YOUR ideas for GG, GGG, GGGG activities?

[Abby]

Hiya

I was writing the text for the backstage section update just now, detailing the first three girls shoot I did (Charlie, Tia, Rhiannon). I was disappointed with the shoot for a few reasons, but the main is that I had no idea what to DO with three models, especially in a fun and non-sexual (sure, they are naked, and there are sexual overtones, but it's not a hot'n'steamy orgy, like, say Susie and Nikki).

Since then, Elvaar, VidDude and I have come up with some good ideas to assist on interaction, either as an idea for a whole shoot, or as a precursor to sex stuff. But, we're always after new ideas. It sounds easy, but when you get right down to the nuts and bolts of it, it's damn hard.

Big ideas are good, but they need to be _workable_, they need to not be TOO _cheesy_, they need to give the models opportunity to interact and speak normally (no rehearsed lines, no impractical topics), need to allow for models who don't know each other at all, are shy, and nervous about what's coming up (ie, sex on camera!) to interact comfortably, they need to get participants (partly, mostly, completely) naked, they need to be set in locations that are realistic regarding technical issues (quiet so we can hear what people are saying, private cos they will be naked, ability to be lit effectively, etc).

Some fantastic and successful ones we have shot recently include skip strip (you can see some pics from that on the boards). This one we were lucky to get three gals come in for an interview. Only one was interested initially, she brought two friends for support. Her friends changed their minds, and Elvaar got to use an idea we had talked about for a long time: Strip-Skip. One gal on each end of the rope, one jumping. Once she messes up, she has to take off an item of clothing, and chose someone else to go "in". Keeps going til they are all naked.

Lotsa room for fun - 18 to 25 year old gals reminiscing about skipping rope back in school, tits and arse to jiggle around, jokes to tell. It's IDEAL really, and it worked very well (apart from some thoroughly annoying technical issues). Not one of the models acknowledged the video cameras (we shot with two) or the crew one single time (very important and hard to achieve). We shot it in a average-sized private surburban backyard, had things like towels and drinks handy.

Another one we shot recently, again Elvaar's idea, was to get five models and play a "spin the bottle" kinda game: there's a host (Danny) with bunch of sex-questions ("why do you fake orgasms?", "what's the shortest length of time you have known someone before having sex with them?" etc). Girls sit in a circle, clothed. Danny spins the bottle, pulls a question, chick has to answer it. Danny decides if the answer is good enough (never is!), and chick has to remove an item of clothing. Last person with any clothing on wins a prize (dildo, duh!), hilarity ensures.

This worked really well for several reasons: we picked models who we knew were good for it (we had already shot them at least once before by themselves), with six girls talking about sex, it's a non-threatening environment, so they feel comfy opening up and saying what they feel - there are some touchingly candid discussions about sex here; they all get naked and laugh a lot.

Both of these ideas are great, and worked very well. Others we have up our sleeves include:

Strip hop-scotch (3 ppl)
Strip table-tennis (2 ppl)
Strip elastics (3 ppl)
Strip ten pin bowling? (lotsa ppl)

Games are useful, cos they add a competitive element, have room for ppl to mock-argue ("you're out!" "no way, that was SO in!"), they have a _reason_ for models to get naked (sure it's a little shaky, but it's better than "gee, it's hot in here."), they have models interacting - not touching, necessarily (tho they can), but talking, laughing, arguing, fooling about.

Now, before you suggest something, think about it - out loud in a post to the boards if you like. Five girls go hiking? er, sure, but come on: What about electricity? A reason to get naked (skinny dipping is ok-ish, but kinda lame)? general public? Toilets? Location? Five girls go dancing/drinking: untold venue hassles, general public issues, decency laws, etc.

So, I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but your idea does have to have SOME realistic aspects. Show us what you've got, and we'll run with the idea, brainstorm a bit, and see what we come up with.

If your idea gets used, you'll get a free copy of the finished product (video or DVD), and a free three month membership to the site. And the eternal respect of your 'board peers.

Whatcha got?

abby

[anonymous]

I would like to repeat an idea that has been mentioned before I think
A bunch of girls in a gym would look very nice I think
Sweat,rippling muscles, heaving chests(breasts) http://www.abbywinters.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif
Sounds great to me

[Abby]

ok, so they do that for 30 seconds, then what? What makes them interact? How and why do they get naked? come on, ya gotta give me more than that!

a

[Vid Dude]

Netball! Netball!

Well, you already know about that one from me already, but I still love it. Actually playing the sport is the first interaction, then the showering at the end is the next.

Still, it's more of a plot than a real strip scenario, I guess...

[sbourne]

I think the spin the bottle idea is goob but would modify it. Make it so that when the bottle is spun, the person it spins to has to draw a card and perform a certain act. It could be removing a piece of clothing, or kissing the girl to the right or massaging the but of the girl on the left, etc. As the game goes on the cards would get more sexual. The first person naked would then be the "winner" and would be laid out naked on the bed and serviced by all the other girls a, la Behind The Grren Door style with Marilyn Chambers.

[arsby]

The door-to-door lingerie saleslady (Danny, looking sharp in a business suit) visits the sorority (Amy, Joy, Lux, Bianca, Nikita, a couple dozen others). At first the girls are lounging around in shorts and T-shirts, not paying much attention, but they get more interested in the lingerie when the saleslady offers to model a couple of pieces. Then the girls break out that great Australian wine and the Fosters and stage an impromptu fashion show -- we see them stripping and dressing in the sheer undies, etc. A couple of them have, ummmm, tendencies, and start helping each other undress. The saleslady discloses that she also has a line of dildos, vibrators, and other toys. A grand time is had by all.

Then the father of one of the girls (me, in a cameo) stumbles in, and the girls lose control of themselves and drive him wild, one after another.

I think that last part is inspired. :o)

[anonymous]

Perhaps you'd be better to make your cameo appearance as a vacuum cleaner salesman Arsby

[arsby]

http://www.abbywinters.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif Amazing what you can do with those vacuum cleaner attachments, huh, Anonymous?

Even when you're by yourself! Bwahahahaha!

[Talking Figleaf]

Oh bother, this afternoon I replied to the preview and here are the same suggestions in more detail. But Abby's right about the "then what?" aspect?

I think variations on strip poker or truth-or-dare is a good idea. These aren't long time lovers, or even long-time friends, and shouldn't have to pretend to be.

Question: why stop when they're all naked, assuming they've checked more boxes on the release forms? For that matter would there be any repercussions from encouraging/daring them to go further into girl-girl experimentation? Abby's mentioned that models often change their mind as they get into it.

And because every person is different, sometimes every time, even simple stripping games aren't as likely to get old. Girls in a gym? Cool 30 second vignette, boring 90 minutes. Girls willing to go how far? I’d come back week after week to find out.

I’m making a couple of assumptions. First that you have models who are into it. Next that you really want to do that many GGG scenes in the first place. Next that you don’t want to do fake scripts. Finally that photographing it wouldn’t either bore you or burn up your budget.

figleaf

[Abby]

Hi, TFL

Good point on them not being long time friends, that is usually the case (tho not in the Sprinkler fun sample pic - they were all pals, whihc is unusual, but made for a great scene).

We have a plan to re-do our five-girl spin the bottle style shoot, and going on further is one of the things we want to explore (perhaps with all the other gals watching?).

Finding willing models is not so hard (once they have worked with us, they are often keen for more work), and yes, we are looking at doing more multi-girl scenes. I definitely don't want to fake scripts (VD does), I think the real appeal is in genuine interaction. The ideas you have offerred, while more framework based than specific, are excellent (and along the lines of what we are already thinking). They are within our budget, and would certainly not bore me.

a

[Dublinjohn]

........Another one we shot recently, again Elvaar's idea, was to get five models and play a "spin the bottle" kinda game: there's a host (Danny) with bunch of sex-questions ("why do you fake orgasms?", "what's the shortest length of time you have known someone before having sex with them?" etc). Girls sit in a circle, clothed. Danny spins the bottle, pulls a question, chick has to answer it. Danny decides if the answer is good enough (never is!), and chick has to remove an item of clothing. Last person with any clothing on wins a prize (dildo, duh!), hilarity ensures.

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Strip hop-scotch (3 ppl)
Strip table-tennis (2 ppl)
Strip elastics (3 ppl)
Strip ten pin bowling? (lotsa ppl)

.......
abby




are any of these still on the site?

[Byeandbye]

Hey !
There's a game whose rules may have to be altered strongly in order to make it "strippish". The English name seems to be Red Light, Green Light. In France we call it 1, 2, 3 SUN ! Can be played from three to unlimited. One girl is the caller, the says the magic sentence 1, 2, 3 SUN the way she wants. There is a starting line and a finishe line. Once started the caller calls 1... 2... 3... SUN and everygirls has to stop still in their present position when SUN is shout! And not move a single inch until the caller let them go 1... etc... again. (OK, you know that game and had to read 5 useless lines, but at least we know what we're talking about :)) Here is the article about the game in Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_light%2C_green_light

What is great about this game, is the fact that the camera could stroll among the still girls while their laughing hard trying to keep still. We could watch naked bodies in funny position 360°, pass to an other girl, ask her how she's doing etc... Have them wait a very long time between each call etc... Having all the girls amused by the unfairness of the situation would be kinda fun I think.
Now how to make it strippish ? Well... if the distance to travel is long enough we wouldn't have to kick the failings girls out, they would stay in the race, but would have to lose a piece clothing and go back two or three steps. As the winner of the round becomes caller for the next one, we could play a certain amount or rounds if the racing location is not long enough to have all the girls end up NAAAKEEED :cool:
(by the way, I think that with many players strip games, the item to be stripped should always be put to vote among the fellow players...)

For the location, well it could be a private garden long enough or a warehouse.

That's for my suggestions ! But this whole game ideas seem sooooo coool !

[Vid Dude]

are any of these still on the site?
No. The one Abby mentions never went up, and won't ever go up, for personal reasons.

And the others never happened.

[stoneyyy]

Get them to play strip cricket or tennis

[hannibal8]

...there are some touchingly candid discussions about sex here; they all get naked and laugh a lot.

Something in the idea of stripping games seems a little contrived, to me, but as long as your quote above is the final criteria, I have total faith in you.

If a hot tub situation is practical, I've always been fond of jacuzzi-ball: Put a small, floating ball in the center of the hot tub, and if it touches you, you have to take a drink, or strip, or what-have-you. Much squealing and splashing and laughing are guaranteed to ensue.

It's a tough question, though, isn't it? Amazing to think that "How do we get all these girls naked and comfy and happy and horny?" is an unsolved problem, still; We males alone have been working on it for millennia, and all we've come up with is margaritas and David Bowie. :)

Worst comes to worst, pick Josephine S's brain about D&D. Fail a saving throw, take off your top? (That's purely a joke, by the way.) Best of luck!

[Jadezzi]

Ok, time for an idea for the whole evening:

Body painting. Girls could be artists for each others bodies, painting wherever on each other.
After the artwork is ready and evaluated (they could score the results).

After painting its time to wash them away (snif!) This could be done with hose(s). Again, they would wash each other.

After this they could all go in a jacuzzi or sauna and have a few drinks and good laughs.

This way, they would be almost or completely naked all the time and have a good time!

All this could be done in a big hotel I bet.

-Jade

[Luxman]

Body painting.
Yeah, body painting is a good idea.
Have a look at Georgia & Leyla (http://abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=155), it could be a re-release of this classic set.
With more complex painings of course.

Lxm

[Randomthoughts]

Concentration Game:
This would have to be done with 4 girls to be successful and make the odds of guessing who is who correctly, a bit more difficult. It is a game and competitive nature may relax the girls who are shy. The difficulty lies in finding 3 girls that are not all together too physically similar, such as having DD cups and an A cup or shaved vs natural with the girls being probed. These would be too easy to distinguish. All girls should have their hair up as well as that would be a give-away.
High Level Idea:
Girls get together and discuss their physical features in order for a game of one girl blindfolded guessing who is being explored. Select a “guesser”, most likely the model who has no inhibitions to touch another girl anywhere. The guesser writes (blindfolded) on the model who she thinks is touching somewhere on her body for later verification. One girl who is guessing throughout the game could be clothed skimpily or naked it is your choice.
Set one:
All girls are in a room clothed, and are given the rules. The first round involves the girls talking about their bodies and what may help the guessing girl pick her out when she is blindfolded. Discussion of her own body such as when my nipples are soft they are barely noticeable as bumps but when hard, they are like pencil erasers etc… noticeable scars, muscular back and arms or she has large lips. Anything that may be taken as a hint to the guesser who will later be blindfolded!
Set two:
The 3 models then undress and the “guesser” gets to see the 3 girl’s nude (un-blindfolded) and the girls repeat their names so the guesser is familiar with what name she will write on the girl. She may smell the models as well as most girls have a distinct aroma if she thinks this will assist her. Long slow pans of the girl’s bodies being studied by the guesser would be sexy! The girls can turn around and show bums or any part of the body they wish to assist the guesser for later ID.
Set three:
The touching and smelling begins by the guesser. The girls cannot talk. She will have to remember the hints and smells as well as their names. When she is confident, she will have to find a spot on the girl’s body to marker in her name as a guess. Timing this for a set may be difficult as some could take longer than others.
Set four: The interview
What did were the girls thinking as a blindfolded contestant was feeling their bodies and did they do a good job of hints etc.

Variation of the theme:
Let the girls do a round robin and give them an assigned colored marker and let them all participate. In the end, they take off their blindfolds and look to see who had their color on the correct models. A prize of a Dildo can be given. In a pile of them on the floor the person with the most points gets to pick first, second place gets second pick, etc..

This should allow for all of Abby’s concerns of lighting and public issues. Besides, this happened to me in a smaller way when I was 18. Camping out with a potential girlfriend on a starless pitch black night and her other girlfriend who was alone in her tent beside us got scared and asked to come in. I fell asleep and both girls apparently went out for a girl pee. When they came in and I awoke as the flashlight shut off and both girls were lying down. I lost my bearings and assumed the girl I was courting, had her feet towards the bottom of my knees and the guest had her feet pointed towards my chest. I shimmied up and started playing with her nipples and I heard her say “I am not Leslie” and she started laughing. Leslie could not understand how I got it wrong and I told her their breasts felt the same in the dark. This lead to them switching around and around and a contest to see if I could guess whose breasts were whose! It didn’t go any further unfortunately, but it was one of my best memories of a game that still sticks in my head!

[Chasaffton]

How about a picnic a number of girls the number could be 4 or more. The place would be by the waterfall, like were you did the waterfall girls. But they would be there for a picnic and then decide to go for a swim. But nobody has thought to bring a bathing suit. Anther some talk about this they or thinking of going skinning dipping. They are daring each other to see who will go first. Well when first one strips down and jumps in the water. They then one by one start to strip and jump in. I was thinking you could also use were they stripping as single shots as well as a group project. They girls could be watching each other take their cloths off. Once in the water the first two could start touching each other at first by accident then on proposes. This leads to some kissing .At, which the first two decide to sneak off and be alone. Then other seeing them sneak to follow them but not letting them know that they are being followed. In a clearing (they being the first two) lay a blank down and start going after each other in a big way (t3) with other two girls watching them. You see them kiss and touching each this starts getting the other two girls to start touching and kissing each other. The first finishing with each other and head back to the lake. On the way back they hear the other off to the side out of view. Sneaking up on them they see the two of them kissing and touching each other (t3). They are watching the two girls and are saying to each other how hot they think each of those two girls are looking. Then they head to the waterfall to wash off. By this they other two girls are heading to same place. There at the waterfall they switch pairs by accident rubbing up against each other. When this new pair of girls thinks that the other pair of girls is not looking at them they sneak off for some t3 fun. By now you know that that other pair is going to watch and end up messing around with each other.
And again when this pair is done they head back to the waterfall and see the other pair hot after each other. When they get back to the waterfall they decide what the heck and split up into the last set of pair for t3 action. Again one get to they’re first and starts while the other is watching them. Then when they are done they watch the other pair with out being seen.
So you have 3 sets of t3 set 1 ab, cd, set 2 ac, bd set 3 ad bc

Hope that you like this idea feel free to change or add as needed

c

[Dublinjohn]

No. The one Abby mentions never went up, and won't ever go up, for personal reasons.

And the others never happened.


fair enough, everyone is allowed to change their mind

assuming the personal reasons were on the model(s) would there be any chance of shooting simple strip game video's? spin the bottle, snap, simple games no need for the truth question element.

[hotdawg]

Hell for me nothing beats the old game of truth or dare.....try and work that into a video....hummmm...will have to think about that....and Ab already did the only other ones i wanted to see, naked twister and naked pool :) ....

hotdawg

[sherekhan]

G’day Abby,

I’m a new member and have to say this site is the best thing to happen to the Internet since somebody decided to take it from the hands of the Department of Defense and use it for something other than building nuclear bombs. The cute-naked-girl-having-fun-and-shooting-the-breeze format should be considered an art form; sincere congrats to the team!

And now to business…

On the one hand I empathize with your dilemma; on the other, I sure wish these were the kinds of issues I had to deal in my job—if that’s not the ultimate male fantasy, I don’t know what is. Anyhoo, any pervert worth a dime should be able to come up with something so let’s see if I can put my money where my foot is. This is what comes to mind (in order of kinkiness ):

Scenario 1: the girls (definitely more than two) are in a slumber party situation. The setting is a bedroom or a living room. They are wearing whatever their idea is of appropriate attire for a kinky slumber party—I have my own ideas, but I’m hardly an authority on the subject. They are playing a sex board game (roll the dice, pick a card, read aloud instructions about what do to the other girl, the other girl submits). Make sure the pairs randomized for each turn. Your job as facilitator is to select a set of cards (i.e., activities) reflecting the degree of kinkiness you are shooting for. The important thing is everyone sitting at the circle has to agree obey the cards. If it were me, I’d mix it up with one-on-one activities and multiple-on-one activities. One possible variation—f you want to kinky it up—is to make your own cards; there are plenty of books (e.g., 100 Sex Tricks) with enough material for your very own saga. Most definitely, the girls would talk afterwards about what they liked and didn’t like. What makes or breaks this scenario is casting and picking the right set of cards—as I’ve mentioned before, I envy you.

Scenario 2: an even number of girls (more than two) are in a spacious, well-equipped kitchen. They are dressed however they would dress to a barbecue and they are there to explore the food & sex fantasy. I’m not sure what the excuse is to get naked—I’ve never found it necessary to get naked when I’ve played table tennis either—but I’d like to see them pick [carefully selected] aprons from a box and be instructed to change into them and model them for the group. With every one semi-naked (or perhaps before), I’d set them up in pairs and have one girl blindfold the other. Then we proceed to a blindfold taste/smell test of things you have previously set up for this purpose (e.g., vanilla extract, honey). Next you move on to the sense of touch. As before, in each couple there is a giver and a receiver, blindfolding is your call—some girls find it exiting guessing what the stimulant is—but the important thing is to provide the girls with plenty of options to play with textures and temperatures, and encourage them to be creative. Use food and kitchen implements; think of the possibilities: a light spanking with wooden spoon or spatula, a full body massage with corn starch—the ice cream thing is not for everybody, but I’d keep some handy just in case. After this, you move on to the bathroom for some sensual washing. The girls take turns washing each other using kitchen related stuff. Use a half-orange as soap; use warm milk as water; etc. Shower it off and bring all the girls back for a group discussion about what they liked and disliked.

Scenario 3: take the format of your Naked Salsa lesson and have an “expert” teach a group of girls how to do a strip-dance. But wait, there’s more!... at the end there’s a quiz: each girl has to give another a lap dance. I’d say the setting here is inconsequential. There are probably very polarized opinions about what the girls should be wearing so I’ll leave that up to you. If you don’t want to bring a ringer in, you already have models who can teach anyone a lesson or two—I vote for Vivienn.

I better stop here before my head explodes.

Kudos on the good work!

Cheers.

[hannibal8]

...I vote for Vivienn.

I second the motion. Wrong forum for this request, I know, but seriously: More Vivienne. Solo? GG? IM? Have a brief phone conversation with her and tell us about it? Anything. She makes me tingle in places I didn't even know I had places.

[terulaen]

Who is Elvaar? They sound like a genius!

The door-to-door lingerie saleslady . . .

Love this idea, although I'm sure the cameo is out :( Sorry, arsby.

[Luxman]

Elvaar worked together with Abby some time ago.
He started the projects ISM & BA.

Lxm

[terulaen]

Well, that would explain the genius thing.

Thanks, Luxman.

[arsby]

Love this idea, although I'm sure the cameo is out :( Sorry, arsby.

When I saw this thread I looked at the start of the thread, but I neglected to look at the dates. Then I see Abby talking about Danny leading a game of spin the bottle and I'm like, Danny!? Danny's back?! I love Danny!

I was also ready to bring up my favorite fantasy, nude girls working out.

Then I read a little further and noticed that was back in 2002 and Danny's long gone. Also, someone had already brought up my gym idea (and had it shot down as being boring! As if any assemblage of naked women, muscles rippling, titties bouncing, can be boring!).

I still like the idea of the door-to-door lingerie salesman (or saleswoman, as the case may be).

[blissed]

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
You could recreate the Hendrix CD cover "are you experienced"
or do a Spencer Tunick type thing.

Ok, I know I'm being greedy but you could let Spencer Tunick inspire you, even say with 5 people.

[arsby]

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
You could recreate the Hendrix CD cover "are you experienced"
or do a Spencer Tunick type thing.

...or the Pink Floyd Back Catalog poster! (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0000W0DVY/ref=dp_primary-product-display_0/103-4044778-8141467?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=284507&s=kitchen)

[doinel]

You could recreate the Hendrix CD cover "are you experienced"
Hey Blissed, if you have the one with the naked chicks in mind, then it is the cover of 'Electric Ladyland'

doinel

[gracie_w]

Hey Abby,

i had an idea inspired by screen printing girls, what about Life Drawing girls? Each model strips off and gets in the middle while the others draw her, and then swap around so that each girl has been drawn in a different position and everyone gets naked. Plus, it's all in the name of art.

And also, hehe, if you do do that, can I be in it? *bats eyelashes* hehe.

[casgrain]

Gracie, I agree, you'd be very good at this, although I don't know about your dexterity in drawing:)

You're such a cutie;)

[gracie_w]

Hehe aww thanks :D I've done it before, once or twice, but not very successfully. I just think it would be a laugh. :D

[casgrain]

They say that practice makes perfect, so the first one may be so and so, but if there's enough of you, it would get better as you go along.:D

[gracie_w]

Exactly! I think that would be the fun part, seeing who got better. Might be a bit daunting for the first model though, seeing as how she'd probably end up with three hands, a massive head and no feet.

[casgrain]

hehe, try to identify the monster of abbyland.:eek:

[Abby]

Also, someone had already brought up my gym idea (and had it shot down as being boring! As if any assemblage of naked women, muscles rippling, titties bouncing, can be boring!).

I suspect you'll be pleased with "pool girls", scheduled shortly.

a

[trebor]

I suspect I will like this shoot too!

[belgianlullo]

Me too !!

B

[terulaen]

Me too !!

Ack!! An AOLer in our midst! Ready the Flash, load the non-clickable links, . . .
:D Sorry, bad geek joke

[arsby]

I suspect you'll be pleased with "pool girls", scheduled shortly.

a
I'm "up" for it, believe me!

How about a young lady instructing other young ladies about how to give oneself a gynecological self-exam. Or, perhaps, methods of self-pleasuring.
"Now everyone point out your clitoris."
"Does it feel better when you rub your finger up and down the opening or side to side?"

[artlover]

Monty Python flashback: "Last week on How To Do It, we showed you how to be a gynecologist..." :)

Hey--can any of the girls do the Silly Walk? :)

[Theleron]

Hiya Abby :)

And hi to everyone here in the forum.

I’ve got some ideas that I would like to share with you. I’m not sure how much details I should give (i.e how much I should write). But some general info about some scenarios that I think would look pretty good.

Scenario 1:
This could perhaps be a GGG shoot, with models who don’t mind watching porn. The setting could be like a wine’n’cheese party at one of the girls’ flat (or pretend it to be). No script as to what to say, just let the conversation flow freely letting them discuss various things. The conversation turns into sex… talking about men, masturbation and girlgirl sex… how they like kissing, snogging, touching etc
Then the girl who lives there (A) get a porn dvd and puts in on… they all watch it and they start touching themselves… they get hotter and clothes comes off… when they are naked and after a bit of touching… another girl ask if A has any toys, and A find all her toys (could be a couple of vibrators and a couple of dildos)… and they use the toys to bring them orgasm.
If A had a double dildo and/or a strap-on, then they could play with them as well. For example A uses the strap-on on B who eats out C… and positions could be switched if wanted.

Scenario 2;
Another GGG shoot. This time the setting could be as the girls come home from being out dancing and having a few drinks. Before going to bed, they all want to shower and they end up in the shower together… washing each other and laughing… the more they touch, the hornier they get and they end up in bed together having sex.
Toys would be great, but fingers and mouths would also be great as that is something AW is supreme on!!(especially the tier 3 stuff!! BEST on the net in my eyes!!!)

Scenario 3:
This could be a multiple G shoot.
Someone mentioned a lingerie sales lady stops by.
What about having one of those girly parties where a sales rep (in this case one of the models!) comes by and show off a bit of lingerie then focuses on sex toys. Some girls want to try before buying, so lots of toys are being tested. Some girls are willing to test while others are happy to watch. The Grand Finale could be when girls test strap-ons and double dildos.

Scenario 4:
This could be a GG or GGG or GGGG shoot.
This could be a potential future shoot… if the Sybian were to arrive at AWHQ. One model acts as the instructor and show the other girls how to ride. Then they each take turns on the sybian and try the various attachments they feel comfortable with

[arsby]

Hi, Theleron. (Do you have a theleron chip in your pee thee? :))

Scenario 1: Seen it in 100 porn flicks.
Scenario 2: Been there, done that.
Scenario 3: My idea! Bring back Danny to be the instructor!
Scenario 4: CDGirls set the bar really high. Let's concentrate on IM's.
Overriding observation relating to all 4 scenarios: Abby and staff (and models) can do it better!

Artlover: You silly bunt!

[Theleron]

Hi Arsby :)

I must admit i like your idea... did you intend to include a speculum? ;)

I do know that CDG feature sybian videos, but im not sure i agree with you on their level. Im 100% sure that watching Abby's girls/models ride will be a lot better than anyone elses! It would be like comparing their GG videos with AW's tier 3 videos... and i don't think i've seen any better than the latter.

[alleyes1]

Scenario 3: My idea! Bring back Danny to be the instructor!

arsby, bringing back Danny for any reason would seal my 12 month subscription!<3<3

Alleyes

[pjay]

I suspect you'll be pleased with "pool girls", scheduled shortly.
Girls playing pool? ;)

Actually, that might work, lots of potential for pictures of bottoms!

Hang on. didn't someone suggest this before?

[67Mike38]

I recall noticing that some of your models practice yoga. A fun GGG activity would be one or more of your yoga enthusiasts conducting a session introducing the other girls to it.

[arsby]

Hi, Mike! Welcome!

YES, some of the girls practice yoga (or did, at least), NO we've never seen it, at least not in a 2-or-more girls type of way.
The problem might be that it would be good for 10 or 15 photos as they try out their positions, but then what? If you've got any ideas, cough 'em up!
I seem to recall that some of the girls did kickboxing! Are any of our kickboxers left?
One model did some kickboxing moves (jiu jitsu? karate?) solo. Anyone remember who it was? I don't.
Maybe there should be a "sports/self-defense/exercise" category. Then maybe we should fill it up! :)

Heh heh, maybe a standard question for the models would be "do you participate in any sports or exercise regimens, and if so, would you consider performing them nude?"

[albertson]

one or two girls masturbating while watching two other girls kissing and making love. perhaps ?

[foppa21]

Where to begin? :eek:

(1) Surely three ladies will bake and decorate a cake eventually (with all the fun stuff involved...) - then have them spread the fun stuff around - including 20 pounds of flour being sent flying all around (against a black backdrop it should look sweet…) And the flour getting on their skin, would look pretty neat with some imagination…

(2) Surely a car (kangaroo! :) ) needs to be washed somewhere? With 'AW crazy shots' (angles) foam and water through a couple of hoses - a lot of fun can be had)....

(3) Surely three fair skinned ladies can (try to) sweep a chimney somewhere? (Sot is a funny thing - it looks lovely on fair skinned ladies...) And interesting on not so fair-skinned ladies...

(4) Surely three ladies can be found that have an opinion about the most outrageous contributions for the "AW Toy Drive"? (Going nuts is a goofy/fun thing, no?)

(5) Surely three ladies can be convinced to try and put up a tent in the wilderness? A shear tent canvas can look pretty cool... and eventually you have all have to wrestle for a good spot to sleep)...

(6) Surely three ladies can paint a room somewhere? (One spill there and a miss there - and there is a lot of accidental body painting that is done...)

(7) Surely three ladies can decorate a Christmas tree? Ornaments can be a lot of fun! They can hang / and enter a lot of places... With the lights of the tree only - a shoot can also be made to look really good)...

(8) Surely two ladies can "forcefully" wrap s third in 12 roles of toilet paper? (Then the suddenly the sprinklers on the lawn come on...) Wet paper is fun - and can be made to look really good...

(9) Surely one lady could accidentally drop a gallon of "monster bubble bath oil" in to a Jacuzzi? (It’s actually a lot of fun if there is a lot of it...)

(a) ...

I'll just stop there and try to go to sleep!

[Randomthoughts]

I like the bubble bath one, foppa. There maybe a problem though as there is no model at A/W named Shirley...:rolleyes::D

RT...

[elelbe405]

One idea I would like to see redone is an updated or higher quality version of Jamie and Suzanna's Toy Play that was shot a couple of years ago. A similar scenario with a few girls involved would be very interesting, at least to me.
Plenty of opportunity for conversation/discussion/comparison. Am not sure how well it would work for girls who don't know each other.
Just a thought...

[trebor]

I know this is cliche but a spin the bottle set with a group of women would be great. Josephine S (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=910) mentioned in a post on the boards she had done a spin the bottle set on another site, this was a really sexy and playful photoset.

I also like the idea of the bowling set you mentioned, not sure if it would work or not but it sounds fun.

[CKFIRE6]

As I read the boards I see where a number of models speak of having sex with a male partner yet there are only 4 couples in the boy/girl category.

Any chance of enticing more on screen sex?

[zootsuit]

One of the greatest things about AW.com is that, by and large, the GG shoots are not staged - there's just 2 girls who want to explore each other and (most of the time) really get into it. What more could you ask for? I would rather not see contrived scenes that have some silly theme. Just let 'em go at it, and don't get in the way (as you already do so well :D )!

Also, I dunno why, but girl three- or more-somes don't do it for me (though I can think of one exception). Maybe its 'cause there seems to be a loss of passion as the models mechanically switch positions and partners. And toys... an immediate turn-off as soon as they appear.

Why not feature a GG redux, or two or three? I would think that the models would be more comfortable with, and would know better how to please each other. I'd also love to hear more stories by the "experienced" girls - Gabrielle, for example - about their past encounters with other girls. Not necessarily the lurid details, but stuff like, "How old were you at your first encounter with another girl?" and "How have you met other girls who you were intimate with?" or "Have you ever seduced another girl, and what was it like?" Models, is this too personal for you to talk about?

Among the ideas already posted, I thought this was a good one:
one or two girls masturbating while watching two other girls kissing and making love. perhaps ?

Finally, thanks Abby for starting this thread. Where else can you express your opinions like this?

[Darth Dave]

One idea I would like to see redone is an updated or higher quality version of Jamie and Suzanna's Toy Play that was shot a couple of years ago. A similar scenario with a few girls involved would be very interesting, at least to me.
Plenty of opportunity for conversation/discussion/comparison. Am not sure how well it would work for girls who don't know each other.That is exactly what I was thinking and an idea that I world love to see. Jamie and Suzanna did an amazing job and it is easily one of my favourite videos on the site but I 2006 version with new toys and a group of models would be excellent.

Dave

[masterfan]

I so enjoy watching every video featuring Katya Y. Not only is she incredibly beautiful and sexy, her playful and open attitude combined with her ultra sexy, sultry voice makes her downright irresistible.

I hope she decides to grace us once again with her charm and sensuality. If she does, I have a suggestion for a shoot for her (It would be nice with other girls as well but you don't ask.. you don't get, right?).

Katya’s IM with Jacki revealed to us, and perhaps even to her, how much she enjoys the visual aspects of mutual masturbation. No sooner had Jacki voiced how beautiful Katya looked touching herself, than Katya seemed to have permission to look openly at Jacki’s masturbation instead of stealing glances and as she began to orgasm, it was apparent how much she wanted or, dare I say, needed to see more. Personally, this added a lot to the eroticism of the moment.

Another thing that made that video especially pleasing is that they weren’t shy about communicating to each other their pleasure and what they were enjoying.

Since Katya obviously enjoyed that shoot a lot and her most recent IM reminded us that she really likes it when someone is there watching her, or better yet participating, why not set it up so she can have more fun but with a better view?

Two possible setups would be Katya and another model (suggestions to follow) on either end of a couch facing each other (as opposed to side by side). This could be similar to the one just published with Verity except that both would participate instead of one simply watching while clothed. I got the feeling Katya would have enjoyed that more as well. If both girls were at similar angles to the IM Katya and Verity did, one camera could catch the whole thing quite nicely and would afford Katya the kind of view I think she would really enjoy.

Another setup that would be both exciting and comfortable for the girls would be if you placed two stuffed chairs at angles next to each other and facing a mirror so that when sitting in them, the girls would be facing each other in the mirror. This would give them perfect views of each other and would allow for a single stationary camera as well. Sitting next to the bed is nice but easy chairs that allow for more comfort and allow one to stretch ones legs if desired (like certain lovely girls like to do when orgasming).

The final question is, who would be a great partner for Katya, from a viewer’s point of view? I wouldn’t presume to know what Katya would like so I will leave that up to her. Here are my candidates. I have chosen them for their expressiveness as well as their beauty. Although silence is golden, at times, sharing is what is called for at times like this.

All but one are “finger girls” since Katya obviously likes that for herself and in others. I added Tanya, who used a vibrator, because she obviously enjoys interacting with another girl in the room while masturbating. This list is in no particular order.

Tara
Bree
Miranda
Jacki (again? Why not? Even Jacki with any of these other wonderful girls)
Gabrielle
Christiana
Vanessa
Dee
Anneke (she loves watching porn, bet she would really enjoy it in person)


Thanks for doing such a wonderful job and most of all, THANK YOU KATYA!!!

[Binabik]

Abby and crew,

I have just seen the sample still for the "Pool Girls" set and I have died and gone to heaven. This is on top of the very tasty samples for the screenprinting girls set(s). I hope that each of these has accompanying video. Dare I also wish for at least a small portion of the Pool Girls set contains some of the girls sunbathing on towels?

Multiple girl shoots were the reason I signed up again after a hiatus about 3 years back. I refer specifically to the Six Girls shoot. Since then we've had quite a few others all of which have been outstanding.

Arsby: your idea (?) - I've actually seen something like this done, still have the video somewhere. Seven girls, a selection of adult toys etc. If done with the high Abbywinters production standards it should be a roaring success.

I want to put my hand up for the gym idea. Yes, I'd like to see a bunch of women working out. Even better, an aerobics class or a tie in with a yoga session. Volleyball is a great one, in a backyard or on a beach. Basketball, similar (well, not on a beach of course). The problem with these really is that they are concepts geared more toward video than stills.

One question - is anyone here familiar with the term "Zenra"?

[arsby]

In this one thread I count 4 first-time posters who I haven't even said Hi to yet!

Hi, Binabik!
Hi, Masterfan!
Hi, CKFire!
Hi, Elelbe!


Binabik:
I looked up Zenra and WOW! What wouldn't you give for a shot like this (http://www.zenra-movie-annex.com/zenra-10.htm) of AW.com models. VidDude wants Nude Netball; I say, give it to him!

Looking down the thread I see a bunch of folks, including a couple of our newbies, advocating for a multi-girl toy-fest like the sex-toy-saleslady idea or the Jamie/Suzanna toy play vid. Maybe we could broaden the Dildo Drive to include other types of toys. One model can demonstrate how a french tickler works, another can demonstrate Ben Wa balls, another can do sex beads...

CkFire:
Read the faq here (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=wiki&id=WhyGirlboyfew) for an explanation about why there are so few boy-girl sets here.
Meantimes, enjoy the girls!

[foppa21]

I had some more coffee... To continue...

- A "pressurized whipped cream" fight... A lot of fun! I had one with my wife... I ended up dead to the world - she ended up worrying about the laundry and the stains (grease stains...) and getting the walls clean before the kids got back from the babysitter. :o

- At our private pool the ladies do "water gymnastics?" - been tempted many times to put on some goggles and go diving in that general area (never did it though, as I'm sure it would be frowned upon...) In other words - under water shots.

- I do find saunas exciting... Especially when they are filled with hot sweaty women!

- I also enjoy women playing beach volleyball... Load up the court - and let things bounce! Heck, we could vote for our favourite teams in a poll on the AW front page! :cool: It would also make for some amazing video! AW All-Stars against the AW All-Stars! :D Sigh* a man can dream, can't he?!

- I have always wondered what goes on when women go shopping? Does it really take that long to try on clothes?! In the Westerm world stores don't have surveillance cameras in the changing booths... I'm sure Abby could sneak one in there! Men want to know... show us what is really going on in there!

- (goofy) In ninth grade... one of the highlights was CPR training... All the (women, ok, girls really...) classmates jumping that doll like there was no tommorrow! <3 *ahhh*

I think I will leave it that - and have another cup of coffee.

[Vid Dude]

- I also enjoy women playing beach volleyball... Load up the court - and let things bounce! Heck, we could vote for our favourite teams in a poll on the AW front page! :cool: It would also make for some amazing video! AW All-Stars against the AW All-Stars! :D Sigh* a man can dream, can't he?!
This is like the biggest porn cliche in the world, so the only way it would work for us, I think, was if we got some really lean and muscular women to do it, i.e. people who look like the real professional athletes who play beach volleyball.

[foppa21]

This is like the biggest porn cliche in the world, so the only way it would work for us, I think, was if we got some really lean and muscular women to do it, i.e. people who look like the real professional athletes who play beach volleyball.
--- I must have missed the other 1000 takes... :o IN GENERAL - I'm sure EVERYTHING has been done... There is nothing truly unique here at AW (when it comes to subject matter...) What make it work (for me at least) is that the photographers are able to make real girls/women look real. To have fun.

I didn't realize that you had to be in the porn business to voice your ideas here. I'll shut up now.

[Vid Dude]

Wow, sorry if you got the wrong idea of my post. I wasn't suggesting your ideas were bad or you should stop. All I was commenting on was that naked volleyball is a cliche, as it stems from when 'naturist films' were popular. It's actually a good idea, if we put a twist on it such as what I suggested.

[masterfan]

"This is like the biggest porn cliche in the world, so the only way it would work for us, I think, was if we got some really lean and muscular women to do it, i.e. people who look like the real professional athletes who play beach volleyball."

Heck, if you're gonna go there and recruit some muscular women, why not be original and do a shoot in a gym with three or 4 buffed girls working out on the weights or circuit trainers? Sort of a "natural environment" kind of thing. That would be less the cliche and could be nice. Not my particular "thing" but still could be quite exciting.

[matilda]

in general would you say that you wanted to see more talking, particularly in g/g T3's?

[Binabik]

Binabik:
I looked up Zenra and WOW! What wouldn't you give for a shot like this (http://www.zenra-movie-annex.com/zenra-10.htm) of AW.com models. VidDude wants Nude Netball; I say, give it to him!

G'day Arsby, thanks for the welcome. Glad you liked the zenra stuff. The one you picked was a good example, but there was another pic on another page of that site where 12 girls were daisy chained, lips to lips in a big circle. Now *that* would be a Tier 3 (x12) :) I mean, Pool Girls has 12 models, or would people have trouble deciding where to look? Some of the Zenra titles have 20, or even 50 or more women doing stuff naked - aerobics, sports, there's even naked fishing and a couple of naked orchestra productions (does it show I'm a fan?)

Foppa21: love the idea on the whipped cream fight. Your earlier post had other food related scenarios too. A case of "food as porn"? :)

Vid Dude: buffed women would be one thing to do, however personal preference is for a variety of bodies involved. Not in the sense of trying to please all and sundry, just because that's real life. I'm here (apart from a love of multiple girl shoots) because AW has such a diverse range of women on it - summed up in song as: "Redheads and Ravens and girls who show skin, Brunettes and Blondes, the stacked and the thin, Asians and outdoor girls willing to sin, these are a few of my favourite things" :)

That's why I like AW.

No matter how many times somethings been done before, someone can always shed fresh light on it - Shakespeare's plays are a case in point.

Since we've touched that topic, why don't we do an offshoot thread "What's the biggest cliche in porn?" Oughta be good for a bit of heat and light. :D

[Luxman]

I like the Zenra stuff and I'm really tempted to give it a try, but technical info of what format the videos are (except for some XviD stuff) is not available.
I'd hate it to subscribe just to discover later that I'm not able to use their stuff.

Do you know which format they use Binabik?

Lxm

[Binabik]

I like the Zenra stuff and I'm really tempted to give it a try, but technical info of what format the videos are (except for some XviD stuff) is not available.
I'd hate it to subscribe just to discover later that I'm not able to use their stuff.

Do you know which format they use Binabik?

Lxm

Not as such. To be honest, Arsby came up with a site I was not familiar with, even though I recognise many of the stills. I had a go a clicking a link, and it comes up with a splash screen for one of those "multi-pass" sites, which tend to be not worth the money IMHO.

Most of the stuff can easily be obtained on DVD from Jlist.com. Apologies if I stepped over a line by quoting another site :eek: but much of their stuff is region free and well worth the effort. I have one with the swimming/aerobics/gym stuff and the naked fishing one. I don't like fishing, but I do like to see naked women tooling about in a boat and fishing. It's all a matter of perspective, or is that incentive? :D

Arsby's post has convinced me to get the volleyball one very soon now. I'd also love to get some AW, but have to go through their external supplier since I am, like Abby, Antipodean. One of these days I expect Mr Plod to come knocking on my door and drag me away .......

[Luxman]

Oh yeah, it was friend Arsby. Thanks for your reply Binabik.

So Arsby, perhaps you have the answer to my question.

I can tell you that the AW DVDs are well worth their price.
I really can recommend them.

Lxm

[foppa21]

Wow, sorry if you got the wrong idea of my post.

--- No worries... Me overeacting -- it was a looong day.

[arsby]

Oh yeah, it was friend Arsby. Thanks for your reply Binabik.

So Arsby, perhaps you have the answer to my question.

I can tell you that the AW DVDs are well worth their price.
I really can recommend them.

Lxm

As a result of Binabik's post I googled "zenra" and found that site.
I wouldn't even think of joining it. Those Japanese sites still pixellate the crotch area. What fun is that?

[Jo]

in general would you say that you wanted to see more talking, particularly in g/g T3's? Yes. This is something that's bothered me about many of our GG T3's, namely how quiet the models are and how little they talk to one another. Personally, I think it's a turnon for models to be able to talk to one another while they're having sex, tell each other what they like, what to do, etc. Like Matilda, I'd like to know if members would like this. It would also be interesting to know what models who have done T3's think.

jo

[hotdawg]

Yes. This is something that's bothered me about many of our GG T3's, namely how quiet the models are and how little they talk to one another. Personally, I think it's a turnon for models to be able to talk to one another while they're having sex, tell each other what they like, what to do, etc. Like Matilda, I'd like to know if members would like this. It would also be interesting to know what models who have done T3's think.

jo

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Jo,

Are you suggesting that people can't have sex without talking? I think I get what your shooting at, but hubby and I manage to have some of the best sex just by feeling the others responses to touch and sounds the other makes.....so maybe this is the case with the GG3 shoots AW has done?

Maybe Susie is just REALLY good at picking couplings that can feel each others desires really well, without verbal communication?

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hotdawgwife

[terulaen]

Some great ideas here!

Love these:
GG redux<3
working out/ gym/ sports/ nude netball (I hope Abby will not do masculine models, please no)
definitely for more talking in GG especially if intimate, however too much distracts the participants and the audience during sexual interaction, but they're usually too busy kissing
double IM facing each other
mutual masturbation
intimate talk in a sauna, although maybe technically impossible or costly such as underwater shots
mutual, and maybe mass, massage (from hannibal8)

[Lloyd2005]

How about some art work like this pic?

[daimm9]

How about a Nude High(ish) Board Diving video?
There would be lots of scope for strange angles and slow motion shots.
You could also have a strip on diving board followed by the dive.

I may be almost unique, but I don't like the idea of more Boy-Girl sex shoots. All the boy does whilst in action is hide the beautiful girl from us, whilst not looking good himself. However if I had the chance to take part, I might change my mind.

DaiMM

[TowelBoy]

... Those Japanese sites still pixellate the crotch area. What fun is that?

Arsby that sounds very painful - Those poor Japanese Women !
Is it a normal Cultural practice ? Perhaps the UN should become involved ?
I think you may have almost put me off - My Quest to Mount Fuji ! ;)
No - I'd still like to make an attempt - and Reach the Peak !
:)
TowelBoy

[matchless]

All this talk about Japanese porn has forced me to repeat myself ... having lived there for 8 months I must admit even though genitals aren't shown, there is still plenty to see and enjoy ... and also plenty that i wish had been left to the imagination. My reaction is still the same: what are you trying to protect people from by not showing wee-wee's and you-know-what's?

I don't really like explicit photography so I didn't miss it while I lived there. In some pictures and magazines, the digital removal is very precise so you still get to see quite a lot of lovely nakedness. And just like here, the models are very cute and seem to be having fun. I also like panties and you'll find plenty of that. Japanese society is shifting ever so slowly away from a patriarchy. Two things have helped propel that change: the need for more people in the workplace to support the pension system, and the fact that there will not be a male heir to the Chrysanthemum Throne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiko,_Princess_Toshi).

I like jlist.com but not just for the porn. Try the Strawberry Kit-Kats. The toy I plan on sending in for the AW toy drive was one I ordered off there, too. Believe it or not, they used to sell a Hello Kitty Vibrator ... wish I had ordered that when I had the chance :rolleyes: I guess even if I had, I'd want to keep it for that special someone I still might meet someday, or just for the novelty of it :)

[terulaen]

How about some art work like this pic?

I guess you haven't heard. They will be doing a shoot with several girls screenpainting each other according to the wonderful Susie.

Aha, here's the bait (http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4851)! Thanks to Luxman

[Lucas3a]

Despite warnings not to ask, there are often requests for GB shoots. The possibilities for that are too many to mention (along with those for men alone or in combinations), especially because other sites do this not very well. Despite obvious problems, not least an increased possibility of STIs, this site continues not to represent the GB combination except very rarely.

It is well understood that sites operated by men have difficulty shooting photos and videos of naked men, especially sexual naked men. The reasons offered on this site for having almost no men as models are only partly convincing. It does what it does very well indeed; but the artificial nature of what sometimes goes on and the rather narrow scope despite constantly changing personnel make the lack of other sexual combinations unfortunate.

[Duaane]

I love strip poker/ truth or dare!!!

Part one is strip poker, part too is truth or dare *almost all dare*, pulling cards from a deck (from kissing girl on the left, to licking girl's privates on the right ( a real game here ). My favoite in real life "masturbate and cumm", lots of dirction, and inter-action.
Just a thought from RL game I played. was fun :)

[capri]

Hey AW fanatics, staff and models!

I like most of the ideas thrown around by everyone in the thread, and I have to agree with Lucas3a about GB shoots. But what a good idea would be, is to use real life couples like I'm sure AW already does. I have done a shoot on AW's sister site, ISM, with an ex-partner, and found it to be heaps of fun to shoot, with things getting quite steamy in the Aussie outback! If current partners are shot together, they will most likely already know their partners sexual history (unless they are lying about how many sexual partners they've had....more or less!). Risk of STI's is known in that case. Either way, I think GB shoots are great to look at and watch, even though GG's are my personal favourite. Anyway guys, keep on with the clever and unique ideas for Abby, I'm sure she is conjuring up new ways to excite us all, based on your own thoughts! Keep on keeping on! <3

xox ~Capri~ xox

[matchless]

Let me ask a hypothetical question for reasons of illustration? Are there any bi-sexual men on this site who would like to see B/B shoots on this site? If the argument for B/G is that Abby would do better at that than everybody else, then you could say why not show all sexual combinations of partners, which would include B/B ...? I think the controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain) raging across America but not necessarily elsewhere (http://www.variety.com/ac2006_article/VR1117936090?nav=news&categoryid=1985&cs=1) over "Brokeback Mountain" (http://imdb.com/title/tt0388795/) illustrates clearly the hypocrisy in people who condemn all homosexual acts ... lesbians sex is as homo as gay male sex yet you don't hear as many people complaining about it.

There are now 5 (five) Girl Boy (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=category&category=61&allsections=yes) sets on this site as of today. Go -- download them, view them, enjoy them ... and try to get over the fact that this may be all the Girl Boy sets you will ever get here :) <3

[KelliM]

I've got an idea that could work for any Tier, and it's a variation of something that's been done repeatedly on this site.

Beach Girls, Shower Girls, as well as a few of the GGG shoots all have the girls going into the water in their bikinis, then playfully untying them and taking them off each other. So here's a variation for a shooot--works with any number of girls three or more...

Say it's a sleepover or something similar. The scene starts with all of the girls except for one just sitting around talking--they're either fully dressed or in pajamas. Then the last girl enters from the shower with a towel wrapped around her. She takes no more than two steps before one of the other girls reaches her arm up and *yoink* steals the girl's towel, leaving her completely naked. Rather than getting dressed, the now-naked girl chases the other ones around trying to strip them as well.

Once all the girls are nude, where you go from there is up to you, and that would determine the tier... just as Shower Girls could have stopped at a T1, or gone on to a T3.

What I like about this idea is one of the girls is completely nude almost from the beginning of the shoot, yet we still see the "journey" (as it's called on one of the tour pages) of all the other girls. I think it'd be a fairly unique twist.

By the way, the "journey" is one of the things I *love* about this site, and also about the Dressing Room to answer the current survey question.

[hannibal8]

A couple of ideas, just as food for thought:

A massage workshop? Get an instructor, find appropriate space and furniture, and let the gals take turns rubbing each other and learning some new tricks. Happy, naked and relaxed ladies ensue, and Abby ends up with an HQ full of hot models who give good footrubs. :) (I admit it'd be pretty slow, but I thought I'd put it out there anyway.)

Camping? I know it fails most of the criteria in the original question, but I've really liked the outdoor shoots I've seen here. And, there's something I love about the quality of sunlight coming through nylon tent fabric. Just think of it, though - Beautiful settings! Undressing in layers! Convenient setup for peeing shots, if you're so inclined! Campfire songs/stories! The subtle irony of someone pitching a tent in a GG video! (Horrible puns!)

[pjay]

Personally, I think it's a turnon for models to be able to talk to one another while they're having sex, tell each other what they like, what to do, etc.
I agree. I wouldn't want models to "fake" sex-talk, but if it flowed naturally then I would certainly like this.

Perhaps the models are shy. I know this sounds slightly ridiculous, but in my experience many (most?) people are happier having sex than talking about it. If you look at the solo vids, many of the models are quite happy to show their vulvas, but most of them hesitate when they have to put a name to this part. (Unsurprisingly, as no-one seems quite sure what to call it when speaking to other people - I hesitated over typing "vulva" in the previous sentence; then I had doubts as to whether to go with the Latin or the English plural!!!).

[matchless]

I've got an idea that could work for any Tier, and it's a variation of something that's been done repeatedly on this site.
When you make a statement like this, KelliM it's clear that you have been a member for more than a few days or weeks. But I see this is your first post so let me be the first to welcome you on your "coming out" ... so to speak :)

Your idea sounds like it would be fun to see. Sort of reminds me of one of the bedtime (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=358) portion of the second Six Girls shoot. I really loved this set as the girls, crammed into a small space on the boat, undress then rotate around and get dressed again, laughing all the time :) Isabella's flannel "Tweety Bird" PJs are my favourite ... :o

btw, if you don't know about it yet, this thread (http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2530) will tell you a little bit more about the folks who make up AbbyLand's forum community. Feel free to read through it and tell us some more about yourself, too :) Enjoy your stay!

[KelliM]

Six Girls is probably my favorite shoot on this site--it's the only one for which I have the entire pictureset (all 4 of them) downloaded onto my computer. The bedtime scene is one of my favorite parts, the other is where they're getting undressed on the beach and lotioning up. (Like I said, I love the "journey.")

Thanks for your nice comments, matchless. I've been an AW.com member for about two months now, but as you said, that was my first post on the forums. I'll see you on that thread you pointed me to! :D

--Kelli

[zalani]

Hi Abby and crew,
GGGG scene from a Girls fantasy perspective

Two friends g1 and g2 discussing there sexual persuasion discover that g1 has had several GG experiences whilst g2has had none but it curious. g1 relates some of her experiences whilst g2 admits to having had fantasies about a gg experience.

g1 suggests that they go for a massage at this great little place that she has been to before. She suggests that they have some hot looking women perform wonderful relaxing massages, so G2 agrees reluctantly and with some apprehension. g1 offers to pay.

They arrive and g1 asks for the special massage for two and pays.
They are taken into a room and told to strip off all clothes and put on the rope provided. They have to undress in front of each other behind a screen and this is the first time g2 has undressed fully in front of another woman.

g3 and g4 are the lovely massage attendants and are dressed in a plain white work dresses. They ask g1/g2 to remove there robes and lie face down on two separate massage tables in the same room. They place towels over there bodies.

{g1 - experienced girl, g2 - inexperienced girl, g3/g4 - masseuses }

Unbeknown to g2 this will be no ordinary massage, as without g2 seeing the 2 masseuses g3/g4 have removed there white dresses and panties and now start to perform the massage. g2 has her eyes shut face down through the hole in the table as she feels the warm oil and soft hands massaging her back and shoulders. Her arms, hands, feet, thighs were next then up over her bottom. g1 would occasionally look over and smile as she watched g2 and on this occasion g4 had stopped massaging g2 and was climbing up on the massage table and started massaging g2 with her naked body. g3 was already doing this to g1. imagine the surprise g2 got when she felt the naked breasts of g4 slide along her back. g2 glanced at g1 seeing that she was receiving the same and it felt so good she allowed it to continue.

This would continue for 5mins as g3 and g4 used there naked bodies to massage g1 and g2. g3 now had g1 roll over onto her back and started to massage her body using her pelvis and her hands. A short time later g4 gets g2 to roll over and does the same. By this time all girls are getting very hot and horny as g1 and g3 start kissing, g2 watches in disbelief and anticipation that this could be her first gg experience as g4 continues to tease her. g4 eventually succeeds as they kiss for the first time.

The scene continues as either a tier 2 or tier 3 with g1/g3 leading the way and g2 after watching what they are doing nodding to g4 as confirmation to try it as well.


What girl couldn't be tempted to try her first gg experience with this sort of massage seduction.

If you like this idea for a movie happy to then provide more detail on the content.

[Vid Dude]

It's always interesting to me how detailed fantasies can get.

[arsby]

One "enhancement" to zalani's long and involved scenario...
Those massages should include oil, lots of oil. There's nothing so beautiful as light glistening off a lovely girl's soft oiled skin. Imagine if the massage gets down to the crotch area, with the soft inner thighs glistening with oil. Then the oily fingers gently caress the vaginal lips, and gently pull them apart...

Eh? What was that about detailed fantasies, VD?

[TowelBoy]

... Then the oily fingers gently caress the vaginal lips, and gently pull them apart...

Eh? What was that about detailed fantasies, VD?

Arsby - You seem to have prematurely interrupted yourself !

What happens next ? ... I like details.
:)
TowelBoy

[arsby]

Arsby - You seem to have prematurely interrupted yourself !

What happens next ? ... I like details.
:)
TowelBoy

Dunno -- something about a finger and/or tongue slipping in.

I guess we'll have to wait for the video to come out. :)

[Leprechaun]

GIRLS WORKING OUT IN A GYM - Half a dozen people have made this suggestion.
ok, so they do that for 30 seconds, then what? What makes them interact? How and why do they get naked? come on, ya gotta give me more than that!
Some girls are working out in a gym. (Maybe we see them come in and change into their workout clothes - two strips for the price of one.) In the gym one girl (the challenger) says to another (the challengee) "Bet you can't do 5 (10, 15, whatever) sit-ups" (push-ups, deep knee bends, whatever people do in those places - I've never been in one, they don't serve beer). If the challengee does it then the challenger loses the bet and an article of clothing. If the challengee fails then the challenger must do it (this is so the challenges aren't for like 100 pull-ups). If the challenger can do it the challengee loses the bet and a piece of clothing. If the challenger fails, i. e. she was bluffing, then she loses an article. They take turns challenging each other and by the time everyone's naked they'll notice how good it feels to work out in the nude (which it does, I'm told). After buffing up in the buff for a while they all run off to the shower - WHEEEE!

The trick is to have enough clothes to make it sexy but not so many that the girls drop from exhaustion and are sore for the next two days.

- L

[arsby]

ok, so they do that for 30 seconds, then what? What makes them interact? How and why do they get naked?
One might ask the same question about a bunch of girls naked around a pool. What's so interesting about that?

I'll tell you what. They're naked! This means something to us! Naked is a good thing, esp. when it comes to pretty young women.

Frankly, I don't need them to interact that much. If you had eight models making the Nautilus circuit in the nude, with cameras moving from one to the other, that would be great. Watch those muscles ripple, watch those pretty faces strain with exertion. Add some incidental interaction, one "spotting" for another doing situps, or competition about who can do the most leg curls, jokes about what their boy/girlfriends would think, and you've got a show.

There's a couple nautilus machines that I could watch naked women use for hours. Really. I don't think I'd ever get bored:
leg (http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwfit/abd.gif) abduction (http://www.dolphinfitnessclubs.com/images_w/abduction.gif) and the
pectoral (http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/resources/category/1/0/7/6/images/popup.NEWCLUBSERIES.pecfly.jpg) fly (http://www.afproducts.com/images/content/KYP_147_2_2561.jpg).

Tell me you wouldn't want to watch some AW girls working out on those! Even if that's all they were doing.

(Then again, it's very soothing to oil up those aching muscles afterward! :D)

[arsby]

Having said all of that, I'd like to add the observation that the female AW staff appears to be getting more beautiful and numerous by the minute.
Perhaps they could walk through the concept of the nude workout. Nautilus equipment is optional... they can do stretches in a chair, or situps on the floor. Nudity is not optional. Neither is a camera to record it.

[Leprechaun]

Tell me you wouldn't want to watch some AW girls working out on those!

Arsby, I'd love to accomodate your request ... but I can't. You're just too good a guy to lie to.

- L

[lowhang]

I just love the two series, Shower Girls and Paula & Anneke. Slippery is much better any way you look at it, so why not do a shoot with two or more girls involved in oiling each other up and sliding their breasts around on each other? I think that would be a real keeper!

[tango54]

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[Southrn500]

I have enjoyed everyone of the multi-girl sessions you've done. The waterfal, twisterl and the dance studio were awesome. I saw some people interested in some sports. When I saw this, I also thought of things like ping-pong. You seem to have several models involved in net-ball. That seems like an incredible idea. Vollyball. Bowling (though that one may be tough getting an alley that would allow it). I just think the idea of a group of girls involved in 'physical activity' not normally seen done nude is so intriguing.

[Randomthoughts]

Who in the world didn't find the Robert Palmer girls sexy?
One of the best things to happen in the 80's...:cool:

RT...

[stevofoto1]

This is an IM/GG crossover kind of idea: Have one girl give another directions or, more subtly, suggestions about getting undressed, etc. The girl giving directions remains dressed for most of the shoot. This has already been done in a variety of subtle ways in different AW shoots. In fact, the whole idea of someone off-camera talking and/or giving directions (which has been done by you) is an adaptation of this. I thought the whole "Special Projects" thing had to do with this but I've lost track of the status of this project.

[drSpice]

I have not viewed evry vid so tell me if I missed out on something already explored.

I think it would be very hot to hear two girls discuss their sexual fantasies after having discussed their RL experiences, and told us how they like to be aroused and fav sex moves. I'd love to hear girls admitting to wanting to try various things, role plays, scenarios, getting a little kinky even.

Even better would be to offer the girls the opportunity to live out a fantasy on film, even a BG fantasy. The girl should have the say it how explicit to get, what positions, toys, games, oral or whatever she wants to try. This could be a "fantasy corner" section of the site. Its just the girls own fantasy, not suggested by a man. She gets as wild as she wants. We get to see a woman who is not a performer play out a fantasy. This would have to be hot hot hot, especially with all the giggling and boundary-pushing. I can imagine some amazing facial expressions...

[zootsuit]

This is an IM/GG crossover kind of idea: Have one girl give another directions or, more subtly, suggestions about getting undressed, etc. The girl giving directions remains dressed for most of the shoot. This has already been done in a variety of subtle ways in different AW shoots. In fact, the whole idea of someone off-camera talking and/or giving directions (which has been done by you) is an adaptation of this. I thought the whole "Special Projects" thing had to do with this but I've lost track of the status of this project.
Yes, this was done very nicely in Tarah's IM (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=1197) where her friend, Jas, is just off camera entertaining Tarah while she pleasures herself. This type of scenario is highly erotic, all the more so because Tarah described her "friendshhip" with Jas in one of her previous videos (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=1160). In this same video, she also describes the "dirty things" she does together with Annie (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=image&index=152&shoot=2803). WOW!!! Now if only Tarah and Annie, or Jas would do a T3... heaven. <3

I agree that talking during (or before, or after) sex can be very erotic, as long as it isn't scripted. I would love to see and hear more real life stories of the models' GG experiences (first-time, last-time, and anything in between), along with physical interaction between two models who are already intimate with each other.

Not that I don't appreciate the usual T3s with models who meet for the first time. I can't help but imagine, though, that some of these relationships continued after the shoot. Is this just a fantasy of mine, or has this ever happened? If so, I'd love to hear about it.

[coalcracker49]

Wow, I just finished watching the "Paint Fight" video with the Screenprinting girls. Very lively, very aggressive, very sexy. Had this been a shoot on the beach, they could have put on an awesome wrestling exhibition in the sand. One of the best shoots I've seen involved Patima (and two other girls) in "Fun in the Sun." They were frolicking in a small stream or pond. They thoroughly enjoyed grabbing and tossing each other around in the water. It's still summer in Australia, isn't it? Consider some impromptu "wrestling exhibitions" in all shoots on the beach. Athletic, aggressive girls would love to "wrestle," and I guarantee that Abbywinters members would thoroughly enjoy it!

[keyholekate]

Hi. Still in my early days but - after browsing the site for a while, what did strike me was one of the simplest things u did. That was to have Fallon and Gilian on a bed together with a bunch of clothes which they were trying on for size. Great to watch and - u really don't need much of a reason for them to do something like that.
It don't have to be raw sex for it to be sexy ?

[badatti]

When I was a bou Scout at summer camp, we used to sneak off to spy on the girl scout camp nearby. I don't remember actually seeing anything but it was sure exciting at the time.

Nude aerobics and work out senarios are always erotic, especially the hydras. Those Sunday morning aerobic work out infomercials are highly exciting, even if the participants are clothed, Think how great it would be if they were all naked.

[TowelBoy]

I would also like to vote for ... Aerobics AW Style * ...

* copyright 2006.

:)
TowelBoy

[badatti]

How about dodge ball, but instead of being out of the game when you get hit, you take off an articule of clothing. Also, to keep the girls from getting hurt, use a big nerf ball.

[Margaret]

When I was a bou Scout at summer camp, we used to sneak off to spy on the girl scout camp nearby. I don't remember actually seeing anything but it was sure exciting at the time.

Nude aerobics and work out senarios are always erotic, especially the hydras. Those Sunday morning aerobic work out infomercials are highly exciting, even if the participants are clothed, Think how great it would be if they were all naked.

Nude aerobics sounds like great fun. Would need a studio or some remote public place. Lots of girls jumping around, tits flying everywhere, fannies all out for you to see. Good idea.:D

[arsby]

I've been bugging Abby to do multi-model aerobics/exercising shoot for years! It would be great if you could make it happen.

Let's see, we can invite back the pool girls and screen printing girls and maybe the waterfall girls and some of our favorite models (Margaret and Capri come to mind), clear out the big warehouse where they did screenprinting, put some mirrors on the walls, add a bunch of lights (wanna see everyone clearly), find an aerobics instructor (hunky guy or cute buff girl, hmmmm) and get those girls going till they sweat!

Arsby hyperventilates and faints dead away...

[christiana]

Hmmm....I used to do circus, I think a bunch of girls swinging on a trapeze and jumping around on a trampoline would be heaps fun.Not to mention all the twisting and bending and jiggling that would go on...

...xox

Arsby,resuscitate yourself,we need your comments/opinions....no......come back....come back...

[Dafydd]

See, what we really need is a dildo with a fiber-optic camera at the end. :D

[Margaret]

Hmmm....I used to do circus, I think a bunch of girls swinging on a trapeze and jumping around on a trampoline would be heaps fun.Not to mention all the twisting and bending and jiggling that would go on...

...xox

Arsby,resuscitate yourself,we need your comments/opinions....no......come back....come back...


oh that sounds awesome!!! That would be so much fun. Arsby wake up - what do you think of that idea??

Christiana swinging around in the air - woohoo. When? I wanna watch, i wanna touch, i wanna get involved.....

[arsby]

Arsby,resuscitate yourself,we need your comments/opinions....no......come back....come back...

Oooohhhh, I think I need mouth-to-mouth resuscitation!

Circus girls are a favorite fantasy! They're so lithe and bendy! (In those skimpy little outfits!)
Image if they were doing all that in the nude.
That twisting and bending and jiggling you're talking about would be unbelievably erotic, for me at least.

Christiana, you said "I used to do circus". Were you just visiting, one of the helpers, or a performer?!

Margaret... oooohhhh, I think I'm going to faint again.

[christiana]

Arsby,
No I was a performer in circus, we got paid to put on shows.I did the trapeze,chair balancing,chinese poles and what's called a 'web'.Basically it's a long rope hanging from the roof with cotton around it and you tie yourself up with it so you can do things with one arm or one leg,all of it to music.
Circus was actually an extension of my gymnastics career,and it turned out I developed a passion for it.I still love to watch the Cirque du Soliel shows when they're in Melbourne,as the woman that coached me was in Saltimbanco,one of their shows.

...xox

[arsby]

I did the trapeze,chair balancing,chinese poles and what's called a 'web'.Basically it's a long rope hanging from the roof with cotton around it and you tie yourself up with it so you can do things with one arm or one leg,all of it to music.
Arsby's eyes go very wide.
Ummmm, aaaaahhh, hmmmm, how do it put this...
Can you do it all naked??!!

Talk about a dream come true. A beautiful woman doing nude gymnastics.

Actually, only one thing better than that... many beautiful women doing nude gymnastics.

Well, I think we're all in agreement here. Let's start planning this! :)

[casgrain]

Arsby, you should take a look at Christiana's videos, she did a few hanstanding naked. :p

[Luxman]

Nude Aerobics, nude Circus performance,...

Sounds perfect to me and doesn't need any playing cards!

Lxm

[arsby]

Sounds perfect to me and doesn't need any playing cards!


A little off-topic here, but what a great idea. Abbywinters.com playing cards! Okay, so you'd have to find 53* young ladies who will give special permission to have their images on the cards, and a distributor, but what the hay!

* Who will play the joker? My vote: Capri. She'd look great in one of those funny hats! :)

[Duaane]

I would like a deck of AW models :)

Have the models match the card *like her milliness being the Queen of Harts*, etc.

[Duaane]

Hay great Idea, promote them with a game of dare poker, with 3 or 4 models, and make a shoot of it :)

[TowelBoy]

I would also like to vote for ... Aerobics AW Style * ...

* copyright 2006.

Not to mention all the twisting and bending and jiggling that would go on...

Nude Aerobics !
Please make it so - will someone tally the votes ?
I admit to voting twice.
:o
TowelBoy

[coalcracker49]

After reading all the posts (including Christiana's) about gymnastics, trapeze, etc. I went back and checked Christiana's shoots, which described her as "strong, muscular, athletic, flexible." She also listed swimming as a favorite activity. I then went to check Lazuli's shoots. She, too, is quite strong, muscular, athletic, and flexible. And she lists "surfing" as her major activity. (Go to Lazuli's beach shoot and watch her go from cartwheels into a boxing stance. It is awesome!!)

Add to that the fact that Lazuli and Christiana are identical in size (167 cm), and almost identical in age (18 vs. 19). This to me is a near perfect matchup for the hypothetical Abbywinters championship. Christiana vs. Lazuli in tests of skills and strength. Add whatever events you prefer. Put them in a weight room and set up flexibility, aerobic, and strength competitions (weight lifting, arm wrestling, leg wrestling, you name it). And, if there is a swimming pool or beach nearby, then a test of swimming skills (and beachwrestling skills, lol) would be a great ending to a tremendous competition.

Who would win? Well, if everything else is equal, I think that the self-discipline and strength required of gymnasts would result in a close victory for Christiana!!

[pjay]

Can you do it all naked??!!

Talk about a dream come true. A beautiful woman doing nude gymnastics.
This is surely the very shoot that Deviations was designed for!

[paula]

wowsers!!!!! I'm in awe of Christiana :D Can you still perform those kinds of things? There sooooooo should be a vid of just you and your tricks ;)

I have a fantasy anout getting a nice big barrel, filling it with grapes and girls and squishing it around and pretending to make wine *sigh*made with women's bodies..... now who wouldnt want that kind of wine huh?

[chimmy]

Paula, awesome idea.

A nice drop of AW Chardonnay (I don't think it I can type it like Kath and Kim would say it :()

I was making dinner last night and I wondered if there was a opportunity to do some nude cooking? Not in a chauvenistic 'womans place is in the kitchen' way but more of a 'its the 21st Century and blah blah blah...'. Model making favourite dish while disrobing?

Not really thinking food fight. More nude cooking show :)

I guess you have to be careful with the choice of dish. Deep fat frying and naked people may not go together :)

[paula]

hehe naked chefs ;)

[chimmy]

Sprung! I watched Jamie's Great Italian Escape last night. :)

I guess that might have been part of the inspiration althought I think Jamie always claims it's the food not him that is naked.

[pjay]

I was making dinner last night and I wondered if there was a opportunity to do some nude cooking? Not in a chauvenistic 'womans place is in the kitchen' way but more of a 'its the 21st Century and blah blah blah...'. Model making favourite dish while disrobing?
Chimmy, you may like to take a look at Francis' video (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=356). AW.com has been there and done that :)

[christiana]

Chimmy,
Last night I had an experience with cooking in a bra.There was too much oil in the pan and when i put the meat in I got splashed all on my tummy with the hot oil.I was dancing around for a while,trying not to swear,and my partner found it rather amusing.
I have now learnt my lesson!

[chimmy]

Ooooo, I'll go and check it out straight away.

AW archives are just so big and scary and filled with cobwebs I dare not go there without someone to show the way :)

[chimmy]

Oww Christiana.

Sounds painful!

I think selecting the right attire for each culinary journey is important. :)

Edit: I'm wondering what in what company you could cook in your bra but it not be OK to swear! Is you bf offended by sailor talk? Did you have the nudist in-laws around?

[chimmy]

pjay, just watched the adorable Francis in her 'hot buns' video.

It's kind of amazing that something edible was created out of such a flamboyant process!

Not sure I would have choosed banana flavoured, I've never been a big fan of fake banana flavour. Francis promised more reciepes (and also promised I could email her at francis@hotbuns.com which I don't believe :) ) but I guess that didn't happen.

[arsby]

Chimmy,
Last night I had an experience with cooking in a bra.There was too much oil in the pan and when i put the meat in I got splashed all on my tummy with the hot oil.I was dancing around for a while,trying not to swear,and my partner found it rather amusing.
I have now learnt my lesson!
Anyone else thinking of the movie Mrs. Doubtfire?

[Abby]

I got splashed all on my tummy with the hot oil.

I don't believe you. I think I need proof.

Right guys?

a

[Margaret]

Chimmy,
Last night I had an experience with cooking in a bra.There was too much oil in the pan and when i put the meat in I got splashed all on my tummy with the hot oil.I was dancing around for a while,trying not to swear,and my partner found it rather amusing.
I have now learnt my lesson!

Why were you cooking in a bra??? :rolleyes:

I like the idea of cooking something with a bunch of girls and having a food fight but would have to be soft foods, like flour, maybe some milk. Baking a cake or a couple of muffins would be good idea. Toss flour around the kitchen and make a great big mess then just cleaning up and wipe flour off each others faces and bodies, then maybe a bit of touching, caressing, careful kissing, maybe some big tongue action???? hmmmm.... tongue.... ;)

[Luxman]

...when i put the meat in I got splashed all on my tummy with the hot oil.
Ouch!

Abby's right, we need a proof. For the insurance company of course.

Lxm

[nona]

pretty cheesy and porny but how about a visiting 'tupperware lady' noughties version (we all know they now stock sex toys), each toy is explanined girls get excited and then give em a bash, which would enevitably lead to an orgasm contest, who can come the quickest, hardest, loudest and of course at the same time!

[christiana]

Margaret,

I was cooking in a bra coz I had just gotten out of a nice warm spa bath...mmmmm.....
And as if I'm going to wear layers of clothes when I don't have to! That's like telling me to wear shoes in summer. Not going to happen !!

Abby and Luxman,

I remembered a little thing my mum always told me to do if I got burnt....put water on it! So I did, and am happy to announce that I have no big burn marks that are going to scar....YAY!!

Mum's are always right.....

[Vid Dude]

Actually, water on burns is just meant to relieve the pain; it won't have any effect on possible scarring.

[TowelBoy]

Actually, water on burns is just meant to relieve the pain; it won't have any effect on possible scarring.

Be careful - I already didn't like seeing Christiana having bad sunburn in her GG with Gabrielle -
Please look after something so soft, smooth and tender to the touch.
:o
TowelBoy

[christiana]

Yes, Vid Dude, but washing off the hot oil before it burns through too many layers of skin does help.

[casgrain]

Can we have a picture to prove that no damage was done.:p

[christiana]

Casgrain,

I just had a backstage pic taken of me (of course, my bare torso is in it) so you can wait until that goes up....that'll prove that I am burn mark free!!

[casgrain]

Great, than I'll have to wait and see, and can I add that any picture of you is worth the wait.:)

[christiana]

Awww thankyou :o

You're such a sweetie <3

[stoneyyy]

Actually, water on burns is just meant to relieve the pain; it won't have any effect on possible scarring.

Water or ice on a burn helps get the heat out so it doesn't cook too much

[casgrain]

Well thank you Christiana,my pleasure. I've always been very frank and honest with girls.:o

[arsby]

pretty cheesy and porny but how about a visiting 'tupperware lady' noughties version (we all know they now stock sex toys), each toy is explanined girls get excited and then give em a bash, which would enevitably lead to an orgasm contest, who can come the quickest, hardest, loudest and of course at the same time!
Oh, Yes Yes Yes. PLEASE make this happen! Nona, will you be the sex toy saleslady?

[Vid Dude]

I think there should be a genuine saleslady, who doesn't join in, but observes it all.

[arsby]

I think there should be a genuine saleslady, who doesn't join in, but observes it all.
Dr. Ruth, doing a cameo?
In that case, Nona shouldn't be the saleslady.

[Dafydd]

Any models into lifting weights? One could be lifting, and stripping down the hotter and sweatier she gets, and the other could be spotting, and maybe at one point being benchpressed, and...things go on from there. :D

Other thing I've been thinking about: I was watching one of the really old G/G videos recently, the one of Ally & Charlie (hot stuff, you guys who haven't seen it yet), and I found I reallly liked their interaction not just with each other, but with the folks behind the camera. I was thinking maybe you could do a kind of "half-backstage" thing, where the models are getting it on, but not ignoring the crew. And maybe Susie or someone gets in the shot for something for a moment. (Maybe get the models to describe what they're feeling as they're feeling it?) A little fun something for the Deviations section, perhaps.

Oh, and...um...should there ever, you know, be a DVD with say, the Valerie & Jade T shoot, and the Gabrielle & Christiana shoot...(oh please oh please oh please)...how about a commentary track with the models? :D

[paula]

I like the whole "day in the life of so and so" concept..... you really get to know the models that way :D I know Chloe B and I could certainly show you all a fun time!!!!!

[arsby]

I was watching one of the really old G/G videos recently, the one of Ally & Charlie (hot stuff, you guys who haven't seen it yet), and I found I reallly liked their interaction not just with each other, but with the folks behind the camera...

THAT video (and the stills), 4 years ago, really turned my head about girl/girl shoots. Until then I just avoided them, never having seen ANY ANYWHERE that interested me in the least. But those two, so fresh, so pretty, so real, obviously both having fun and getting passionate...

Ah, how I remember my first time...

[jseas]

I thought I'd post the comment I wrote in response to the survey here, since I had a couple of ideas for future shoots:

"AW excels in the gg category, probably turning out videos and shoots that are as sexy as any on the internet or on video. The staff generally does a splendid job of pairing up models, and some are truly inspired. Christiana and Gabrielle come to mind, especially since their love-making went beyond the standard fare (Christiana standing against the wall while Gabrielle licks her from behind…mmm.)

In some cases, obviously, the pairings are less successful. In some cases, I think it’s just me: I’m not too keen on the women. Sometimes, the shoot just doesn’t work. (I’m sure the staff walks away from an occasional shoot, though maybe less often now, realizing that maybe one of the gals is too shy, or not particularly expressive, or that the couple didn’t connect.)

I’d probably vote for an attempt to mix things up just a bit, maybe trying for some more raunchy stuff once in a while. In my visits to my local women-owned sex toy shop, there sure seem to be a lot of harnesses and bondage-like stuff; I’m pretty sure that this is not only a male fantasy but that some women are using it with each other. So, building on scenes like the fantastic Susie-Petra set a couple of years ago might be fun.

I also had one idea of doing a kind of Backstage-style shoot, but not just with one couple. Instead, you’d bring together four or five or six women, have them party a bit, then get into fooling around without determining beforehand whom they end up with, or even if they end up just in couples or in a giant orgy. The shots would be less set up and more casual, and maybe you’d have an extra photographer on hand if two gals decided to go off on their own. Might be a pain to arrange, but could be fun."

[hotdawg]

Two words for a AW GGGGGGG+ shoot....

Food Fight....

hotdawgwife

[jseas]

Two words for a AW GGGGGGG+ shoot....

Food Fight....

hotdawgwife

Well maybe they'd eat out instead...

[jseas]

Another idea, probably mentioned by someone before...a bit of a "Story of O" like theme, maybe one woman is in bed, blindfolded and, either one at a time or in a pair the other gals come in, slowly teasing and seducing her, undressing her and tasting her until she reaches the point of no return ...she's never met them and they've never met her (until all is revealed at the end). The scenario would be particularly good with a first-timer in the blindfold, though maybe that's asking too much. But could be fun nevertheless.

[Randomthoughts]

It appears the blindfold scenario has arisen a few times in this thread. Whaday'a think Abby and staff?

;)

RT...

[arsby]

It appears the blindfold scenario has arisen a few times in this thread. Whaday'a think Abby and staff?

But if they blindfold Abby and the staff, who's going to take the pi....

Ow, that hurts!

[Randomthoughts]

Dad??? Is that you?????
:eek:
RT...

[paula]

i love the game where you are blindfolded and you have to sniff or eat something and guess what it is..... I'd love to do that for a shoot..... hehe, and if you get the answer wrong, you must remove your clothes HOORAY!!!!! :D

[liandra]

What about an Abby winters naked basket ball tournament? Then Paula can show us her special "bum foul"

[paula]

ah!!!!! hehehe, uve been watching or reading my nudies stuff havent ya! ;) i promise to personally show you a bum foul next time i see you okay! :D

[coalcracker49]

Just saw Christiana in the Sat. Feb. 25 update. She looks great wearing nothing but a holster with a gun. But the best pictures from this shoot are when she drops the holster and goes into a boxing stance with some nice flexing. The last awesome flexing/boxing stance I saw was by Lazuli in her beach shoot. Of course that leads me back into my previous post of Christiana vs. Lazuli for the hypothetical Abbywinters championship, featuring various tests of strength and skill!!

Just wondering if Christiana has taken any kickboxing/martial arts classes at the gym!

[Dafydd]

ah!!!!! hehehe, uve been watching or reading my nudies stuff havent ya! ;) i promise to personally show you a bum foul next time i see you okay! :D
Sorry, Paula, I just can't imagine anything about your bum that might be considered foul. :p

[Marcio]

So this is where you post new ideas, not over at Abby Winters Labs. I posted a whole list of ideas at "Some ideas for gg shoots" and got next to no reply, not even for my offer of a CASH PRIZE. Ah well.

Anyway, here's another one...

Five girls come into a room in which there is a bed with a pile of pillows or cushions on it. Three of them sit down in a row beside the bed while a fourth one strips and lies on her front across the pile of cushions/pillows, so that her backside is lifted well off the bed. The fifth girl kneels behind her and brings her to orgasm with a toy. Once she has come another one takes her place and so on until the same girl has serviced all four, one after the other (preferably without a break). Simple, but...the girl with the toy can't do anything without instructions from her naked partner and the instructions only last 20 seconds before they have to be renewed.

I have done this with two girls and it is sexy and great fun, believe me. For example, once the naked girl realises she really can finish the job successfully, despite the constant interruptions, she will want to get a move on and can be impatient (even snappy) with her partner if there are misunderstandings.

The other girl isn't totally passive of course and needs to make sure she doesn't tease her naked companion too much because then she might not be able to come at all. However, when it goes just right, even a shy girl will be so eager to do her duty that she won't be able to prevent a noisy and energetic orgasm (even if she knows she will be embarrassed about it later).

The naked girl will probably be keen to lend a hand (so to speak) but a sharp slap on the backside will remind her not to.

It would be fascinating to see the girls' reactions and to hear what they are thinking as they watch the performance and wait their turn to be serviced, as well as what they feel afterwards.

The next stage on from two girls is to do the same thing with three. The idea would be the same but one girl would kneel behind the upturned bums of two naked girls, side by side. The challenge this time of course would be to steer them to orgasm as a pair.

I think this idea is sexy, fun and easy to do, just like my others. What do people think-especially the folks at AW?

[Margaret]

This post is too long to read now and i'm just lazy and dont have the time.

It may have been posted before but what about a couple of girls clean a car, getting all soapie and wet or a group of girls at a car wash getting all wet then having to strip down then towel each other to get dry.

Just putting it out there.

[TowelBoy]

It may have been posted before but what about a couple of girls clean a car,
getting all soapie and wet or a group of girls at a car wash getting all wet then having to strip down
then towel each other to get dry.

Oh Margaret,

Yes ... " towel each other to get dry "
Yes ... " towel each other to get dry "
Yes ... " towel each other to get dry "

:o
TowelBoy

[gilian]

i had an idea inspired by screen printing girls, what about Life Drawing girls? Each model strips off and gets in the middle while the others draw her, and then swap around so that each girl has been drawn in a different position and everyone gets naked. Plus, it's all in the name of art.


me tooo me tooo!!!

and hey, you could decorate your new office with the drawings!! not bad, not bad at all.
G

[gilian]

ok, that was a quote up there, im not very tech savvy.

[matchless]

Hey Gillian,

Regarding art and shoots and shoots of people being artistic, you might want to check out this thread (http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5091). Abby's response there would probably apply to this, too.

[Darth Dave]

We have had some issues where one model is prepared to do a lot more than another model due to personal boundaries, so we have to instruct the more liberal model to take it easy on the more conservative model

Using what Abby wrote that occasionally one model is prepared to do a lot more than another model, I think a shoot with one model doing explicit posing while the other model does the less explicit posing could be interesting, I’m not sure why I find it interesting it’s sort of a contrast thing that I like.

I also really like the idea of an explicit T1 or group shoot where there is no touching but the models do explicit posing and such it’s a sexual thing without the sex.

Dave

[pjay]

I also really like the idea of an explicit T1 or group shoot where there is no touching but the models do explicit posing and such it’s a sexual thing without the sex.
Yes, I'd like that too. I'm sure there are models who are comfortable with explicit posing but who don't want to get it on with another girl.

OTOH, there would be the danger of it turning into a "mainstream" porn sort of shoot. Generally with the T1s there's some kind of justification or rationale for the girls getting naked together (e.g. on the beach, in the changing room showers, in the pool, involved in a collective art work ;) ); I'm not sure if a T1 set without at least a flimsy pretext might not be a little at odds with the normal style of shoots here.

The again, I'm sure those clever AW people might be able to come up with a way around this.

[Abby]

actually, the 10 girl T1 slumber party had some elements of this, but i am not sure if either of the two video cameras caught it, cos there was so much going on.

I am not sure if I like it cos it "breaks the rules", and I kinda like the T1/T2/T3 divide we have now.

End of the day, I guess it's not a huge deal.

a

[paula]

abby, i think it would be great to see more videos and photo sets of more than one model together or tier1's i think im referring to..... its twice the fun, and if you get a boring girl, then the other one can make up for that :P lol its also a great way for models to get to meet each other!!!!! which of course can lead to fun crazy times :P and who knows, girls who meet on a tier1 might one day be up for doing a tier 3 together..... nice way to test their compatibility :D

its also fun seeing other models crash another models video..... it was so much fun doing that with gracie and nicola! :P

[flatspin]

I also really like the idea of an explicit T1 or group shoot where there is no touching but the models do explicit posing and such it’s a sexual thing without the sex.

Dave

I like the idea of a vaginal self examination class - with face mirrors - to become, in Betty Dodson's term, "Cunt-positive".
http://www.bettydodson.com/

In those (consciousness raising) groups, women learned to appreciate the beauty of their genitals...


I don't know that this would be appropriate for a T1 shoot but it would be explicit and no touching (not to mention educational!!). IIRC wimmins CR groups (in Sydney anyway) were self examination only, not into masturbation therapy ala Betty Dobson. The consciousness raising groups being a mainly 70's and 80's thing, the models would have the chance to get into (and out of) 70's-80's retro fashion.

Of course there is the looking at (sorry, appreciating) others vaginas.
And then there is the comparing....
Nadia A Me and Matilda compared vaginas, it was very funny.

I know "this isnt the matilda show" but someone would have to be the group session leader.:)

[paula]

ah i wish there was a matilda show! and thats a great idea flatspin..... i think its erotic watching a girl watching and learning!!!!! especially something like her vagina.... i think more girls myself included need to learn more about this piece of our anatomy!

[flatspin]

Thanks for the positive feedback, Paula. Of course if this shoot ever happens it would be great if you could be part of it!!!!:)

i think its erotic watching a girl watching and learning!!!!!especially something like her vagina

And definitely erotic for this Aussie bloke.

Now I think about it Matilda may have a problem with the no touching part of this shoot.;)

[Darth Dave]

its also fun seeing other models crash another models video..... it was so much fun doing that with gracie and nicola! :PI love that as well, Amy O’s videos where Anneke joined in are some of the hottest on the site without being a T2 or T3.
Susie’s vids that Kendra and Jamie crashed are great and of course Chloe’s footy videos with Jamie are among some of my favourites

I look forward to seeing what you, Gracie and Nicola got up to.

Dave

[Darth Dave]

actually, the 10 girl T1 slumber party had some elements of this, but i am not sure if either of the two video cameras caught it, cos there was so much going on.

I am not sure if I like it cos it "breaks the rules", and I kinda like the T1/T2/T3 divide we have now.The Slumber Party shoots sounds better all the time.
I was thinking a more explicit T1 shoot could be like the T1 version of a T2.7

ah i wish there was a matilda show!A Matilda and Paula show... if only.

Dave

[paula]

abby..... i was wondering what you think about this idea for a shoot.... see as its april as of today actually, i was thinking an easter egg hunt would be a super fun video in time for easter :D and not mention chocolate..... mmmmmmmmmm, now that always fun ;)

[Randomthoughts]

Blindfolded and searching the carpet for eggs....Hippity hoppp Hippity hopp..paws up...*sniffs for the loot...* Thump thump thump....
wait a minute, bunnies don't lay eggs!
Hey there is a good name - Thumper!!!!

Sorry...I digress

RT...

[paula]

LOL random, i didnt have that kind of egg hunt in mind...... but ah well ;)

i was thinking tha traditional garden/house hunt..... but that might be hard to film, but soooooooooo much fun..... chocolate yum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Luxman]

...wait a minute, bunnies don't lay eggs!

Of cause bunnies lay eggs, small chocolate eggs, at least the colour is chocolate. :)

Lxm

[Randomthoughts]

i was thinking tha traditional garden/house hunt..... but that might be hard to film, but soooooooooo much fun..... chocolate yum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So Paula...who would have the master map of the loot? Someone would have to know where to place the camera in wait for the moment the chocolate morsel gets discovered!
Now that person would be very, very vaulable as a friend...
Oh, Luxman - my favorite colour is actually corduroy....;)

RT...

[Randy]

What about a girls football team?

[TowelBoy]

What about a girls football team?

Do you need any Umpires ?
What about a Coach ?
:o
TowelBoy

[arsby]

What about a girls football team?
Awesome idea!

Here are the rules of Arsby-ball:
Two teams of 9 players each. Soft ball (maybe a beach ball?) to avoid injury to bare skin.
Team affiliation marked by headband and ankle band of a particular color.
Played in 4 quarters: First quarter is played with bra, shorts and knickers.
After the first quarter the shorts come off.
After the second quarter the bra comes off.
After the third quarter the knickers come off.
Teams are absolutely required to give each other a group hug after a goal, especially in the 4th quarter. Extra points are given for creative group hugs.
One point for a goal off the scorer's foot, two points for a goal off her head, three points off her chest or butt.
I was thinking of a penalty box where the penalized player has to vigorously lick the genitals of one of the female refs, but 1) I don't want players getting penalized on purpose (you know who you are), and 2) I don't want to scare away potential players who aren't into that stuff.

This would work really well in a big gymnasium or warehouse if you rent some padding for the walls and floor.
I want a percentage if you charge admission. This could be HUGE!

[arsby]

I was just reading throught the thread about the 10-girl sleepover, and someone mentioned 10 girls in nighties.

How about a bunch of girls modeling erotic outfits: teddies, crotchless panties, sheer nightgowns.

They take turns. Each one
- changes into an outfit behind a screen
- models the outfit in front of the other girls, walking up and down a faux walkway,
- does a small strip-tease out of the outfit. and
- watches the rest of the show nude, perhaps cuddled up with a friend.

Maybe you can make a deal with Victorias Secret or a competing lingerie firm.

Maybe you can auction off the items the girls strip out of! Would that be awesome or what?!

[Vid Dude]

crotchless panties
UGH! I have never understood the so-called "erotic-ness" of such things. The mere sight of them just repulse me.

[christiana]

Hehe, reminds me of a joke:

Wife wants to spice up the romance in her relationship so she puts on some crotchless panties.
Her husband is sitting on the couch so she goes over to him and puts one leg up on the arm of the couch and says "Well come on,then".
Husband jumps from the couch and replies "Are you crazy?I'm not going near that thing, look what it did to your underwear!".

~*C*~

[arsby]

UGH! I have never understood the so-called "erotic-ness" of such things. The mere sight of them just repulse me.
Me neither, but I was running out of descriptions of sexy underthings.

Good 'un, Christiana! :)

[TowelBoy]

I was just reading throught the thread about the 10-girl sleepover, and someone mentioned 10 girls in nighties.

Arsby ! ... " Someone mentioned 10 girls in nighties " ... Ahem ... Cough ... Please Look Here (http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=77751#post77751)

Sheer or diaphanous (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/diaphanous) Nighties are wonderful !
:)
TowelBoy

[arsby]

Sheer or diaphanous (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/diaphanous) Nighties are wonderful !
TowelBoy
Reminds me of one of my father's friends who always butchered big words. I remember him telling us about a club he visited where the women wore "diaphramous" gowns. :)
When he visited our house he complimented us on the beautiful "fossilage". (We think he meant foliage.)

[MelbGandalf]

What about dress ups as far as costumes go.......... i know you said no rehearsed lines but i imagine alot of the ladies may have pre-existing fantasies involving role plays etc....... bar maids / wenches.. or bdsm gear to experiment with??

Just a thought

[paula]

i think dressups would fall into the deviations category and ont for a normal shoot :( bummer hey!

[leegracie1972]

I like to see the nice sexy girls on here dress up for us.
Specialy you Paula hehehe.

Lee

[Techman]

Originally Posted by Abby
We have had some issues where one model is prepared to do a lot more than another model due to personal boundaries, so we have to instruct the more liberal model to take it easy on the more conservative model

Dave

Conservative models...

2840

Liberal models...

2841

[1unio1]

I would like to see g/g(/g/g) standing up naked next to each other from various angles, front, rear and side, talking (in a video) about and comparing their bodies, especially their breasts. did i say like? well, love.

everything else is secondary to me. well, thats just me

[fuji_w]

Gracie, I like your idea!! I'm quite good at drawing and I had life drawing course before!! It was really interesting but quite difficult
. It would be fun to draw many beautiful abby models! I had pj party and it was fun to see other models. I was disapointed that you weren't there... I hope I could see you if we had a chance to have drawing party!!
Fuji

[jimmyjoyce]

I've always thought it would be sexy to see two (or more) girls exchange clothes - completely! That is, both would start off fully clothed, then they'd strip in front of each other - perhaps helping each other out of their clothes - and then each would put on the other girl's clothes. (Again, perhaps, they could help each other on with things.)

I have to admit, though, that the main attraction for me would be to see them exchanging panties, and perhaps a lot of girls would think that was gross, so it may not be the 'relaxer' you're looking for.

(By the way, I'm new here, so if this has already been suggested - or tried - apologies for going over old ground.)

[paula]

i have a question for you all about shoots, and this has been raised before..... how to do a threesome tier 3 shoot, or even a foursome shoot.... remember abby has many reservations about doing a shoot like this unless great suggestions were made to make it absolutely feasible..... personally i think it would work with the right models, and if anyone is worried about someone missing out on pleasure/attention then just chuck in another model i say! :D

so does anyone have any (serious) suggestions about this?

[dilmun43]

My suggestion is nothing eleborate and is as follows

How about 2 Lasses sitting on the sofa Chilling 'N' Chatting after a Night out, enjoying a nice bottle of wine, while the third bops away to some Music eg. Mr Bowie singing Let's Dance for example.

Things eventually become more heated on the sofa - the Dancing Lass looks over lustily - enjoying what she is seeing. She allows the couple on the sofa to continue to enjoy themselves before kneeling on the floor and adding her talents to the Mix.

Then just let Spontaneity & Nature take it's course.

My ideal Trio would be Lucinda & Darcy as the Sofa Couple and Christiana as the Dancing Maiden.

My reasons for choosing them are that all three are GREAT Kissers and each appears to have a real Joie-de-Vivre attitude.

Here's hoping that it comes to fruition ! lol

[trebor]

More of a comment than a suggestion but I thought both the shower girls scene and of course Paula, Chloe, and Matilda's scene both came out great. I would love to see a tier three threesome shoot.

[JDMEDIA]

I would love to see a Tier 3 G/G with Elise and Ashley,two amazing girls from my lists. Both have awesome smiles and gorgeous eyes and i'm sure the two of them together would be mind blowing !
Jason

[f1r3fly]

Hi everyone!
This could probably be more a comment that an idea, but i would like to say that i'd love to see a GGT3 or even better a GGGT3 with something more than the girls getting at it right straight away from the beggining of the video, probably making something like a plot or scene, i'm aware that some will probably argue that this may interfere in the naturallity of the girls but i would personally put some limits and after a certain point simply let the girls be themselves, the previously commented idea about the three girls after the night out is a perfect example of what i am looking for, just something like a story that slowly and gently "pulls" de viewer into the girls minds creating a certain type of "complicity" during the viewing.

I would love to see what other users aswell as you, abbywinters staff and models, think about it. :)

(Sorry for ma possibly poor english)

Greetings from the canary islands =)

[edt500]

Better would be to plac a newbbie in ggt3 to view some action between other 2 girls and, say, perform an IM ...

[helier]

Nervous note. IMO adding 'plot' to a tier 3 or anything else would be a nightmare. It requires acting and scripting which is the antithesis of the work that AW does. I have a feeling that, attractive though the idea might be, most threesomes would appear contrived and impersonal after the first few minutes. The shower sequence was wonderful because it was spontaneous and a one-off. It lasted as long as it lasted and then it finished naturally in its own time. To set a thing like that up would almost certainly kill it. The threesome IM, which was I think with Katya, Liandra and Matilda, worked but there most of the interaction was verbal and the parameters were well-known and clear. Interesting Matilda was in both of those - hmmm, some kind of a key?? Probably not. Keeping in mind that what works with most tier 3's is the apparent sincerity and commitment of the participants, I don't think threesomes would work well because the technical complications for three or more girls in trying to stay in meaningful contact with each other would preclude it. I hope someone proves me wrong - I really do.

[helier]

On the subject of multiple models in a tier 1, however, I would just like to offer strong, if belated, support for Vidude's enthusiastic suggestion of netball. Okay, I realise he made this suggestion on March 2nd 2002 but I still think it's a good one. Netball is a beautiful sport because the fact that you can't run with the ball means the body has to be far more controlled than in basketball which is just a bash and crash-through sort of game by comparison. The movement is much prettier - almost like a dance. Also the teams are small and a helluva lot of Australian women play it - apparently Oz's most popular sport - so it would be easy to find participants. I would suggest a limited court size to make it possible to film without having ten cameras. You could then agree that each team loses some clothing each time the other side scores, say, five times. You'd absolutely have to start with the knickers - the idea of a team of girls playing that wild and graceful game with no knickers on under those gorgeous little skirts is totally delicious. I seem to remember that Armine is a netball player - now that's a good start.

[sorbet]

i would love to hear about what the AW staff is thinking about doing. do you guys have creative meetings? the pool party with the girls was fun but it was too stagey, lacked the natural frolicking feel (just girls hanging out by the pool); are you planning more like this? a games/barbecue vid would be fun (horse shoes, badmitton, frisbee, etc.

[Swindapa]

I like Dilmun's idea, the girls arriving home after a night out. Chatting and commenting on what they've done, who they saw, etc. Two hit the couch and start smooching as the third puts on music or gets drinks. When she returns to the room, she gets excited about what she sees, perhaps begins to rub herself as she watches. Leah V has expressed an interest in a threesome, and there are bound to be others available.(the list is probably endless)
One quirk could be to have two girls who have done things with each other before, and are comfortable with the idea, and the third an unknown to the other two. (BUT VERY WILLING TO TRY IT) Rosanna, Chloe B, and Leah V, for instance. Possibly Katya Y and Vanessa, with Leah added.
Another scenario could be a friendly get-together at a private pool, of maybe 6-8 girls. One of them watches two of her friends sneak off into the shrubbery and follows. It wouldn't be possible to get stills and appear real, so just have the video. Your very capable editor could cut back and forth between the girls remaining in the pool area and the hotties in the bushes as the action escalates. Perhaps the girls at the pool could do some T1 or 2 stuff as well. ("Gee, I wonder where Kathy went?") Minimal scripting is necessary, let the action on vid speak for itself. Whatever the girls say, whether at the pool or in the bushes, would be what they would normally say under the circumstances. ("I saw you sneak off, and i want to join you", or, "Can you make room for me?"
A third possibility is honesty. One girl invites two others to her house for the evening, with the stated purpose of having sex with both of them, either serially or in combination. "I've had a crush on you for months" would do for starters. Again, no stills, just video. No before and after interviews, unless you want to stage a phone call from the one to the other two, and ask them what they think after receiving the call. Follow them in traffic as they go to her house or something, or let them drive to her house together, talking about what they might do.
Lastly, face it - we'll all know as we watch that it was setup. The biggest punch will probably be the anticipation the two feel. Have you ever gotten ready for a date and had the feeling, "Yeah, I'm going to get down and do it tonight"? Knowing exactly what they've been invited to do, and who with, might get some unexpected responses from the two lovelies - this site has nothing BUT hotties after all, right? I'm positive that however Abby decides to do this, the results will be outstanding.
That's my 2 cents worth! Long Live Abby!!!! S....

[wies04]

Anything in a natural working setting would be great. (like waterfall girls and screenprinting). What I would love to see is a bunch of girls grooming each other. Helping each other on a beauty farm, sauna complex etc. Lots of variation there. Jacuzi, sauna, tanning, massage etc. Give them a bit of a treat after all the joy they cause us. examples (on a far lesser scale) are Shaving Sara on the sofa and Cassandra & Jennifer J. It can be extended to more girls.
If a better reason is needed, let it end up in a big truth or dare/ strip poker game. I am not giving any ideas about girls to choose. you're doing a marvelous job and I like being surprised with types op girls I never would have dreamed of.

[sorbet]

i'd really like to know whether these shoot idea posts ever go anywhere. seems it may be pointless. they do what they want to do.

[Dale_SanDiego]

Yes. This is something that's bothered me about many of our GG T3's, namely how quiet the models are and how little they talk to one another. Personally, I think it's a turnon for models to be able to talk to one another while they're having sex, tell each other what they like, what to do, etc. Like Matilda, I'd like to know if members would like this. It would also be interesting to know what models who have done T3's think.

jo

It's hard to find anything negative about AW, but if I did have some say in it, I'd prefer to hear those lovely Australian voices with their cute accents. I know that when I make love, there's all kinds of conversation going on, and I think these models actually stifle themselves in these shoots, by not saying much to each other.

[Dale_SanDiego]

Let me ask a hypothetical question for reasons of illustration? Are there any bi-sexual men on this site who would like to see B/B shoots on this site? If the argument for B/G is that Abby would do better at that than everybody else, then you could say why not show all sexual combinations of partners, which would include B/B ...? I think the controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain) raging across America but not necessarily elsewhere (http://www.variety.com/ac2006_article/VR1117936090?nav=news&categoryid=1985&cs=1) over "Brokeback Mountain" (http://imdb.com/title/tt0388795/) illustrates clearly the hypocrisy in people who condemn all homosexual acts ... lesbians sex is as homo as gay male sex yet you don't hear as many people complaining about it.

There are now 5 (five) Girl Boy (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=category&category=61&allsections=yes) sets on this site as of today. Go -- download them, view them, enjoy them ... and try to get over the fact that this may be all the Girl Boy sets you will ever get here :) <3

There are dozens, no thousands of other sites that offer that. Please leave AW like it is, plenty of us like it just fine.

[Randomthoughts]

I am questionable of people that are soooo "I never want to see a penis on this site or I will drop dead in shock" - Whooopy shit, if and when a kok is shown, it is done tastefully and happens very rarely and has been here since the inception of A/W - Caveat emptor
If abby doesn't do another - it is not the end of the world.
Preg/Lact/Piss/Tampon stuff also happens, so deal with it. Nobody is going to cater to you and only your only needs....

RT...

[bookmanz]

..... how to do a threesome tier 3 shoot, or even a foursome shoot.... any (serious) suggestions about this?

I really like the voyeuristic idea of a newbie or 'less expericed' girl watching a couple in a tier 3. Newbie girl starts out masturbating and then getting pulled in the action. It would be a bit more planning involved and more of a challenge to do a threesome or even a foursome, but Team Abby could pull it off! Probably more complicated to shoot and edit too.

[bookmanz]

Thinking about ideas for GG, GGG, ect... got me thinking. That's dangerous I know.

Would other members like to see more Interesting rooms or even outdoor locations? Less bedroom action?
Vanessa & Carla and Anneke & Katya did their magic in small chairs. Paula and Chloe had a chair and a mat, Gabrielle and Christiana had a whole couch. Chairs doesn't look as comfortable for the models but may allow for more varied poses and better angles for the photographers. It would be real interesting to hear what the models think. Susie? Matilda?

Anyway, the results are always great.

[paula]

i suppose i need to add a little more clarity..... i think it would suck havent ap lot for a threesome or any tier 3 for that matter..... anything that makes it unnatural and "performed" these girls need to just be having sex with each other, however due to abby's past concerns, she needs ideas as to how it would work, not specific "scenarios"/"plots" i guess, how do the models position themselves so they all get a go, and everything gets seen on camera, y'know? its a tricky one, i guess u just have to trial it.... :)

[thecat]

The joy of Abby , to me anyway , is the honesty of the experience that I'm watching.What I see is the reality of the individual or individuals who choose to share their intimacy with me.I , and again this is purely a personal opinion, would hate to see this most attractive and erotic aspect of Abby lost by the introduction of "direction" and "stage management" beyond that which already exists.
Love and Peace

[dxatkinson]

I think that the essence of your site is the natuaral way that things evolve. I would be creful not to do to much staging but put the girls into situations and let them evovle. Maybe brief the modewls to let them know your expectations and then trust them to "MAKE THINGS HAPPEN". It seems to me that most of the girls are very sexual and would not have a problem doing this.

How about a party with a masterbation orgy withand prizes for the best orgasm, quickest orgasm, wetest orgasm and so on. This could be a fun experience for alot of girls participating and maybe girl couples pairing off as the chose. Then some girls masterbating as they watch. This could include a porn party showing porn movies and letting nature take its course when the girls get turned on. I think a group materbation senerio with many girls participating would be hot.

As for threesomes I think that would be erotic to have one girl masterbating as she watches the other two getting off and switching partners and the same thing happening.

You have a great site and the natural nature of you shoots is what makes you #1. Natural masterbationg and sex without too many toys is absolutely fantastic. Please don't become like most other sites and loose that spontanous exual energy that the girls display naturally. Abby you and yuour Team are great. The models are absolutely the most natural and fun people, as well as sexy, that I have ever witnessed. THanks and keep up the excellent work.

[dxatkinson]

I think that the essence of your site is the natuaral way that things evolve. I would be creful not to do to much staging but put the girls into situations and let them evovle. Maybe brief the modewls to let them know your expectations and then trust them to "MAKE THINGS HAPPEN". It seems to me that most of the girls are very sexual and would not have a problem doing this.

How about a party with a masterbation orgy withand prizes for the best orgasm, quickest orgasm, wetest orgasm and so on. This could be a fun experience for alot of girls participating and maybe girl couples pairing off as the chose. Then some girls masterbating as they watch. This could include a porn party showing porn movies and letting nature take its course when the girls get turned on. I think a group materbation senerio with many girls participating would be hot.

As for threesomes I think that would be erotic to have one girl masterbating as she watches the other two getting off and switching partners and the same thing happening.

You have a great site and the natural nature of you shoots is what makes you #1. Natural masterbationg and sex without too many toys is absolutely fantastic. Please don't become like most other sites and loose that spontanous exual energy that the girls display naturally. Abby you and yuour Team are great. The models are absolutely the most natural and fun people, as well as sexy, that I have ever witnessed. THanks and keep up the excellent work.

[mayan567]

Personally, while the concept of the women getting together for the first time is cool, I would love to see some actual lovers, whenever possible, or women who have met and would like to try it again with each other. The idea of two women who know how to "move" the other from experience would be rich and profound. Thanks...cool site and provocative discussion.

[Duaane]

Ok my best would be a g/g/g: That could come from reality in AW's world.

2 girls are interviewed by a "staff" model,, and asks the to show what the two would do, giving a few ideas to the couple, she {the interviewer/model} get turned on and joins/ or shows the new model the technices :>)

Now this should be a winner, for AW........... IMHO .

[flatspin]

2 girls are interviewed by a "staff" model,, and asks the to show what the two would do, giving a few ideas to the couple, she {the interviewer/model} get turned on and joins/ or shows the new model the technices :>)

Sure, this would be a winner but how would you get someone like Matilda involved in a concept like this? ;)

[Jo]

Ok my best would be a g/g/g ... 2 girls are interviewed by a "staff" model,, and asks the to show what the two would do, giving a few ideas to the couple, she {the interviewer/model} get turned on and joins/ or shows the new model the technices :>). and flatspin, Sure, this would be a winner but how would you get someone like Matilda involved in a concept like this? ;) Gee, I dunno. This sounds like a creative research project. GGG field research. I think the creative goddess needs to conduct this interview, hmm? :D

jo

[jtaylor75]

[quote=flatspin]I like the idea of a vaginal self examination class - with face mirrors - to become, in Betty Dodson's term, "Cunt-positive".
http://www.bettydodson.com/

I second that motion. I hesitated mentioning it, since it ventures into a more medical fetish area (not that there's anything wrong with that), but I would love to see a "show and tell" kind of scene involving any number of ladies. It would also be fun to hear their thoughts on their vulvas and other parts as they compare and explore. Although there would be explicit nudiy, it could still be a T1 or T2 if there is little or no sexual touching. IMO, a scene like this would be fine without full G/G sex.

I also would love to see more scenes involving ladies who are already friends or at least acquaintances familiar with each other. I think it adds to the romance and sensuality when there is some emotional connection/chemistry there and they're not simply going through the motions, as anyone might with someone they've never met before. This may be easier said than done, but it's been great each time I've seen it done here. Paula and Chloe B. and Louisa and Mary Jane come to mind as examples.

[helier]

Suggestion. I'd like to see videos of models pulling their panties down - not necessarily undressed in any other way but just doing that. I suppose I'd start of a list of it but I can't really find it happening much in quite that way. Usually knickers are the last thing that come off. There is something lovely about a fully-dressed girl with her knickers hanging down, perhaps lifting up her skirt to show us. There were nice shots of the model Ana doing it - in the shoot that was interrupted by the window cleaner. It could be burrowing under skirts or dresses or it could be that they pull down jeans or shorts first. We might see their bums or pussies if they choose to show them or we might just see them pulling their knickers down and just being there with nothing else revealed. I guess the reason I like the idea is something to do with the normality of seeing a fully dressed girl - we all see girls on the street everyday. If she then chooses to drop her pants, that is special. Maybe, since this is not a very substantial activity, it could be done as a compilation - a series of models just doing this one activity as an adjunct to whatever else they are doing at AW - and maybe there are other compilations that could be done. So I guess my suggestion is something to do with compilations. On the other hand maybe it's just a possibility that could be kept in mind as a variation in ordinary shoots - that models don't always have to get completely undressed before dropping their panties. Also, maybe now and again complete IMs could be done like that - with the model staying fully dressed but pulling her knickers down just enough. This might enable IMs to be done in more adventurous places.

[arsby]

I'd like to see videos of models pulling their panties down...
Here's a silly suggestion for you... there are dozens and dozens of "dressing room" sets here. Nearly all of them start with the model putting her panties on. If you use your image browser to play them backward you'll have dozens of girls pulling their panties down. :)
Another thing you can do... to help out others who have the same interest... is develop a list of great panty-removing performances using the list function.

I like the idea of a vaginal self examination class...
I've been advocating something like this for years, to no avail. Dang!

[arsby]

I know this has about as much chance of happening as the Abby Winters Circus discussed in another thread, but...

Talented women turn me on, no getting around it. Whenever someone mentions an female artist I'm unaware of in the What Music Is On Your Stereo thread I go take a look, and in several cases, I've been impressed with their beauty. Kara recently mentioned a Scottish 4-girl group called The Hedrons, so I took a look at their pictures and Wham, I'm in love with all of them.

I'd love to see a group of girls perform in the nude. Can any of our models play drums? Any keyboardists around? Even a couple of guitarists and/or pianists performing together would be great.

I miss Cass (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=25). She was a lovely performer. If she were around she might do it.

[matchless]

Another thing you can do... to help out others who have the same interest... is develop a list of great panty-removing performances using the list function.
Or just look through the lists there now and see what you find ...
done (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=list+display&list=10401) and done (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=list+display&list=9456) and again (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=list+display&list=4476) :)

Explore, have fun. Enjoy your stay!

[helier]

Thank you, Arsby and Matchless, for your suggestions - silly and otherwise. To quote my original post: 'I suppose I'd start of a list of it but I can't really find it happening much in quite that way.' When I do, I assure you I'll start a list.:) Matchless, your examples are lovely but I was talking about fully dressed models dropping their panties - those you suggest are largely naked. Maybe I'm the only person who'd find this interesting anyway.

[arsby]

Helier, why don't you start a new thread in the Mundane Chatter forum called something like "Models who remove panties while dressed?", and explain what you're looking for.
I've edited hundreds of image sets here and I'm sure that there were at least a few who've removed their panties while their skirt was still on. I just can't remember who they are. Someone with a better memory than I have (Luxman?) might be able to help.

[Luxman]

Yes, there are some sets where the model removes the underwear before the skirt.
To be honest, I'm not able to tell you which sets, the volume is far to high now (1342 Sets).

Lxm

[matchless]

Matchless, your examples are lovely but I was talking about fully dressed models dropping their panties - those you suggest are largely naked. Maybe I'm the only person who'd find this interesting anyway.
I merely did the pointing. My lists, the ones I compiled are here (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=list+display&list=1745), here (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=list+display&list=3554), here (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=list+display&list=4013), and finally <3 my ever evolving and changing faves (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=list+display&list=1727) :o

I think I understand what you are looking for but as Luxman says, there are just too many sets out there now for me or anyone to take it upon myself to make a list for you. Maybe as you go through and explore, start keeping a private list. Or maybe you're one of those types who likes to hunt; perhaps a quest would be the perfect way to spend your time in AbbyLand :)

[dnorf1]

first off, let me say I love your site, Abby... best on the net!

Here's an idea for the bum fans:

treadmill girls (GGG)

Find 3 (or maybe 4?) treadmills, like you'd see at a fitness center, and get them as close together as you can. Have the ladies do a 5 minute stroll (natural walking speed) on the treadmills as they chat or listen to music... nekkid, of course!

Give us 5 shots of the whole stroll (all cams on tripods):

1 shot of all 3 framed from the top of the head down to just above the knee.
1 shot of all 3 bums as close up as you can, keeping them all in frame.
1 shot of each individual bum close up. (3 total)

No need to edit them together, just give us the entire 5 min. stroll from each angle.

Models that I'd suggest for the shoot would be, Diana, Kiri, Liandra and/or Fuji.

Aaaah, I love to watch the ladies walk together...

Cheers!

p.s. You could shoot another version from the front, too!

[arsby]

Hi, Dnorf! Welcome to the boards!

Loved your idea. But I'd add to it some other types of exercise. How about after the treadmill they get onto stationary bikes -- you'd like to see them pedalling from the rear, I'd like to see them pedaling from the front!
Then some sexy nude aerobics! Round it off with... squat thrusts! (http://www.netfit.co.uk/cirlb12.html)

[alleyes1]

treadmill girls (GGG)

dnorf1,
Excellent Idea!!! That's an original and a darn good one!! I'd like to see them on the treadmill from the back, front and sides!!!!!!:)

Oh, and a big Welcome to Abbywinters, dnorf1!!!! Hope you have fun !!!

Alleyes:)

[ham]

Arsby; Great ideas. Remember Ginny on the bike? Sensational!

[alleyes1]

In my long quest for Abbyland, (hear McCartney singing "The Long and Winding Road"), I once wasted $20.00 on a new site where the whole deal was girls doing jumping jacks nude!! Don't know if anyone else remembers it. It was a novel idea but the novelty soon wore off after so many!!! LOL :)

ae

[matchless]

A trip to the health club sounds like an excellent idea. But yes, why stop at just squat thrusts ... why only the treadmill? We can break down a video set to small segments on many machines. And then a trip to the sauna, maybe a soak in the hot top or a trip from the sauna to the pool to really get the blood moving! ;) And then after the models step out of the pool with their nipples all nice and perky, they can dry off with a big fluffy towel :) Something for everybody!

Squat thrusts made me think of something I don't usually think of: The Time Warp (http://www.rockymusic.org/misc/timewarped-frames.html) that very old dance sensation that swept the nation (http://www.timewarp.org.uk/) ... usually at midnight in your local movie palace (http://www.landmarktheatres.com/market/Milwaukee/OrientalTheatre.htm) ...
It's just a jump to the left ... and then a step to the right
Put your hands on your hips ... and bring your knees in tight
You do the pelvic thru-uh-uh-ust ... enough to drive you in-sa-a-a-aane
Let's do the Time Warp again! Let's do the Time Warp again!

[alleyes1]

usually at midnight

By all means...... "Let There Be Lips" :p <-- hey, it was the best I could do!!!!:D

alleyes

[Vid Dude]

I once wasted $20.00 on a new site where the whole deal was girls doing jumping jacks nude!! Don't know if anyone else remembers it.
Was that the one where they had it in a repeating flash file, so it would just go over and over and over, at your own rate?

[pjay]

I'd love to see a group of girls perform in the nude. Can any of our models play drums? Any keyboardists around? Even a couple of guitarists and/or pianists performing together would be great.

Hmm, Akila (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=image&index=54&shoot=1659) on rhythm guitar, Jacki (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=image&index=1&shoot=1588) on lead (as the photo demonstrates, the lead guitarist gets all the groupies ;) ), Jamie on percussion (in Ana's belly-dancing vid (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=561)), as you already suggested Cass (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=25) as vocalist and songwriter.

I believe Georgina (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=434) was also a guitarist and keyboardist in an indie rock band, but there are no pictures with instrument, IIRC.

[alleyes1]

Was that the one where they had it in a repeating flash file, so it would just go over and over and over, at your own rate?

They may have done it that way VD, I don't really remember it, or probably didn't realize it at the time. :o

ae

[doinel]

Hey Pjay thanks a lot for introducing me to Ana's belly dancing video. It's hard to believe but I totally ignored it so far. Danke!:)

doinel

[pjay]

Hey Pjay thanks a lot for introducing me to Ana's belly dancing video. It's hard to believe but I totally ignored it so far. Danke!:)
Glad to be of service! Having just seen this week's newsletter, I guess we can add Ava on ukelele to the theoretical AW band :)