Amazing Gracie! ;) [Archive] - abbywinters.com Forum

BigSpud

28th September 2005, 03:52 PM

Hi Gracie and Welcome to the boards!

Are you grateful to John Newton for putting Amazing in front of Grace or do you wish he had never done that?

Clean up what? It all looked fine to me.

Which pics in particular were you blushing at?

You looked like you had fun, was it? Still willing to do it again? If you did do another, what would you do differently?

Thanks for posting,

Spud

gracie_w

28th September 2005, 03:55 PM

Arsby, I'm a model and dancer so it felt like another day at the office to be naked ;)

Bigspud, the beer bottles and left over cigarettes probably could have gone, and I'm blushing at ALL those photos of my arse...like any woman would.
Next time, I'll fake tan ;)

pjay

28th September 2005, 05:31 PM

I'm blushing at ALL those photos of my arse...like any woman would.

Hi Gracie,

I wouldn't have had one photo less :)

Thanks for dropping by. I cannot think of a single non-dumb question to ask you... :(

Darth Dave

28th September 2005, 06:00 PM

Arsby, I'm a model and dancer so it felt like another day at the office to be naked ;)Hi Gracie.

Sounds like a great office. :D

WOW you and Gabrielle chatting with us on the same day what a great day it is.

I loved your shoot and you don’t need to tan I thought that all those shots or your arse were excellent. You looked like you had a lot of fun of in the shoot so I hope that you will come back to do some more shoots maybe even a T3 ;)

Your videos are up on Saturday so I’m really looking forward to that. <3

Dave

calliope

29th September 2005, 12:55 AM

....and I'm blushing at ALL those photos of my arse...like any woman would.

Oh dear.........hope that doesn't mean we're not going to be seeing anymore of it.:eek::(.........It really is marvellous. <3

Like Arsby,I also presumed from your relaxed manner that you probably weren't a total stranger to the camera.

I loved all of your shoot,as you could probably tell from earlier comments.:oYou look a happy soul,with a delicious combination of teasing naughtiness and flirtatiousness,that comes straight through the camera.With some shoots,it's very evident that the model is looking at,or reacting to,the camera,or photographer,and consequently to the viewer it's as though there's a barrier.With practically all of your photos,there's a directness,as though there is no camera,which is much more sparky and engaging.Have you had tips on how to do that,or has it just come with experience of other modelling.?

If you'd care to say,I'd be interested to hear which photo,out of the set,you personally like the most.If you can't choose just one,choose several.

mothra

29th September 2005, 08:28 AM

Next time, I'll fake tan
Nooo!!!!!!

Nice ass, don't mess with it:)

matchless

29th September 2005, 12:13 PM

Hi Gracie and let me add to that thanks for starting your own thread on the boards. I think it's funny, all your comments about blushing while looking at your photo set, fake tanning, too many shots of your bum ... :) Please - with a bum like that, you've no reason to feel anything but pride. Regarding the fake tanning, please don't do it. I'm a member of this site because there is very little fakery going on. And, may I add it's nice to hear you talking about another shoot already ;)

pjay may not want to ask a stupid question but I'm not one to let my inhibitions keep me from posting stupid anything so here goes: where did you get that chair from? It's a classic! What kind of material is it. The green colour really complimented your strawberry blonde hair. And when you don't have a photographer mucking about your living room, is it somewhere else, or perhaps simply turned around to face the fire?

Well, I guess that's quite a lot of stupid questions so I'll just say thanks again and yes, indeed, Keep smiling :D

sterling2

29th September 2005, 12:23 PM

Hi Gracie hope to see more of you here and in those great pic's and maybe a video??

gracie_w

29th September 2005, 04:00 PM

matchless believe it or not the chair CAME with the house! ;) I'm just renting and I got some fairly hideous furniture as part of the deal, that chair included. I think it's cordoroy or possibly ribbed velvet...I have no idea if there is such a thing...and it looks like an op shop job to me. ;) It's just my TV chair mostly, although my housemates and I often fight over it...its way more comfortable than the couch.

Calliope I haven't ever really done any proper modelling training, just this kind of thing and dancing mostly. I'm glad that you connected with it, though. I don't think I have a favourite...although my profile pic on the forums is pretty hot heh

gracie_w

29th September 2005, 04:01 PM

Oh and pjay don't be shy...there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. ;)

matchless

29th September 2005, 05:44 PM

Oh and pjay don't be shy...there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. ;)
And sometimes stupid people ... but I mean that only in a humourous, self-deprecating way :D

matchless

29th September 2005, 05:47 PM

matchless believe it or not the chair CAME with the house! ;)
Thanks for the answer, Gracie. When you put it this way, with the word 'came' in all caps like that, I must say I immediately thought of you doing an IM in said chair :o And I get the funny feeling I'm not the only one ... ;)

gracie_w

30th September 2005, 05:01 AM

That was of course a complete coincidence matchless ;)

Aladin

30th September 2005, 09:00 PM

Gracie,

Your smile is infectious and I was really moved by your bum! (Ah, Ah!)

I love bum sharing.
So thank you !!

matchless

30th September 2005, 10:06 PM

That was of course a complete coincidence matchless ;)
coincidence ...? or Freudian slip ;) Hmmm, slip ... Aaaannnd now my mind is wandering off again ... Please excuse me while I retrieve it ...

:confused:

calliope

1st October 2005, 05:01 PM

As your first video seems to have disappeared before I had chance to see it,I can only comment on the second.

In case I haven't mentioned it before,:rolleyes: I think you're exceptionally lovely,but what struck me about the video,was the same quality as in the photos,ie the ability to come straight through the camera in a very natural relaxed way.Something else that comes over very clearly,is that like a lot of the models,especially the ones that come and chat here,you're an excellent communicator.I love looking at you,in motion,or at rest,but I can honestly say that I could quite happily have listened to your pithy insights and wit,all day,even if you'd been wearing a large overcoat,because you were being animated without being histrionic.That's not to say that I wouldn't have minded seeing more of you sliding down onto your elbows and tummy.:o

On the basis that there are no stupid questions,and if it's not a nosey one,could I ask whether,in addition to your job,you're studying anything in particular,because you strike me as incredibly intelligent.

I loved the little encore you came back and did,it was a beautiful touch.Do you have any ideas for a further shoot/video,which I most certainly hope there will be.?

matchless

1st October 2005, 06:40 PM

I was just reading your handwritten bio again and I have a simple question: what's wrong with wearing black? If there is a next time as you hinted at, go ahead and make it easy on yourself :cool:

matchless

1st October 2005, 07:55 PM

As your first video seems to have disappeared before I had chance to see it,I can only comment on the second.
I just watched them both; it seems the text accompanying the vid files is mixed up, but if you look at the file names, the WMV file is #1 and the MPG is #2. And it looks like there is more coming later tonight, so maybe that when that update is posted, all will be clear.

Now, since I can comment on both vids, I just have to say I really appreciated learning about exotic dancing from the dancer's POV. You are quite the charmer, Gracie and its a shame that you would have a night go to waste simply because your not as well endowed as the other girls. I've known many people who waited tables and with your charm and grace, I think good tips would be guaranteed. And anytime you want to get naked for guys, well just give the good folks at AWHQ a call. We'll be glad you did, or do - when you do, hopefully :p

BTW, you do a really great chicken dance. Those were indeed the correct moves. I'm not a good dancer, but I never miss out on a chance to get down and get chicky with it :D

calliope

2nd October 2005, 12:05 AM

I just watched them both; it seems the text accompanying the vid files is mixed up, but if you look at the file names, the WMV file is #1 and the MPG is #2.

Thank you matchless.This is a worrying development.They seem to be setting intelligence tests for the members,which are bound to expose one or two weaknesses.:o I shall investigate forthwith.

calliope

2nd October 2005, 01:07 AM

Ahhhhh,yes........the fog is lifting.

The first video,like the second,is hilarious.Very witty and entertaining.

I couldn't quite catch what you were saying,near the start of the video,but it seemed to be something that answered a question in my earlier post.It sounded something like "Uni...Bar....management....haven't failed anything yet".

Abby

2nd October 2005, 01:52 AM

I was just reading your handwritten bio again and I have a simple question: what's wrong with wearing black? If there is a next time as you hinted at, go ahead and make it easy on yourself :cool:
Actually, we ask the models to not wear black, as it does not photograph very well... or rather, it did not with our older Canon 1D camera, and it has kinda stuck since then. I should relax this rule now, thanks for reminding me.

a

beanazoid

2nd October 2005, 02:24 PM

Hi Gracie, what a lovely personality you have! I should also point out just a few of your other assets: gorgeous breasts, a wonderful ass, and a great smile!:)
You are a darling, you must do a redux for us!

utta

4th October 2005, 08:38 AM

gracie, you're a lovely gal and I think the bum, is just perfect.

gracie_w

4th October 2005, 08:53 AM

Hi guys,

Calliope I'm studying commerce, it's wonderfully exciting and thanks, I think I'm pretty intellimigent too :P

Thanks for all your lovely comments xoxo

Luxman

4th October 2005, 09:06 AM

Calliope I'm studying commerce,...
Wanna work in a computer business when finished?
I'm waiting for you. :)

Lxm

Luxman

4th October 2005, 10:24 AM

Hi Gracie,

Seeing all the positive comments here, I would ask you what you think about doing a redux shoot?

I'm sure you'll make a bunch of people very happy (me included).

Lxm

Darth Dave

4th October 2005, 11:10 AM

Seeing all the positive comments here, I would ask you what you think about doing a redux shoot?

I'm sure you'll make a bunch of people very happy (me included).Extremely Happy what a great idea.

Dave

stoneyyy

4th October 2005, 05:33 PM

Hi guys,

I think I'm pretty intellimigent too :P

And very Edumacated

gracie_w

5th October 2005, 04:51 PM

We'll see about that when exams roll around.

(eep).

calliope

5th October 2005, 05:06 PM

Another question for you,if I may.

In the video you said you'd never done any dancing before,but had you ever been on stage before,school plays,revues,that sort of thing.?

The reason I ask is that you obviously have bags of confidence,and a lot of talent for humour,visual and verbal,but even so it's most impressive if you just started from scratch without any sort of performing experience.

mothra

6th October 2005, 07:49 AM

Actually, we ask the models to not wear black, as it does not photograph very well... or rather, it did not with our older Canon 1D camera, and it has kinda stuck since then. I should relax this rule now, thanks for reminding me.

aYes, black is cool!:D

mothra

6th October 2005, 07:49 AM

GRacie!!!!!! MMMMmmmmm.....:p

gracie_w

6th October 2005, 04:40 PM

Not really any professional training, unless you count being in the school play in year 7....I was a paige in a shakespeare play and wasn't allowed to speak, move or show emotion. So...no. :P

calliope

8th October 2005, 03:35 PM

....I was a paige in a shakespeare play and wasn't allowed to speak, move or show emotion.

So you were pretty well miscast then.;)

Now,like the chap who wanted you to do a Go-Go dance,I'm probably about to achieve 'total freak' status,but we all have to do etc etc.........

GRACIE - A TALENT TO AMUSE

The evidence is prima-facie.
She's most amusing,is dear Gracie.

And Gracie wiggles when she walks,
she undulates and flows,
She sometimes giggles when she talks,
perhaps because she knows;
Just how to twist us round her finger,
maybe hypnotise,
With saucy looks,and smiles that linger,
way down deep within her eyes.
And Gracie weaves her tales so well,
with words and looks and motion,
That underneath her magic spell,
we fall as if by potion.
And when she sashays down the street,
all the shoppers fazing,
I'd love to see her,just to say,
"You truly are amazing".

gracie_w

10th October 2005, 01:51 PM

I can't believe you wrote me a poem! That's so sweet, thank you

xoxox

calliope

10th October 2005, 02:58 PM

My pleasure Gracie.Hope you liked it.<3

matchless

1st November 2005, 09:47 PM

Hi Gracie. It's funny how you've been so busy posting everywhere else and your own thread has trailed off ...;)

You posted this in another thread and I said I wouldn't post anything more on that thread because it was meant for models, and since I would hate to go back on my word, I'll copy what you said and post it here:
I could, and then get myself a nice hard fail...the uni catches so many people doing that and I can't imagine why anyone would...apparently one girl a few years ago who did the same subject as me copied and pasted everything out of wikipedia and failed her entire year. I don't know why you'd bother, especially when it costs so much! You might as well pay attention for $10 grand a year.
This statement is further proof of your fine qualities as a person beyond just your good looks. I was not the best student, mostly due to procrastination and skipping classes I didn't like instead of just dropping them. One thing I never did though was plagiarize. Of course, when I was going to college, we had to get our information out of books.

I remember one class where I had taken an incomplete and put off writing the paper I needed to get my grade until the last minute. It was a philosophy class and I filled the paper with a bunch of quotes just to pad it out; I knew it was shit but I just wanted it to be done. The Prof. gave me a B-minus and I actually told him I thought he was being too generous. I was like, "but this paper is crap; it's all quotes." And he just looked at me and says, "why are you arguing with me?" To which I didn't have much of a response :p

Some of my favourite professors were in the philosophy dept. :cool:

p.s. - when I went to uni it only cost a little over 1k a semester (but that was a state school) which is probably why I took 8 years to finish ... in my defense: those last four years were only part-time and I also went through three majors along the way.

blissed

1st November 2005, 10:52 PM

I didn't know there was another Gracie thread. Thanks for bringing it back up matchless. We can post in here, and only post in the models thread if it starts to sink. I did Graphic design, so I didn't write many essay's and when I did they a would always expect over 1000 words at least. Nobody said, analyse a subject and then encapsulate your thoughts as succinctly as possible. If they did, that would prepare people better, because that's what you have to do when your working.
That was my experience anyway. I don't want to make anyone jealous, but my education was freeeeeee :cool: :cool: :)

gracie_w

2nd November 2005, 01:01 AM

Haha, I love philosophy lecturer's, they're the best! In first year I did one philosophy subject to pad out my degree basically, and it was so awesome...such a change from talking about workplace policy...I think I was the only one even remotely enthusiastic about any of it, haha.

I agree blissed, I think essays are much more useful than exams, because exams are such a strange environment that you won't find yourself in again, but your boss will probably always ask you to write a report, or analyse a piece of writing, and set you a deadline to do it. Plus it's about a tenth as stressful, ha.

Martyhulk

2nd November 2005, 03:00 PM

Hey Gracie

Is your degree more accountancy-based or economics and finance based? I did an economics degree but there were people around me who did commerce degrees and were mostly doing economics subjects. My university (the largest regional one) back then was filled with lefties. I went to a thing in Canberra one time and there were all these people who were at Monash and Melbourne and Sydney Unis who all had more mainstream lecturers, and I thought "how will I ever get a job as an economist with my pedigree?" But I have worked as a real economist doing public policy for almost 9 years now! Do you have many exams? I used to get so stressed over exams that I would be physically ill. Not a good way to go into an exam room!

I was wondering, when you are giving private shows, have you ever had guys play with themselves, or do they alway just look? Do you ever just have a nice chat?

Hey I am coming to Melbourne soon - what's the best area to go out in?

All the best with your exams and essays.

Love

Martyhulk

Duaane

3rd November 2005, 03:11 AM

Dear Amazing Gracie:

As I age I get less and less chance to ask the all important questions.

The one I have for you is here 2 dancers I have meet (on dated), said they would never date a guy/customer, she seen in a strip club. What is your outlook on this ?

I also noted (the ones I know/knew) were a little jellous (ok a lot jellous), do to their work enviorment it made them question all men. What is your in-put on that?

Sorry your one of the only people I know to ask if the above is an international thing, or just a local (as far as my limited brain seen. Hope you dont mind if I ask.

Duaane

gracie_w

3rd November 2005, 04:12 AM

Actually marty I'm majoring in oh&s and hr/recruitment...there's a lot of policy and a bit of psych which I like quite a bit. I'm thinking of going into hr maybe one day, but who knows. My uni is unfortunately full of righties, and its student election time right now...the more pamphlets I get shoved in my hands the less likely I'm going to vote for them, hehe...
I have a few exams, and yeah I do get stressed...it's not fun for anyone.

All of the clubs that I worked at strictly forbade guys touching themsleves because it violates the liscence, you need to be a brothel to let them do that. I'd also find it deeply gross and I wouldn't want to go anywhere near it. I did meet a few guys who paid me to chat, yes, and it was lovely! We need more guys like that, damnit.

Hmm...there are a few good bars in the cbd...Bond is a favourite, as is Loop...its an arty sort of place but the beers are good. You should also check out the Deanery.

gracie_w

3rd November 2005, 04:14 AM

I have dated a customer twice, and I wouldn't recommend it. Both times I wondered if they ever saw me as more of a dancer then a person. A lot of people get hung up on it and somehow think that it immediately makes me incredible in bed, and so I feel a lot of pressure to perform...which is the last thing I want to do because I perform all the bloody time! ;)

I don't question all men, because I don't think its cheating. I think its natural and normal for people to look at naked chicks, why wouldnt you?

Thats ok, I like questions :)

blissed

3rd November 2005, 09:36 PM

All of the clubs that I worked at strictly forbade guys touching themsleves because it violates the liscence

Surely there must be a lot of guys with one hand in their pocket. If their sat at tables with one hand under the table, how do you know what their doing with it. I expect the ban is on overtly touching yourself, but there must have been guys who've been sat in the club and cum, and desperately tried to disguise it. If you ever saw me in a club, I'd be easy to spot because I'd be the one with a red sweaty face.
Talking of h&s, the clubs and bars are going to be smoke free from next July. That would be the single biggest thing that would decide whether I kept on dancing or not. in GB we've got to wait till 2007, then perhaps I could simply go out for a drink.

gracie_w

5th November 2005, 02:42 AM

Well I know for sure that if any dancer saw a guy doing it he'd be out of there in a second...under the table or in a private room. Strip clubs are supposed to be about dancing and hanging out with hot chicks, plus a bit of a tease on the side. Most guys are there for conversation or to feel close to a woman...if you're there to get your rocks off then you're pretty much in the wrong place, and should try a brothel instead.

Sorry I dont mean to lecture but I come up against this quite often and it gets my (and every dancer I know) blood boiling.

BigSpud

5th November 2005, 09:43 AM

I remember when I "lost it". I was sitting there at the dance bar and was nursing a drink. There had been several dancers and it was a nice show.

The next dancer had a little different shape to her boobs and when she got in front of me she took one nipple and squeezed out a long stream of milk. I had never seen that in person before and the peter-meter was at 200% and climbing totally hands free. After she finished dancing, I quietly left.

:o

Luxman

5th November 2005, 09:49 AM

... peter-meter was at 200% and climbing totally hands free.
Is the "Peter-Meter" something like the Dow Jones? :)

Lxm

blissed

5th November 2005, 01:27 PM

Sorry I dont mean to lecture but I come up against this quite often and it gets my (and every dancer I know) blood boiling.

That's OK, You know I'm only kidding. The only experience I've had of dancing is second hand stories, and I know it's probably a bit different to your dancing, but a little while ago a load of women from work went to see some male strippers. One of them was sitting enjoying the show and one of the guys came up to her and took her glasses off as if to say look how beautiful you are, then stuck them up his ass. He then put them in her drink.:) Apparently everyone was really drunk, volunteers kept going up on stage, and they all thought the whole evening was hilarious. The code word for the evening was BMW (black man's willy) and people would drop BMW into conversations with customers to try and make each other laugh. I know it's a little bit different to your dancing but It's interesting from the stories how different the atmosphere is on a male stripper night
without even the hint of any threat to the strippers.

I had never seen that in person before and the peter-meter was at 200% and climbing totally hands free.

I've never had a waking orgasm totally hands free, at least you stayed on your feet didn't you :)
Oh no, I've just read it again, you were sitting down. Good job.

gracie_w

6th November 2005, 05:32 AM

It must be something about male strippers not being under threat, you're right...or maybe its because women mostly go to the male strippers in parties or to have a laugh, whereas guys often go by themselves and for different reasons. Interesting point, though, definately pause for thought.

blissed

7th November 2005, 02:41 AM

What about a girls only lesbian bi strip night. I bet that would be a lot fun too.

gracie_w

7th November 2005, 11:47 AM

yeah that would probably be dirtier than anything else, haha. In my experience the lesbian customers are always the most out there, and definately the most fun to dance for :)

laevis

16th November 2005, 04:41 PM

Seeing Gracie on AW is such an amazing experience! Gracie is so unbelievably pretty; I could look at her all day long. I also LOVED the two videos that she made. She's got such a winning personality and a humor that makes you smile the whole time you're watching. Thanks Gracie! I truly hope to see much-much more of you here!

In following with recent tradition, here are my vehicles... A 1959 Jeep Willys and a 2000 Toyota Tundra. I'm not trying to impress, necessarily, just express my favorite type of ride.

matchless

16th November 2005, 05:29 PM

Oooh, two tone. I'm not impressed :cool:

j.k. :) I love old cars that still run. Wish I knew enough about mechanics to have a few cars like that myself, but I don't know what I'd do with them without having a driveway or yard to park them at ...

gracie_w

16th November 2005, 05:54 PM

Thats ok matchless I dont even know how to pop my hood.

Why did that sound dirty?

Luxman

16th November 2005, 07:15 PM

A 1959 Jeep Willys...
That was a good year. :)

Lxm

laevis

17th November 2005, 12:33 AM

Hey -- THANKS Lxm for directing me to the proper thread! I wish I had been around in '59... All signs point to it being in a generally better era. Troubled era? No question. Problems? Absolutely. Every era has its drawbacks. But, I miss the broader sense of innocence and freedom that supposedly accompanied the days of old.

It's funny, matchless, that you should point out my Jeep's paint job. I've noticed in my travels that men seem to prefer one solid color, whereas women like the two tone paint job better. I have no statistics to back me and no particular conclusion to draw from that, but I wonder why that little piece of trivia holds true in most cases?

What do you like best, Gracie? Two tone or one on the old Willys? Doesn't that sound dirty? I guess that's a clear difference between 1959 and today. Kill Bill had its "Pussy Wagon" which would have been relatively innocent in '59. But, even odder, I have my "Willys Wagon" which was completely innocent in '59, but has a much different connotation today. Such as, I drive around in my Willys Wagon looking for d**k; another word that was simply another name in '59. I don't even know a Richard. In this context I don't care to!

Luxman

17th November 2005, 07:18 AM

...I have my "Willys Wagon" which was completely innocent in '59,...
As far as I remember, I was completely innocent too in '59.

Lxm

matchless

17th November 2005, 12:40 PM

Thats ok matchless I dont even know how to pop my hood.

Why did that sound dirty?
Well, you just have a way with words ... ;)

It's funny, matchless, that you should point out my Jeep's paint job. I've noticed in my travels that men seem to prefer one solid color, whereas women like the two tone paint job better.
Yes, I've always been in touch with my feminine side. I sometimes think it has something to do with being the youngest of four boys (the oldest being only 5 years and two days older) -- like maybe I became the daughter my parents never had :confused: I always wished I had a sister, but at least I've had a really cool Canadian sister-in-law for the last decade.

laevis

17th November 2005, 09:55 PM

Oooh, two tone. I'm not impressed :cool:

Yes, I've always been in touch with my feminine side.

I thought you meant that you did not like the two tone :(. An understanding that helped to enhance my point about women liking the two tone better and men preferring one color.
In all honesty, it was a woman who chose the half and half (white/blue). Personally, I'd like to see it in lead gray or racing green, either choice with maybe a thin white stripe along the side. If the wagon starts to rust one of these days, I'll have to reseal it and paint it again!

Anyway, it's excellent that you are in touch with your feminine side. In myself, I find that quality especially helpful in my relationship with my long-time girlfriend -- going on 10 years!

It helps even more when one utilizes their "feminine side" powers! Vis-a-vis I know she really loves it :D when I clean!! I don't always really give a damn, though!

laevis

17th November 2005, 10:04 PM

Hey Gracie! How is the dance business? If I didn't live 20 time zones away from where you work, I'd stop in for a show! And I was just in your vicinity a few months ago, too! By the time I cross the Pacific again, you'll no doubt be out of school. Such is life!

Peter552

17th November 2005, 10:11 PM

I'm thinking of going into hr maybe one day, but who knows.

Please don't, Gracie. I really like you, and nobody likes HR!

(only kidding - some of my best friends are in HR - it's only the head of HR I can't abide) :p

matchless

19th November 2005, 12:53 AM

I thought you meant that you did not like the two tone :(. An understanding that helped to enhance my point about women liking the two tone better and men preferring one color.
In all honesty, it was a woman who chose the half and half (white/blue). Personally, I'd like to see it in lead gray or racing green, either choice with maybe a thin white stripe along the side. If the wagon starts to rust one of these days, I'll have to reseal it and paint it again!

Anyway, it's excellent that you are in touch with your feminine side. In myself, I find that quality especially helpful in my relationship with my long-time girlfriend -- going on 10 years!
I was worried about what the reaction would be to posting my views on YIN/YANG as it relates to me. And I also felt that this is Gracie'e thread and I should just shut up about myself and pay more attention to her :o :D

And as to the original misunderstanding about your two-tone vehicle, all I can say is it's very hard to imply sarcasm in writing. My fault :rolleyes: