloeB, whose combined bust measurements achieved statistical significance. Liandra could barely squeeze past their magnificent mammaries' magnitude. With admirable willpower, however, the three girls were able to resume their fitting and squeezing and girly things. All was going swimmingly, until a knock was heard at the door. Liandra cracked open the door, and there stood their bosom friend Rosanna, clutching a bra and knickers.

"Room for one more, girls?" she asked.

to be continued by... ??

[liandra]

Hi Liandra. Whenever I see the title of this thread, "Liandra pops in", I think, "Liandra pops out". My mind (?) works like that. Then I wonder in what context that would make sense. Strangely, I think your new avatar provides the answer. Well, quite a lot seems to have popped out. :) Lovely!

As for body-mods: they are often taken to ridiculous lengths. Interference with the natural shape of a woman (or a poodle, or a Ferrari) often makes matters worse, but I don't see anything wrong with a little discreet repair work. Just my opinion.

If you become a tattooed lady, you won't be banished from AW. We won't let it happen. But you may find yourself in "Deviations", a garden of refined depravity frequented by raffish characters such as Susie. I think you will like it there.

What do we want? Perky boobs for Liandra! When do we want them? Now!
I've changed my avatar again. I get bored of looking at the same one, and I felt a bit wierd when I saw my boob popping out in threads other than this one, and where all the other models avatars have them clothed.

Yeah, perky boobs! because I'm worth it.... or whatever it is we say to ourselves to justify spending vast quantities of time and money and anxiety on appearance.
Actually I was told by a friend today I should just do more upper body excercises and they might actually lift well enough that way. So i'll stop being lazy and looking for easy options and get to work. Operation uplift is now being implimented. The new tattoo is definetly going ahead though.

I might just go have a peek in deviations, sounds like fun.

[liandra]

Just in general terms though,with a very wide application,the old adage of look at what appeals to you,see how it's been done,and then forget all about it,so it doesn't influence you.
He he

[liandra]

Wow! All I can say is, thank you for helping us to climb into your head for a moment!

I entered a couple of writing competitions in the past, but all I ever won was a Scottish pound note. :p

And forget about lifts. Breasts were designed to hang, and yours hang most deliciously!
Well I promised you all a sliver or two from my cranium in my intro, so no one can say I'm not as good as my word.

That's one scottish pound more than I've ever won for writing. Unless you count winning a holiday for saying in under 25 words why wine is the most important thing in my life. You feel like posting your prize winning piece?

[liandra]

"What ho, sister Abby babes," cooed Liandra, "the other changing rooms are taken. May I join you?"

"Of course," chorused Paula and ChloeB, whose combined bust measurements achieved statistical significance. Liandra could barely squeeze past their magnificent mammaries' magnitude. With admirable willpower, however, the three girls were able to resume their fitting and squeezing and girly things. All was going swimmingly, until a knock was heard at the door. Liandra cracked open the door, and there stood their bosom friend Rosanna, clutching a bra and knickers.

"Room for one more, girls?" she asked.

to be continued by... ??
With six titanic titties squashed in, the strain on the changing room had surpassed factory testing for capacity and liandra was only saved from a glorious death by buxom bossom asphyxiation by the collapse of the entire structure....

[alexbee]

With six titanic titties squashed in, the strain on the changing room had surpassed factory testing for capacity and liandra was only saved from a glorious death by buxom bossom asphyxiation by the collapse of the entire structure....

When the Rescue Squad arrived, there were muttered comments like: "Phew!", "Cor Blimey!", "Will you look at that!", and one resounding "Now THAT'S what I'm talking 'bout!!!".

Squad members began elbowing each other out of the way to be the first on the scene, and with little regard for their own safety, dashed into the wreckage to begin the arduous task of extracting all the titties, er...persons in danger.


Next??? :D

[mrpinkeyes]

Dear Abby and team...

HINT..... HINT.....

http://media.abbywinters.com/content/Chloe_B/chloe_bsml.jpg (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=598) http://media.abbywinters.com/content/Liandra/liandraportrait-thumb.jpg (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=851) http://media.abbywinters.com/content/Paula/paulasml.jpg (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=389)

HINT..... HINT.....

[Roops]

....Squad members began elbowing each other out of the way to be the first on the scene, and with little regard for their own safety, dashed into the wreckage to begin the arduous task of extracting all the titties, er...persons in danger.


Next??? :D
Liandra surveyed the scene around her. Piles of collapsed plasterboard lay in pieces. In the middle stood the four topless girls surrounded by rescue workers. In the haze of gypsum dust Liandra heard ChloeB wail, "This is sooooo embarrassing!"
"Yes, you’re right". Liandra replied, her voice barley a mumble.
"I mean it’s not as if this is the first time, in fact this happens every time", moaned ChloeB.
"What?" exclaimed Liandra. She looked across to Paula who in turn stared back, biting her lower lip and nodding slowly. Liandra was now nervous. What had she got her self into? The idea of squeezing into a confined space with two naked and large bosomed friends seemed like a good wheeze, but now she was implicated with a pair of serial changing-room vandals. "What do you mean this happens every time?" she snapped. ChloeB turned to her and said, "Look at this, I can’t fit into this bra, it’s far too small. It happens every time I go shopping for a bra, never a large enough size. It’s getting embarrassing!" Liandra breathed a sigh of relief and cursed herself for jumping to wrong conclusions. I’ll never do that again, she thought to herself.

Just then a rescue worker came up to the four topless girls and stared at them intently. "Hmmm" he said "that what happens when you don’t have proper support" The four girls suddenly felt exposed and instinctively crossed their arm across their chests. A red mist descended across Liandra angered by the insensitive remark of the man.
"You bastard!" she shouted. She quickly raised her knee into his groin. The man fell to knees.
"Christ! He exclaimed whilst clutching his prize plums that were now pulsating with pain. "What was that for?"
" We nearly came to harm and all you could do was comment on our tits - bloody typical male!
The man recovered enough and barely in a strained whispered replied, "Listen lady, I don’t know what you’re on about, I was just remarking that there was no proper support above the door frame because the lintel was too thin which is why the ceiling came down when one of the walls was nudged……"

Liandra’s red-faced anger was now red-faced with embarrassment. She wished she was elsewhere and remembered happier times when she and the girls were enjoyng……?

[casgrain]

Hey Mr.Roops, did it ever occured to you that you could write books. This is pretty good I might add.:)

[sweatyfox]

I think Mr Pinkeyes has chosen 3 excellent sample pics to illustrate how delightful it would be to see these 3 spellbinding ladies brought together in a nice intimate and passionate GGT3. One of the wonderful things about it is the contrast between them. Keep lobbying for this to happen Liandra, we're with you!

I find g/g sets between 2 girls who look too similar, eg 2 'barbie blondes' to be boring and Abby and co always seem to be able to pair up young women who are different in physique, character etc and yet work together. I suspect years of research and practice has gone into this. But the AW.com will not share their chemical formula with any other site! That's why any Sapphic shoot here is a cut above, chemistry!

Anyway Liandra, how did the dream finish in your wonderful imaginative mind, or was it one of those you wake up and can't remember? Only given some of the images your poem conjured up, I can only imagine what places your dreams take you to, especially the erotic ones. Thanks for explaining the background to the poem. I think that was another good sign about your writing, the fact that the poem meant something to me and seemed to have universal themes, despite me not knowing the proper story of Aphrodite.

I'm used to your boobs the way I've seen 'em here and on ISM and I can't see anything wrong with them. Variety is the spice of life, so many wonderful shapes and sizes of breasts out there. The exercise suggestion sounds good but do whatever keeps that lovely smile on your face.

SF

[paula]

thanks everyone for the lobbying..... keep it up, hi liandra!!!!!i think we almost have it yay hehehehehe
love p xxxxx

[Peter552]

That's one scottish pound more than I've ever won for writing. Unless you count winning a holiday for saying in under 25 words why wine is the most important thing in my life. You feel like posting your prize winning piece?Okay, I exaggerated! It was a short story competition to mark RL Stevenson's centenary, and every entrant got a Scottish pound note. I'm fairly sure the piece is currently sealed in a rusting hard drive in Dublin City dump and, believe me, that's where it belongs! My next shortest attempt was 5,000 words, so I think I'll spare you that.

When will the results of your competition be announced?

BTW I thought sex was the most important thing in your life. Don't know how I got that impression! :p
What's your favourite wine? And please don't say Australian!

[liandra]

Dear Abby and team...

HINT..... HINT.....

http://media.abbywinters.com/content/Chloe_B/chloe_bsml.jpg (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=598) http://media.abbywinters.com/content/Liandra/liandraportrait-thumb.jpg (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=851) http://media.abbywinters.com/content/Paula/paulasml.jpg (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=389)

HINT..... HINT.....I think there are some concerns about one girl being left out in a threesome. I reckon it's worth finding out if we can prove an exception to that rule, there's always something to get your lips round and you fingers into...

[liandra]

Liandra surveyed the scene around her. Piles of collapsed plasterboard lay in pieces. ...[snipped for brevity]... She wished she was elsewhere and remembered happier times when she and the girls were enjoyng……?


that was hucking filarious, nice work Roops, though you're uncanny insight into my propensity for jumping to conclusions is just too eerily close to the truth for me to cope with. Do I know you, or is someone leaking you inside information on me?

[liandra]

I think Mr Pinkeyes has chosen 3 excellent sample pics to illustrate how delightful it would be to see these 3 spellbinding ladies brought together in a nice intimate and passionate GGT3. One of the wonderful things about it is the contrast between them. Keep lobbying for this to happen Liandra, we're with you!
I'm glad to see you've taken up the cause, we won't let you down!


Anyway Liandra, how did the dream finish in your wonderful imaginative mind, or was it one of those you wake up and can't remember? Only given some of the images your poem conjured up, I can only imagine what places your dreams take you to, especially the erotic ones.
Sadly I didn't complete the story in my dream, I ended up dreaming about being chaced by a swarm/ flock of bats coming out of a driverless VW beetle. I was saved by an elephant who dumped a great big tree on the car, so all the bats flew away and I started off on another journey with my new found elephant friend.

I have really bizaare dreams, I love having them though, I used to wake up every morning and spill my nocturnal adventures out to my boyf, but he is no longer around, and my daughter just isn't interested, in fact I don't think my boyfriend was much after the first year, perhaps I'll start logging on AW and posting them on here instead.



Thanks for explaining the background to the poem. I think that was another good sign about your writing, the fact that the poem meant something to me and seemed to have universal themes, despite me not knowing the proper story of Aphrodite.

SF
It's not problem, I could talk about mythology from dawn till dusk if I had a willing ear to bend. I'm really glad you feel that the poem meant something to you. I'll work on something for a bit of a gigle about the AW experience. We could turn this into a poetry and short fiction thread, very cultured.:D

[liandra]

Okay, I exaggerated! It was a short story competition to mark RL Stevenson's centenary, and every entrant got a Scottish pound note. I'm fairly sure the piece is currently sealed in a rusting hard drive in Dublin City dump and, believe me, that's where it belongs! My next shortest attempt was 5,000 words, so I think I'll spare you that.

When will the results of your competition be announced?The competition will be announced in about six to eight weeks. I'm not hopeful of winning, because Melbourne has some very talented peeps around, not to mention the rest of Oz. However, some of the runners up get published too, and I would dearly like to be amongst those small few.


BTW I thought sex was the most important thing in your life. Don't know how I got that impression! :p Well I adapted my life's loves so that I could win a holiday to the London food and Wine festival last year, which I did, and got to see all my old school friends and family for the first time in 4 years. You're right though my answer had sex in it, so I incorporated the two and came up with a winning answer.



What's your favourite wine? And please don't say Australian!
I'm no wine connoisseur, since I've won that competition I have been questioned by many people about wine and they seem rather dissappointed at my lack of real knowledge about wines. I'll answer you as best I can though. One of the nicest wines I ever had was a colobard chardonay, and as a rule I don't like chardonay, but this was really delightful. If I'm buying white I tend to go for savignon blanc. with Red I like merlot, or cab sav.

[Peter552]

I'm no wine connoisseur... If I'm buying white I tend to go for savignon blanc. with Red I like merlot, or cab sav.
Then you have perfect taste, as far as I'm concerned.
And there are some very nice Australian wines out there (before I get lynched by the rest of the AW staff :p ).


I think there are some concerns about one girl being left out in a threesome. I reckon it's worth finding out if we can prove an exception to that rule, there's always something to get your lips round and you fingers into...
There was a whole thread (GGT3 Idea) devoted to this recently. This was my humble contibution. I'm imagining you and Paula and Chloe doing that right now as I type... :D

[Roops]

Hey Mr.Roops, did it ever occured to you that you could write books. This is pretty good I might add.:)Thank you. In fact I have written a book. Off and on I spent six years writing it. My sister dealt with the grammar (never been good at that) and gave advice where appropriate. Unfortunately I have a folder of rejection letters to show for my efforts. If I’m honest I know that the book, in it’s current form, will never see the light of day unless I go to a vanity publisher. The “humour” is in appallingly bad taste as is one of the sub-plots.

I do earn some money for a few satirical pieces but the income would barely cover the monthly cost of a couple of porn sites.


that was hucking filarious, nice work Roops, though you're uncanny insight into my propensity for jumping to conclusions is just too eerily close to the truth for me to cope with. Do I know you, or is someone leaking you inside information on me?Again thank you. Do you know me? Well actually yes. You may recall that you had your thighs around my neck and you were screaming “faster, faster”. You see, I was that elephant in your dreams.

[calliope]

I've changed my avatar again. I get bored of looking at the same one,.....

I'm getting a strange compulsion to stare back at you.:D

[Mrs Roops]

Unfortunately I have a folder of rejection letters to show for my efforts.I’ve read the manuscript and I thought it was Brill. Ok, a bit dark and gruesome in places, but still very good!!!!!!

[casgrain]

Thank you. In fact I have written a book. Off and on I spent six years writing it. My sister dealt with the grammar (never been good at that) and gave advice where appropriate. Unfortunately I have a folder of rejection letters to show for my efforts. If I’m honest I know that the book, in it’s current form, will never see the light of day unless I go to a vanity publisher. The “humour” is in appallingly bad taste as is one of the sub-plots.

I do earn some money for a few satirical pieces but the income would barely cover the monthly cost of a couple of porn sites.
I've always loved the humor and knowledge you put in your threads, and that goes for the Mrs too.:)

[Peter552]

I’ve read the manuscript and I thought it was Brill. Ok, a bit dark and gruesome in places, but still very good!!!!!!
OK, leave out the brill bits and give us a taste of the dark and gruesome bits. ;)

[liandra]

There was a whole thread (GGT3 Idea) devoted to this recently. This was my humble contibution. I'm imagining you and Paula and Chloe doing that right now as I type... :D
That's exactly how I saw it happening too.

[liandra]

In fact I have written a book... The “humour” is in appallingly bad taste as is one of the sub-plots.


Go on, give us a sample, from what I've seen so far I think you've got a deliciously evil sense of humour.


Do you know me? Well actually yes. You may recall that you had your thighs around my neck and you were screaming “faster, faster”. You see, I was that elephant in your dreams.
you sick puppy...

[liandra]

I'm getting a strange compulsion to stare back at you.:DWhat a beautiful eye you have calliope

[liandra]

I’ve read the manuscript and I thought it was Brill. Ok, a bit dark and gruesome in places, but still very good!!!!!!
Oh you two should stop teasing and give us all a 'butchers' at some of Roop's dark and gruesome work of fiction

[Peter552]

Oh you two should stop teasing and give us all a 'butchers' at some of Roop's dark and gruesome work of fiction
I've struggled with rhyming slang all my life. What is a 'butchers'?

[Vid Dude]

Butcher's Hook: Look

[paula]

With ryhming slang, did they use it as their everyday speech, or just to be exclusive, so only in certain circumstances, I wonder if anyone ever confused themselves or each other?????

[arsby]

With ryhming slang, did they use it as their everyday speech, or just to be exclusive, so only in certain circumstances, I wonder if anyone ever confused themselves or each other?????

wtf??

[liandra]

With ryhming slang, did they use it as their everyday speech, or just to be exclusive, so only in certain circumstances, I wonder if anyone ever confused themselves or each other?????
Cockney rhyming slang came out of the Eastend of London, they use it and have used it in everyday conversation for blooming ages. That's about as specific as I can get for an estimation on origins and how long it's been in use. I think those in the know rarely get confused, but even if they did once in a while, you'd never get them to admit to it. ;)

[Vid Dude]

Rhyming slang originated so as to confuse those who might overhear it, especially the local constabulary (the police). If half the words in any given sentence are seemingly gibberish, it is easy to be three steps ahead of those who may even be able to guess at what you're saying, and at first there weren't many who could.

Nowadays it's used mostly only for tradition's sake, and in fact I wouldn't be surprised if it is done just to impress the tourists.

[arsby]

Wait a sec... I recall an album by Small Faces called Ogden's Nut Gone Flake. The B side had a nearly incomprehensible story (spoken word) about a boy called Happiness Stan who was looking for the other half of the moon... It sounded Cockney, there definitely was rhyming, and a very interesting rhythm to it, perhaps what you are describing.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

[liandra]

Wait a sec... I recall an album by Small Faces called Ogden's Nut Gone Flake. The B side had a nearly incomprehensible story (spoken word) about a boy called Happiness Stan who was looking for the other half of the moon... It sounded Cockney, there definitely was rhyming, and a very interesting rhythm to it, perhaps what you are describing.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?
I'm afraid I don't

[liandra]

Ok guys, I had a rather odd dream last night that I want to share. Worms, I had worms all over me, I woke myself up trying to fling them off. It was gross. Any takers on an interpretation? After I got back to sleep again I dreamt I had a rocketpack and was flying around London having a tremendous time, much better than worms I can say [shudders]

[paula]

"Ooey Gooey was a worm
A big fat worm was he
He sat upon a railway track
A train he did not see
The train came roaring round the bend
The driver gave a squeal
The guard got out his pocket knife
And scraped him off the wheel
Oooey Gooey!"

"Nobody likes me, everybody hates me
I think I'll go and eat some worms
Big fat juicy ones
Long thin slimey ones
Itsy bitsy
Oooey gooey worms"

Neither original, I can't remember where these came from , I think a book called "alright vegemite"? or "far our brussel sprouts"?
Anyways neither helpful, sorry, lol..... what were you thinking about before you went to bed? Did you eat spaghetti for dinner? Or perhaps they were eating you, like worms eat people in graves, okay getting a little silly, shutup Paula!!!!!

[arsby]

Ok guys, I had a rather odd dream last night that I want to share. Worms, I had worms all over me, I woke myself up trying to fling them off. It was gross. Any takers on an interpretation? After I got back to sleep again I dreamt I had a rocketpack and was flying around London having a tremendous time, much better than worms I can say [shudders]

Dr. Arsby knows precisely what your dream about worms was about.
Have you by any chance had many many sexually inadequate boyfriends just recently?
The rocketpack would seem to suggest a happy ending with a sexually more-than-adequate boyfriend. Blast off!
Dr. Arsby would very much like to provide some intimate one-on-one counselling sessions with you, but I doubt you could afford my rates. :D

[Peter552]

I've struggled with rhyming slang all my life. What is a 'butchers'?

Butcher's Hook: Look
Thanks, Dude!


wtf??
I struggle even worse with acronyms, but I think I've figured this one out. ;)

[Roops]

I've always loved the humor and knowledge you put in your threads, and that goes for the Mrs too.:)Thank you

OK, leave out the brill bits and give us a taste of the dark and gruesome bits.
Go on, give us a sample, from what I've seen so far I think you've got a deliciously evil sense of humour..........Oh you two should stop teasing and give us all a 'butchers' at some of Roop's dark and gruesome work of fiction
The book is about the need to trust others despite constant betrayals. Partly semi-autobiographical and partly fiction the story is about the life of the main character from age six to twenty-six. The "dark and gruesome bits" refers to the homosexual rape and subsequent murder of an 11-year-old boy. I will not reproduce them here or indeed any part of my book, as there is a very small chance that it will be published. I will however enclose a small piece that was deleted quite early on. In this scene a school matron, tired of dealing with colds and twisted ankles reminisces to herself about the days when she did proper "serious" nursing…….


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Humph! And then there was the flip side of course. The ones who deserved no sympathy but instead invited scorn and ridicule. The wasteful, the stupid, the irresponsible, the immature, the feckless, the sickos and pervs. She smiled as she remembered another case from the old days.

The patient was in his mid thirties, medium height, medium build, in fact everything about him was medium. Except the way he wore his coat. His left arm was threaded through the left sleeve but the right side of the coat was draped over the shoulder but both sides were buttoned up normally though the buttons strained a bit around his middle. Nurse Sessler reckoned that the man had a broken arm or had twisted his elbow. Clearly, whatever the problem, it was too painful for him to put his coat on correctly. Nurse Sessler looked down and pretended to be busy.
"Excuse me."
"Yes…how can I help you?" Nurse Sessler looked up.
"Good afternoon." the man said.
"Good afternoon." Nurse Sessler repeated.
"I need a doctor."
"Yes, you do."
"What?"
"Yes you do."
"Do what?"
"You need a doctor, people who come here always do." She smiled sweetly.
"Ah, yes. Of course. Silly me."
Suddenly Nurse Sessler realised that the man was finding it difficult to explain his problem. Perhaps he had done something silly. Whatever, he had "Embarrassed" written all over his face. "So, how can I help you?"
"I need a doctor."
" You need to tell me what the problem is."
"Are you a doctor?"
"No, I’m a triage nurse. I prioritise cases according to medical and patient need."
"I really could do with seeing a doctor."
"You really could do with telling me what the problem is. The way you have your mac draped over your right shoulder suggests you have a problem with your right arm. Am I right?"
"Sort of." The man replied
"Is it in a sling?"
"No, not exactly"
"Pardon?" Nurse Sessler’s interest perked up. This case had an odd air about it. Probably a fractured arm or a torn tendon, routine stuff but she was curious to find the cause of her reluctant patient’s problem.
"Well, you see my arm is tucked into the front of my trousers….."
"I’ll call security" Nurse Sessler retorted. Fuck! A public self-abuser and I didn’t spot it! thought Nurse Sessler. Now she was annoyed. Nurse Sessler prided herself on her ability to spot the potential flasher or the perv who had a lump in his groin which "needed looking into" This one had got past her radar screen. Fuck! Fuck!
"No, you don’t understand. I can’t help it! I need help! I need a doctor!
"You need a psychiatrist!" Nurse Sessler replied, this time in a raised voice.
"Please, listen." The man pleaded "It’s not what you think."
"Go on." Despite her misgivings, the panic in the man’s voice had swayed Nurse Sessler in giving the man a chance.
"Well, it would appear that through circumstances beyond my control, that I inadvertently and accidentally super-glued my penis to my hand." Nurse Sessler said nothing but stared blankly at the man who in turn seemed more confidant now that the secret was out. "This situation would be fine should I wish to be in a state of permanent masturbation, however there are occasions where I would wish to inter-act socially in a non-sexual manner but would find this problematic given that my hand is forced down the front of my trousers."

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I cut that bit out because the narrative was crap but also the reason as to how the patient got into that situation was not credible. The reason would have been disclosed in a later chapter as Nurse Sessler and the patient meet again. It turned out that the patient was a woodwork teacher at the school where Nurse Sessler eventually takes the post of matron.

[artlover]

hehehehe. Roops I sure hope this episode doesn't fall under semi-autobiography (or the molestation for the matter). You have quite a knack for pacing, and it's always a pleasure to see more of your technique of describing ludicrous events with elegant, precise, and polite prose. :D Grace under pressure, indeed...

Is the Mrs. in your book? Surely she is worth several chapters of description alone!:D<3

[Mrs Roops]

Wow, Roops actually left you a snippet!!!! I really didn’t think he would. The old man must be going soft in his old age!!!! (And before anyone quips – No, he’s still hard where it matters!!!!!)

[liandra]

"Well, it would appear that through circumstances beyond my control, that I inadvertently and accidentally super-glued my penis to my hand." Nurse Sessler said nothing but stared blankly at the man who in turn seemed more confidant now that the secret was out. "This situation would be fine should I wish to be in a state of permanent masturbation, however there are occasions where I would wish to inter-act socially in a non-sexual manner but would find this problematic given that my hand is forced down the front of my trousers."

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Thanks Roops for posting that, I definetly feel privileged. I've had some fun with superglue in my time, but it's never involved anyone's penis, especially not my own...

I think something along those lines happens to the Geeky protagonist in one of the American Pie sequels.

I hope you do get published, then we'll get a chance to read the stuff that got left in. keep us informed on any progress in that direction.

[liandra]

...Or perhaps they were eating you, like worms eat people in graves...
Actually I think you might be on to something, but death is supposed to be representative of change and new biginnings in dreams so perhaps the worms were a good thing.


Dr. Arsby knows precisely what your dream about worms was about.
Have you by any chance had many many sexually inadequate boyfriends just recently? ....Dr. Arsby would very much like to provide some intimate one-on-one counselling sessions with you, but I doubt you could afford my rates. :D

[makes the game show sound for a wrong answer]
No, Dr Arsby, your speculation about the dreams relation to my recent life events is incorrect. I think you'll have to bring your rates down. Now what univeristy did you say you got your doctorate from?

[liandra]

Ok, I'm just going to make one more post about my dreams, then I promise I'll stop, because I had a few last night that were really vivid, I'd be interested if anyone has a take on what my subconscious is giving me for nocturnal entertainment.

1st Dream - I dreamt I was having kayaking lessons. We went out into the middle of a large expanse of water. the instructor gave one girl a tonne of inflatable water toys and she floated off into the air, kayak and all. The instructor looked at us and said "that's what will happen if you do that". Then she told us all to get out of our kayaks and tread water while we got all the kayaks into a bunch and made a circle round them. Then we were supposed to swim underneath and figure out which one was ours whilst under water. Once I was swimming underneath I thought I had found mine, but the I couldn't move the kayaks aside, they wouldn't budge, and they seemed now to be covering the whole of the waters surface. I needed to breathe, I was panicking and I could hear the muffled sound of people shouting, then I woke up.

2nd Dream - I was on a train, it went passed my station and I had to pull a break to make it stop. When I got off the people at the station were expecting me to solve a series of murders for them. I started to walk back towards the station I had intended being followed by people questioning what technique I was using and what I was hoping to discover down this path. Then I came I walked off the path at the stationa and down a road to a T-junction. I recalled that a friend of my friend lived near here and I was going to try and remember how to get there. I was a t junction trying to figure out whether to go left or right when I saw a car coming towards us. I turned to the persons following me and told them it was going to crash. As the car came past us we all saw that a dog was clambering all over the driver and obscuring their view of the road. The man swirved across the road and smashed full speed into a palm tree, the dog went flying through the windscreen and lay dead on the ground. The driver's head was lolling out the window and he appeared to be dead as well. I dialed emergency services and then I woke up.

[Roops]

Is the Mrs. in your book? Surely she is worth several chapters of description alone!:D<3
No. The book ends when the main character reaches 26. I was in my thirties when God sent me an Angel disguised as a second year dental student. As for putting Mrs Roops in another book, well let’s say I can’t write sex scenes. Even Tom Clancy is better at writing sex scenes than me. Actually he’s better at writing any scene than me. I believe he’s sold a few copies more than I have in any case.

[Philos]

I can’t write sex scenes.
Almost nobody can write sex scenes, Roops, not even D.H.Lawrence. That's probably why good authors left them out until recently. Our mutual friend Annie can do it, but she writes from her own direct experience. It's a rare gift. It is rumoured that Dick Francis' used to get his wife to write his sex scenes for him, and the same has been said of Jeffrey Archer. Maybe it's one of those (depressingly many) fields where women do better than men.

As for Liandra's dreams, the common theme seems to be danger. Liandra, are you about to take some kind of big risk? If so, please be careful. On the other hand a full bladder can provoke very odd dreams.

[artlover]

Tom Clancy is excellent at technical details and plotting. His sex scenes are pedestrian. His literary skills are adequate for the purpose (as opposed to Stephen King, who is a damn fine writer, period). For God's sake, he has recycled the same character thru half his books. If he didn't have a lot of friends who give him juicy info, I doubt he would be that well known.

Roops, you are being too hard on yourself... which is the hallmark of every writer. :)

I am not a dream analyst, Liandra. Dreams are great for enabling us to ask ourselves interesting and useful questions. When I have had nightmares it has generally signalled unfinished business of some sort. Or it could be you are extremely imaginative. That was helpful, wasn't it? Take good care of Liandra, as my compadre from the West Midlands says...

[sqrt17]

Ok, I'm just going to make one more post about my dreams, then I promise I'll stop, because I had a few last night that were really vivid, I'd be interested if anyone has a take on what my subconscious is giving me for nocturnal entertainment.
I agree with Philos that there's an element of danger (also urgency), and the people around you are not really helpful and add further complications to your goal.
My out-of-the-blue guess is that you have an important decision to make where you fear the outcome might turn out nasty for you but don't really trust others to help you (maybe because they have their own stake in the whole thing or interests that are somehow orthogonal to yours).
If it is something like that, would it help to write a rough description of the problem on a piece of paper, with a tentative analysis of the options and trade-offs involved, let it sink in for a night (sic) and re-read it the next day?

[Peter552]

I was on a train, it went passed my station and I had to pull a brake to make it stop...I walked off the path at the station and down a road to a T-junction.
Whoa, Liandra - major decisions ahead! The T-junction is a dead giveaway!

Funny, I had a train dream as well: I was at the station ready to board but my train wasn't going to get in on time to meet my friends and I didn't have their mobile numbers. I'm going to be telling this to my shrink tomorrow. I'll let you know what she says.

Oh, and don't tell Paula about the dead dog. I don't think she'd like it. ;)

[liandra]

No. The book ends when the main character reaches 26. I was in my thirties when God sent me an Angel disguised as a second year dental student. As for putting Mrs Roops in another book, well let’s say I can’t write sex scenes. Even Tom Clancy is better at writing sex scenes than me. Actually he’s better at writing any scene than me. I believe he’s sold a few copies more than I have in any case.


Almost nobody can write sex scenes, Roops, not even D.H.Lawrence. That's probably why good authors left them out until recently. Our mutual friend Annie can do it, but she writes from her own direct experience. It's a rare gift. It is rumoured that Dick Francis' used to get his wife to write his sex scenes for him, and the same has been said of Jeffrey Archer. Maybe it's one of those (depressingly many) fields where women do better than men

Perhaps Mrs Roops could write her own part in the next book, sex scenes and all.

[liandra]

As for Liandra's dreams, the common theme seems to be danger. Liandra, are you about to take some kind of big risk? If so, please be careful. On the other hand a full bladder can provoke very odd dreams.
Thanks for the tip Philos, I didn't know that, though I had heard about cheese doing the same. I'll make sure I pee before bed tonight:o

[liandra]

Roops, you are being too hard on yourself... which is the hallmark of every writer. :)
I reckon he probably is too. Hey Roops, how about writing a sex scene for the end of my exploding changing cubicle story? Get as dark and gruesome as you like... Call it practice for the fantastic 'Meet Mrs Roops' book that's hibernating inside your brain.


I am not a dream analyst, Liandra. Dreams are great for enabling us to ask ourselves interesting and useful questions. When I have had nightmares it has generally signalled unfinished business of some sort. Or it could be you are extremely imaginative. That was helpful, wasn't it? Take good care of Liandra, as my compadre from the West Midlands says...
I've always got unfinished business, I'm no good at tying up loose ends. I'll work on it though and see if that stops the macabre component to my wierd slumbering inflight entertainment.

[liandra]

I agree with Philos that there's an element of danger (also urgency), and the people around you are not really helpful and add further complications to your goal.
My out-of-the-blue guess is that you have an important decision to make where you fear the outcome might turn out nasty for you but don't really trust others to help you (maybe because they have their own stake in the whole thing or interests that are somehow orthogonal to yours).
If it is something like that, would it help to write a rough description of the problem on a piece of paper, with a tentative analysis of the options and trade-offs involved, let it sink in for a night (sic) and re-read it the next day?
I'll try writing it down tonight, the only difficulty is picking which problem to write down;)

[liandra]

Whoa, Liandra - major decisions ahead! The T-junction is a dead giveaway!

Funny, I had a train dream as well: I was at the station ready to board but my train wasn't going to get in on time to meet my friends and I didn't have their mobile numbers. I'm going to be telling this to my shrink tomorrow. I'll let you know what she says.

Oh, and don't tell Paula about the dead dog. I don't think she'd like it. ;)
I've got my hands on a dream interpreting book, it has masses to say about the significance of trains, what it means to miss a train, to get off a train before your destination, not wanting to be on the train etc etc, however it has nothing about going so fast and realising the train isn't going to stop at your station and having to pull the brake yourself. hmmm... Now that I write it out again, it's starting to make sense to me. It's the dead dog bit that I can't figure out. I'll keep reading my dream book. I'm sure I'll peice the it together.

Ta for the advice, let me know what your shrink says. I've been thinking about getting one of those myself. I've been told it can make things worse though.

[Mrs Roops]

Perhaps Mrs Roops could write her own part in the next book, sex scenes and all.Um, ok here goes

As the morning sun cascaded into the bedroom resplendent with luxury hand made Shaker style bedroom furniture, Mrs Roops the stupendously beautiful world-renowned dentist to the rich and famous stirred. Brushing back her silken hair from her eyes she looked across to her impossibly handsome husband the exceedingly rich entrepreneur R R Roops. She instinctively reached across to his groin.

“Hmmmm, goody, early morning woody!!!” she thought to herself. Kicking back the luxury hand-made duck-down duvet, she roused her naked body and straddled her husband. With her left hand slowly parting her dew-ridden pubic hair, she prized apart her love lips and with her right hand gripping her man’s pulsating gristle she lowered herself onto him whilst guiding his love stick into her warm damp and inviting cunt.

Nah!!! It doesn’t work. Fortunately I’m a better dentist than a writer, so I won’t give up the day job yet!!!!!

[artlover]

You must be one hellaciously fine dentist then, Mrs. Roops. May I book an appointment? :) I am aching and swelling. My teeth hurt, too. ;)

[Peter552]

I'll keep reading my dream book. I'm sure I'll piece it together...let me know what your shrink says. I've been thinking about getting one of those myself. I've been told it can make things worse though.
Therapy has its pluses and minuses, but the most fun part for me is 'doing the dreams'.

It turns out my dream was actually saying "I want my Mammy", because a detail that I forgot to mention to you was that I was considering phoning my mother to she if she could find my friend's home number (but of course the friend was on the far side of the country, waiting for me). My mother is over 25 years dead btw.



It's the dead dog bit that I can't figure out.

My shrink would say: "How did you feel about the dog?". If you were very upset it might mean, for instance, that you were worried about losing some-one. If you were merely looking on, it might mean something completely different.

[artlover]

And as Freud himself once said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... :)

[arsby]

As Groucho himself once said, "but sometimes I take it out". :D

[liandra]

So I did my debate on "who was Jack the Ripper", it was soooooo much fun, and I think we won too! Hurah! We went with the Royal conspiracy theory, there's very little evidence and it's mostly circumstantial but it is the most entertaining theory. What with the clandestine marriage, cover ups covering cover ups covering cover ups and then freemasons, who in their right mind could resist it.

[liandra]

A series of unfortunate events have delayed my T3 GG shoot, so I need you guys to cross everything that can be crossed to ensure nothing else prevents the event from actually happening, coz that'd be a damn shame.

Here's a funny story, my friend is a nurse and she was approached recently whilst leaving the hospital and asked if she would like to make a rather hefty sum of money performing enemas at a brothel, not for the girls but for paying customers. I've never had an enema but I can't imagine it being a very sexy experience...

I'm going underwear shopping tomorrow, any one got any suggestions what would look best on me? I'm going to wear it in my GG shoot next week. (I wonder if I'll run into Paula and ChloeB in the changing rooms?)

[artlover]

Some shade of blue would be nice. That would be my second choice, since the stores are low on Artloverdownunderalls :D

OR Black lacy knickers with naughty sayings. Oooh yeah!<3

[casgrain]

Liandra,
I haven't posted very often in your thread, but I have something negative to say. I know it isn't my choice, and from what I've read in your thread, you're an independant woman, but, you know that little picture that represents you in the corner(I know there's a word for it), I don't think it's appropriate, I'd even say it's spooky and scary. Just seeing an eye reminds me of an optician advertisement. I know it's your choice not to be recognize, but I also think that you're a good looking person and you should represent yourself in a more adequate way. For what it's worth, that is just my opinion.:o

casgrain.

[sqrt17]

As the morning sun cascaded into the bedroom resplendent with luxury hand made Shaker style bedroom furniture, Mrs Roops the stupendously beautiful world-renowned dentist to the rich and famous stirred.
Looks like you might be the next Dan Brown. Don't worry: if the story is truly mindboggling, people will go over any amount of bad writing and sleazy descriptions and will buy the book nonetheless. I wouldn't put the sex scene that early in the book however :)
And beware, people who are described as renowned [profession] on page 1 of a Dan Brown novel most often get killed not long after page 2! Run for your life!

[Peter552]

And as Freud himself once said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... :)
I thought that was Bill Clinton. ;)



We went with the Royal conspiracy theory, there's very little evidence and it's mostly circumstantial but it is the most entertaining theory.

Yeah, there's something funny about that whole family!


A series of unfortunate events have delayed my T3 GG shoot
Is it a T3 or a 2G IM? I'm confused.


Here's a funny story, my friend is a nurse and she was approached recently whilst leaving the hospital and asked if she would like to make a rather hefty sum of money performing enemas at a brothel, not for the girls but for paying customers. I've never had an enema but I can't imagine it being a very sexy experience...
A lot of guys are into that! It certainly wouldn't be me!


I'm going underwear shopping tomorrow, any one got any suggestions what would look best on me? I'm going to wear it in my GG shoot next week.
Have a look at Louise R's shoot today. Okay, it's at least my 3rd post about it, but that bra and pants really does it for me! :)

[sweatyfox]

Hey Liandra,

Really hope your T3 GG goes to plan this time, I am just glad that such a beautiful young woman who exudes sexuality like yourself, will be appearing again on site. Every Abby g/g is just that little bit different, according to the pairing and I will be interested to see your one. Mostly though I just hope you have a fulfilling and enjoyable experience.

As for the 'Jack The Ripper' discussion, very appropriate in these days where conspiracy theories are rife and we sometimes wonder exactly who we can trust. The last time I broached this topic I guess was when I saw "From Hell" with Johnny Depp, which at the end of the day is just another piece of entertainment, though I liked the way it was shot visually. The use of fear by the 'powers that be' as a weapon to manipulate is surely very relevant today.

SF

[artlover]

Yeah, there's something funny about that whole family!
You mean aside from being paid to do nothing more strenuous than cut ribbons?

I should be more charitable. After all, if it weren't for the Windsors, the British tabloid industry would collapse.

Good one about Bill, Peter. I had forgotten that paragraph in our national history.:)

[liandra]

Liandra,
I haven't posted very often in your thread, but I have something negative to say. I know it isn't my choice, and from what I've read in your thread, you're an independant woman, but, you know that little picture that represents you in the corner(I know there's a word for it), I don't think it's appropriate, I'd even say it's spooky and scary. Just seeing an eye reminds me of an optician advertisement. I know it's your choice not to be recognize, but I also think that you're a good looking person and you should represent yourself in a more adequate way. For what it's worth, that is just my opinion.:o

casgrain.
Gosh, I didn't think it was scarey, and it wasn't really about avoiding being recognised. I'll change it, thanks for the tip.

[artlover]

Well it suprised me but I got used to it. I like the new one much better; it represents your dark bumpy nippled feminist self. :)

[casgrain]

Thank you so much Liandra, this is so much better. Now we can all enjoy seing you without having to go to your shoot, although it's not entirely a bad thing.:)

casgrain

[arsby]

... bumpy nippled feminist self...

How many times in one's life does one hear a woman reffered to as a "bumpy nippled feminist"?

Does anyone else hear something vaguely oxymoronic in that phrase?

I wonder if Gloria Steinem has bumpy nipples. :)

[artlover]

Hey, Liandra applied it to herself! Ask her! :)

[liandra]

How many times in one's life does one hear a woman reffered to as a "bumpy nippled feminist"?not very often I'd say, but that's what's so unique about my thread! :D


Does anyone else hear something vaguely oxymoronic in that phrase?I fail to see the oxymoronic qualities in that. Am I not allowed to have large dark "bumpy nipples" if I am a feminist? Or is that I can not be taken seriously as a feminist if I mention that I have bumpy nipples in the same sentence? Some people think it's oxymoronic to say I am a pro-porn feminist, but I claim to be that too, and I don't find anything contradictory in it at all.


I wonder if Gloria Steinem has bumpy nipples. Hmmm....:o


Hey, Liandra applied it to herself! Ask her! I did apply it to myself, in response to the stuff that was being discussed about me in a separate thread that is about the models. I am happy with it as an epithet, anyone got a problem with that and i'll subject you to a slow death by bumpy nipple asphyxiation!:p

[liandra]

Thank you so much Liandra, this is so much better. Now we can all enjoy seing you without having to go to your shoot, although it's not entirely a bad thing.:)

casgrain
Well I didn't want to scare you off, you don't write to me very often as it is...;)

[liandra]

Hey Liandra,

Really hope your T3 GG goes to plan this time, I am just glad that such a beautiful young woman who exudes sexuality like yourself, will be appearing again on site. Every Abby g/g is just that little bit different, according to the pairing and I will be interested to see your one. Mostly though I just hope you have a fulfilling and enjoyable experience.


Boobs! It didnt go to plan at all, it's been postponed again. We just keep running into complications, are your sure you guys were crossing your fingers and using the power of visualisation to will the event into actuality?


Is it a T3 or a 2G IM? I'm confused.
I pretty sure I am doing both:D

[Abby]

It is happenning for fucking sure next week. Promise.

You should hear what Verity has devised for you! Mwahahaha!

a

[towanda]

Well I didn't want to scare you off, you don't write to me very often as it is...;)
Hi Liandra

I have to agree that the new avatar photo is much nicer. Really like the strategically placed hair, and the nice smile. It is an excellent picture of you. Good job Abby (at least I presume Abby took that particular photo).

[casgrain]

Well I didn't want to scare you off, you don't write to me very often as it is...;)
My dear Liandra,

Actually you don't scare me off, just the avatar, and there's a reason for not writing to you more often. First, let me point out that I'm a French speaking person, and even though I've always thought I was bilingual, ever since I joined these forums, never have I seen so many English words for the first time, so much that I need to have a dictionary near by. It seems that English words are not quite the same in all countries(at least not written or used the same way).

But I read your thread all the time, and I find you a very brillant and literary person, witch I'm not. So, by not understanding all that you say, as the others that answers you, confuses me and make me stay out of the conversation. Mind you, sometimes I wish I could, but not being able to find the right words, I rather restrain myself. Now you know.:o

casgrain

[arsby]

...I am happy with it as an epithet, anyone got a problem with that and i'll subject you to a slow death by bumpy nipple asphyxiation!:p
Bumpy nipple asphyxiation! I couldn't think of a better way to go!

(At least you didn't say feminist bumply nipple asphyxiation) :D

[Peter552]

...anyone got a problem with that and i'll subject you to a slow death by bumpy nipple asphyxiation!
Yes, please!!! (Dammit, Arsby got there first! ;) )



...are your sure you guys were crossing your fingers and using the power of visualisation to will the event into actuality?

Actually, my fingers were otherwise engaged. :o


I pretty sure I am doing both:D
I'm pretty sure I'm looking forward to that! :D

[beanazoid]

Liandra, I like the new avatar pic. It is a bit mysterious and teasing but now we can see your smile and that gorgeous head of hair!


...
You should hear what Verity has devised for you! Mwahahaha!
a
Oh Oh, sounds like you should be a little scared!

[drlloyd11]

My only homosexual experience:


We walked farther back into the park and he stopped turned around and grabbed my crotch! I removed his hand and said that was not the kind of experience I was interested in and beat it out of there fast.

Then I realized that we had been talking with different meanings to our words. Everything we said had 2 interpretations! I haven't been back. :)

I suspect this how women feel all the time about most public places.
For me, I recognize gay men behave exactly like straight ones in regard to sex, just with more opportunities.

[liandra]

It is happenning for fucking sure next week. Promise.

You should hear what Verity has devised for you! Mwahahaha!

a
I'll hold you to that promise, come rain, wind, hail, terrorist attack or natural disaster I am expecting this to happen next week.

I love surprises, especially surprises that come from Verity, like her joining in on my solo IM shoot!

[liandra]

Hi Liandra

I have to agree that the new avatar photo is much nicer. Really like the strategically placed hair, and the nice smile. It is an excellent picture of you. Good job Abby (at least I presume Abby took that particular photo).Yeah Abby took it. Considering how awful my haircut was for my shoot she did a fantastic job in this pic of still making me look good, despite my bungled, self inflicted hair cut.

[liandra]

My dear Liandra,

Actually you don't scare me off, just the avatar, and there's a reason for not writing to you more often. First, let me point out that I'm a French speaking person, and even though I've always thought I was bilingual, ever since I joined these forums, never have I seen so many English words for the first time, so much that I need to have a dictionary near by. It seems that English words are not quite the same in all countries(at least not written or used the same way).

But I read your thread all the time, and I find you a very brillant and literary person, witch I'm not. So, by not understanding all that you say, as the others that answers you, confuses me and make me stay out of the conversation. Mind you, sometimes I wish I could, but not being able to find the right words, I rather restrain myself. Now you know.:o

casgrainI can only imagine how you feel, as I am terrible with languages and the only one I can read, speak and write (other than Enlgish) is Ancient Greek, which is very esoteric and I don't get to share it outside of uni very often. I had to abandon reading Evanglaline's thread when it was in French, because my two years of French classes at high school were completely ineffectual and I couldn't understand a word anyone was writing. :(

I'm glad you read the thread and enjoy reading it. Thanks for saying I'm brilliant and literary. WooHOO I don't often hear that, so i'll bask in the warm glow of that compliment for a while. I apreciate you taking the time to explain all that, however I think you should let those inhibitions go and restrain yourself no more. I'm sure you have a beautiful mind, and it's only your view of yourself that you are not brilliant too.

Li

P.S. I'll let you in on a secret, I've had to use a dictionary once or twice whilst chatting in AW discourses, there are some linguists chatting on these boards I'm sure.

[liandra]

So I've popped in with a little update, I've done my first IM shoot this week! A duet and a solo, well what should have been a solo...
It was soo good. I've been on a real high since. I find my self getting turned on again just thinking about it. In fact I'm off to... um...examine my ceiling for cracks... :o

[artlover]

Liandra, it is vitally important to examine your ceiling frequently in order to be cognizant of potential structural problems. I woul urge you, purely as a safety precaution, of course, to examine all your ceilings regularly, multiple ceilings if possible. Then there are possible holes in the roof of your car, friends' ceilings... shoot you can never look at the sky too much. Take careful notes... and we'll see you in about a month. :) :)

[arsby]

...A duet and a solo...

Oh my oh my oh my. I would have loved to be there to pluck your strings. :)

Unlike Artlover, I know what you mean about "examining your ceiling for crack". It worries me, I think you should lay off the drugs and get high naturally.

[towanda]

So I've popped in with a little update, I've done my first IM shoot this week! A duet and a solo, well what should have been a solo...
It was soo good. I've been on a real high since. I find my self getting turned on again just thinking about it. In fact I'm off to... um...examine my ceiling for cracks... :o
What should have been a solo...
Hmmmmmmmm, you really know how to get a guy's imagination going.
:rolleyes:

[artlover]

It worries me, I think you should lay off the drugs and get high naturally.
You mean caffeine, sugar, and MSG aren't natural?? Omigosh!! :)

[Peter552]

You should hear what Verity has devised for you! Mwahahaha!


I've done my first IM shoot this week! A duet and a solo, well what should have been a solo...
By any chance are these two posts related...? ;)

[liandra]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abby
You should hear what Verity has devised for you! Mwahahaha!




Quote:
Originally Posted by liandra
I've done my first IM shoot this week! A duet and a solo, well what should have been a solo...



By any chance are these two posts related...? ;)
In a manner of speaking, but I believe Abby was directly refering to the GGT3 I am doing next week, Verity has something entertaining up her sleeve fot that. However Verity also had a surprise for my IM shoot this week.:D

[liandra]

There's a woman I know, from San Fransisco, and she is polyamorous. The way she describes it sounds like paradise on earth but I find it hard to understand how it would work. She has a primary partner (male) but they both engage in external sexual relationships with other men and women. Initially I thought either partner must at sometime or other be jealous, and surely this must be detrimental to the realtionship as a whole. She is adamant that they are not, because they are sure of each others love, and that the relationship is made stronger by their freedom, as they truly chose to be with one another. So for a while I thought that's that, it works for them and they're very happy. However then I started wondering, what if these extra relationships weren't always happy? What if the people they get involved with fell inlove with one of them? or both of them (as they do share people)?

What do you all think about the notion of polyamory? Do you think it could work? Are any of you living it?

[Abby]

However Verity also had a surprise for my IM shoot this week.:D
She did. And it worked really well - she nailed the exposure and focus! I was so proud. Oh, you meant the content?

Anyway, I am going to get that on the site real soon, cos it's one of the very few recent IM's where the models have already appeared on the site (I generally like to have the regular stills and video on the site before the IM debuts). Hopefully in the next week I'll get it up, so we can see if you done good. And that.

I think we should do another solo stills shoot of you, as well, if you're keen Liandra?

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