Models...in here please...its time for a Serious Discussion ;)

[gracie_w]

Hey girls, I just thought it was about time we started chatting to one another and getting to know each other, seeing as how we've all seen each other naked haha. I'd love to have a regular place to hang out and chat with other lovely like minded ladies, I don't know about you.

Anyway, I thought we could start to get to know each other by having a discussion about boyfriends or girlfriends, and what you'd do if they didn't like you posing on the site. Hopefully this is hypothetical for everyone, but I just wondered if there are some girls out there whose boyfriends or girlfriends don't even know they're up here... or if you're single, whether you'd want your future boyfriends or girlfirneds to know? Is there anyone you wouldn't want to find out about it?

I'd probably tell my boy *if I had one* about the site so that we could be completely honest with each other...but then I don't know what I'd do if he had a problem with it....heh.

[matchless]

Hey girls ... I know I'm not "one of you", but I really like this idea that Gracie had in mind when she started this thread, and ... um, I was just wondering, ya'know, if it's alright with you, if ... well, I could just sort of "listen in" on the conversation ...well, I mean read along ...:rolleyes:... I'll try not to butt in again, um -- yah. So if you're all cool with that, I'll just, um ... I'll just sort of sit over here and, like, read along with all y'all. If ... that's okay, ya'know, with all you pretty girls ...:o

So, um, I'm just gonna sit over here. Don't mind me ... just post like I'm not even here ...

Oh geez ... I hope I didn't just end up looking like an idiot :( ...

[gracie_w]

Aww, matchless you don't look like an idiot at all, and I certainly don't mind...I didnt want this thread to be some sort of exclusive VIP club (unless cocktails are involved, of course, in which case its every man for himself). I'm glad you like my thread, now hopefully someone will post in it!

[matchless]

Someone besides you and me ... :) ... someone who has appeared naked on this site. I do rather like the idea of a thread for voyeurs who just want to listen in on girl-talk ... or girl-typing ... see, babbling again ... :p

I've only been a member here for a short time and have seen a few photo sets get removed from the site at the request of the models. No announcement is made, no reason is ever given and only those with keen eyes and good memories tend to notice when this happens. One assumption is that the model has found a new boyfriend who objected or an old boyfriend found out ...?

I used to say to myself if I ever got involved in a LTR, I wouldn't need to be a member here and would then quit. But since I've become a member of the "doesn't want to leave" club, I've started to hope that this future, hoped-for LTR is with someone who might be willing to join in with me on aw.com, not insist that I resign ...

[gracie_w]

Well there are plenty of girls out there who don't mind porn, or their boyfriends looking at porn, I think it's about confidence really. If you have enough confidence to be able to see that its not that you're lacking something that he needs or you can't give him something, its more than he's just bored haha, or that its just entertainment. I'm sure you'll find her somewhere :)

I can kind of understand that initial want to have the photo sets removed, it is extremely confronting to see yourself in that way, on a website where god knows how many people can ALSO see you in that way...and I can understand that some girls would be very uncomfortable with it. Its the kind of thing where you don't really know how you're going to react to it until it happens, ha. But I certainly had a moment or two of wanting to bury myself under the couch and only ever come out for chocolate and Cosmopolitan Magazine. ;)

[matchless]

So what's the difference between being naked in a strip club and being naked on a website?

[artlover]

On the website no one can stuff dollar bills in your G-string. Or yell stupid things at you.

Abby models--chime in here and save Gracie from the gender that yells stupid things at naked girls! :)

[gracie_w]

The difference is that I don't see myself when I'm dancing in a club, to be perfectly honest. And that makes it a lot less confronting....it would be like video taping yourself masturbating and then watching it back (assuming you haven't already ;) ) It's great when you're doing it, but seeing it is something else entirely.

I don't know if that made any sense, but there you go.

[Luxman]

...it would be like video taping yourself masturbating...
Oh, that's great fun. :o
Even when watching it back.

Perhaps you should do an IM, just to make the experience. :)

Lxm

[gracie_w]

Hah, I've done a beautifulagony and that was more than enough, but nice try ;)

[blissed]

I hope you get some posts from models because I've never appeared naked on this site either. Well perhaps if they had a comedy section I could send some pictures in there.:)
If I had a girlfriend who was posing I'd feel chuffed, like when your going out with someone attractive, your always being told how lucky you are, and that feels good. If she was doing something I thought risky though, I'd have a problem. But if we really liked each other we'd both want each other to be happy, so we'd likely sort something out.
I can't believe you have no-one, I'm celibate at the moment because I haven't long recovered from fatigue syndrome and my libido's a bit late catching up. I do sometimes get lonely and an emotional longing, but on the other hand, I'm free to make any choices I like. Hope you get some nudies posting soon.

[matchless]

Hey Lxm, maybe you could spread the word around Team Abby to send some models who post this way ...? But once we do get models posting here, we boys should probably step aside and listen to [read] what they have to say.
But if we really liked each other we'd both want each other to be happy, so we'd likely sort something out.This is a wonderfully noble sentiment, but I believe that once like or really like turns to love, jealousy will soon catch up to you and start causing problems.
...it would be like video taping yourself masturbating and then watching it back (assuming you haven't already ;))I admit I tried this once, too. I watched it once, decided it was worth doing once and that I should never do it again. I also immediately taped over it. Actually, it took me a long time to get the lighting and the camera angle just right (since I didn't have a tripod, I had to balance the camera, check the monitor, balance again, change the lighting, move the chair, etc., etc., etc. ...:rolleyes: )

[matchless]

... I'd probably tell my boy *if I had one* about the site ...
I was also a bit surprised by this revelation. Then she said this ...
... I'm sure you'll find her somewhere :))
Sigh ... Gracie, my dear, let me explain something. There's a big difference between being 20 years old and being almost 40: having 20 prime years of your life ahead of you. Some people don't want or need to meet the right girl/guy, fall in love, get married, raise kids, but a house, become a family. It would be nice to be one of those people but I'm not. When I was 20, I was sure the right woman would come along, and two years later she did :) but just a few months shy of my 26th b-day, it was over :( and so I kept looking.

There is inspiration behind my username and it has to do with a web site that I was a member of on and off for five years or so - before joining up here. Let me just say this about that period of time: blind dating can be fun, funny, and exciting, but it can also suck :p And so I've finally reached that magic moment where I've given up looking for someone. And if legend goes the way it should, that is when someone will find you [me ... whatever]. And yes, it would probably help if I stopped saying shit like this:
... if I ever got involved in a LTR ...

[Duaane]

Female or male have to love the threads title "in here'

I would add please, or I wish :)

[Duaane]

I agree Gracie, have been both places, and self critizizes myself dancing a lot. Then again at 20 something the women seemed to enjoy it (I hated to concentrate on the dancing nude I would/did loss me semi-hard-on), and looked dumb with out dancing to the music. I give men that try 2x time the credit of a female for that reason. ;)

The difference is that I don't see myself when I'm dancing in a club, to be perfectly honest. And that makes it a lot less confronting....it would be like video taping yourself masturbating and then watching it back (assuming you haven't already ;) ) It's great when you're doing it, but seeing it is something else entirely.

I don't know if that made any sense, but there you go.

[Duaane]

Yes will pay one month subscription here to any man that had sex on stage, with an audience and with-out drugs, could/did keep a hard on, { I am 1 for 3, in that catagory}/

[blissed]

This is the 17th post. No other models have posted, and I'm here contemplating how to keep a hard on while having sex on stage. Do the Abby planning meetings end up like this ? (mine do!)
When your on stage you usually can't really see the faces of the audience because of the house lights, so this helps you relax, and if you dance naked and have sex on stage every night you'll be even more relaxed about it and be able to keep a hard on.
mmmm, I may test this theory and take my next cheap holiday, in Astrakhan.:rolleyes:

[gracie_w]

Heh well this thread has certainly evolved since I was here last ;)

Blissed I think that's a really nice sentiment and it's something that the girls around here would no doubt want to hear...i think its important to find a balance between you and your partner...between being supportive and worried for their safety, haha...obviously I would never do anything that would cause my partner to worry, but then if he were the kind to worry about little things or things that aren't physically dangerous like posing on a website, then maybe there would be problems heh.

Matchless I'm sorry that you've reached the point where you're not looking anymore. I may be only 20 but I'm the kind of girl who is always looking. My friend and I, who is also single, have started developing a theory where there are only two kinds of single people out there...the ones that are lookers and the ones that are waiting to be found...by the sounds of it you've transitioned from the former to the latter! But even though you're not really hopeful anymore I'm still hopeful that you'll find someone. Call it my 20 year old naivity.

[matchless]

Heh well this thread has certainly evolved since I was here last ... But even though you're not really hopeful anymore I'm still hopeful that you'll find someone. Call it my 20 year old naivity.
Well, thanks as always gracie. I didn't say I wasn't hopeful. No matter how depressed, bored, apathetic, tired, stressed, etc. I get I can always count on two things: hope and my sense of humour. Sure, there may be times when I'm the only one laughing, but that just makes it more special :D A friend of mine was telling me this summer that I should start dealing with my shit before I get too close to someone else again. So by not looking, I really mean to say shifting priorities ... for a while.

Okay, so I'm gonna stop posting on this thread for a while and encourage any models who may stumble upon it to follow gracie's lead and not reply to my transgressions. It has been a long day and ... well, it was more like a long two days with a short two hour nap in the middle ... :rolleyes: All you other guys can continue to keep the thread alive until the girls check in. (I was thinking, maybe posting to and starting this thread on Halloween weekend wasn't the best idea -- too many parties and stuff going on to distract folks ...?)

[blissed]

Gracie, I think the last part of the threads title is what's putting the models off. I might be wrong but If it said, Models.... in here please....I have a question for you? I think there may have been a few takers. Perhaps if you message him vid dude could edit it.

Matchless, as all of us over 25 are slowly hit by the ugly stick.:( The older you are, the more a persons got to get to know you to like you. Which is good in a way because all the selfish people who just want to have you, slowly fall away and your left with a much smaller but better choice. So you then have to meet as many people as you can. As we spend so much time at work, I think what you do for a living is really important for the likelihood of any chance encounter. I don't know what you do, but if your a builder or software engineer your likely to be meeting mostly guys and if you work in Retail or Medicine you'll meet a lot more women.
I try not to sound like a know it all guru, but I hope that's helpful.

[gracie_w]

Well the purpose of the thread having that name was to try and be a bit of a smartarse, we'll see how that worked out, haha. Hopefully some of the other girls come in and have a poke around.

[blissed]

While your waiting then. I've just sent a good video clip I've just found to a couple of friends. You might as well see it too if you want to. I put it on my own webspace because the video on ebuamsworld never really works that well. My apologies to the guy in the beard but I guess it's just one of those Alan Partridge type moments that are real. When you get to the page just right click and select "download linked file"

http://www.jlara.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/High%20voice.html

[gracie_w]

Oh my god thats so embarrassing! Haha, but hilarious...the poor guy, he looks so...I don't even know what, angry I guess, ha. I'm sending that to all my mates, that's awesome. haha.

[valerie]

Well hey, to sorta get back to the original questions, thanks Gracie for asking! My husband (fiancé at the time) actually was quite enthousiastic about me modeling nude. I had done some stuff for friends, and worked at a bar wearing little (but more than nothing!) and loved it, and he said if I hadn't started this sort of work soon, he would have suggested it to me anyway! He was even thinking about asking me what I thought of stripping, because he knew i'd get a kick out of it. (I still haven't tried it, don't have time now i guess.)

[gracie_w]

Well it's not like the clubs are going anywhere, I'm sure if you had time in the future you could give it a shot! You'd no doubt have a ball. It's great that your hubby was so supportive with it, I wonder if that's rare?

Do you mind if I ask as well, were the tips good when you were the waitress? ;)

[liandra]

It's a shame but my ex-boyfriend totally skitzed out about my doing this stuff, We're not together anymore, but we are mates, and I have spent many hours explaining my pro-porn, anti-censorship position. He gets it now, for the most part, though he still struggles. He also had problems with my bisexuality, so it was never going to work. I am hoping to find someone (girl or guy) that is as cool about this sort of stuff as Val's hubby is. OOOO...I would lurve to see Val in a strip club, I still think Abby should run with that idea of an natural Abby girl club. I'd be there tucking my money into their ample white cotton knickers.

Hey Val is it true this rumour I hear about you and Abrielle doing a Tier 3? I hope I have broad band before that one comes up. Yum

[falkenhayn]

Hah, I've done a beautifulagony and that was more than enough, but nice try ;)

Hi Gracie
I guess I saw it , really splendid... with a lot of expressions (eg grinning, flaring of your nostrils etc) that are real turn-ons:)

[gracie_w]

That's a really awesome idea! Maybe we could take one over for the night or something, have a special AW strip club extravaganza! I'd be there for sure, haha.

I'm sorry to hear about your ex, but it sounds like you differed on some fairly important points so maybe it's for the best. And well done for remaining friends, I can never do that with my exes! I harbour way too much resentment, heh.
'So Gracie, do you want to go see a movie thursday night?'
'Well you would say that, wouldnt you Mr. Ex....you ruined my LIFE!'

Anyway...heh...here's hoping you find some switched on, funky individual who can appreciate you for your political and arty views :D

[gracie_w]

Aww, shucks...thanks falkenhayn...I was just doing what I do best haha!

[hotdawg]

That's a really awesome idea! Maybe we could take one over for the night or something, have a special AW strip club extravaganza!....
Is that a poll question? Hubby says to put him down for 10 votes for yes....

It's a shame but my ex-boyfriend totally skitzed out about my doing this stuff,

I'm sorry to hear about that as well, when I worked as a community health officer we used to get parents ringing up saying "I found condoms in my 18 year old sons room he must be having sex....." and I would have to try to calmly explain that was a good thing they were practicing safe sex.....not easy......

but we must all must remember that everyone (in AUS at least) has the right to think what they like....

hotdawgwife

[blissed]

I just remembered a couple of weeks ago I ask Gabrielle if she sometimes finds it difficult to reconcile modeling with her own private love life and she said this. (link gets to the page straight away but takes 5 more seconds to find the post) She starts off talking about a balloon.

http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4216&page=2#50

Actually I've just seen your interview video.
When your lapdancing, I just don't know how the guys can not touch you, it can't be a pleasure, in fact it's more like a torture, considering they get slung out if they do.
I'm not sure I could be really aroused in a public place with no outlet for it, I'm sure it's the only place in town with a que for the men's toilet.
What are you doing at uni, if it's good money are you gonna keep dancing after you graduate ?

[gracie_w]

Actually a lot of guys said that about strip clubs, they don't understand it because there are no 'happy endings' so its torture rather than pleasure, but I don't know...I think it's kind of the best tease in the world, and you do get pleasure out of it...because the desire it creates to have what you can't have is incredible. That, in itself, is lovely...but then maybe I'm a sadist haha.

I'm doing commerce at uni, I've actually got a whole load of essays due at the moment which is no doubt why I'm posting so much on the forums, haha...anything ANYTHING to procrastinate. I probably will keep dancing until I find a proper full time career type job, but its good because I don't feel like I have to rush off and take one, I can take my time and find the perfect job for me. That's a real bonus.

[blissed]

Are you going to be off the forum once you've finished your essays, cus that would be a bit of a shame. I'm trying to make my first animated video. So I'm working on that and I check back to several message boards now and again as a sort of a mini break. The biggest one I've seen is a Dutch speaking one. It's a monster.

http://forum.fok.nl/forum/3 (often decides not to work)

I asked what Dutch words they'd like to see used in English, I checked back after 5 mins and I had 8 replies and they just kept coming.
If you want any help with your essays just ask. I'm not a tycoon but I've been working for a while, so there's bound to be stuff I've observed that you can't read about. The competition in the dance club is excellent, looks like you have a lot more fun, and learnt a lot more than you would if you were waiting tables.

[Vid Dude]

Ooh. Animation! Cool.

Coincidentally I'm making 3D graphic versions of our new studio that we'll be moving into someday very soon. I'll be animating a little tour through that once it's ready.

[blissed]

Is that in Sketchup ?

[Vid Dude]

No,in Lightwave.

[gracie_w]

nah, I have a feeling I'll be hanging around long after my essays are done. This place is too addictive!

[falkenhayn]

Aww, shucks...thanks falkenhayn...I was just doing what I do best haha!

Dear Gracie

You're too modest...;

In my opinion, face often is the most erotic part of the body :the eyes of course are important, but the eroticism conveyed by little movements of lips and flaring of nostrils (voluntary or not) should not be neglected.
If you don't have plans for an IM what would you like to do?


I like very much this close up of you and do hope to see more of you...:)

http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=image&index=84&shoot=2526

[blissed]

Yeah I think it is a bit addictive. I only started using them in the past month. I like the expert advice some people give each other with an air of authority. You can see it's come straight off of google because it's so detailed. Actually you don't have to do any essays, you can just paste them off the internet can't you. People today, have just got it so easy.:)

[gracie_w]

I could, and then get myself a nice hard fail...the uni catches so many people doing that and I can't imagine why anyone would...apparently one girl a few years ago who did the same subject as me copied and pasted everything out of wikipedia and failed her entire year. I don't know why you'd bother, especially when it costs so much! You might as well pay attention for $10 grand a year.

[wcoyote]

Hi Gorgeous, love your work. Will you do a girl-girl tier 3 with chloe b?

love,
wile e coyote

[blissed]

I wouldn't mind doing a tier 3 with Chloe. She certainly takes the prize for size.
Though if I had to choose between her and Paula, Chloe would get the elbow :)
sorry Clo.

[evangeline]

I think you need to advertize a bit more! 43 posts and only 3 models!
My boyfriend of the time thought it was great that I was doing nude photos. He kept saying "Yeah, I'm going out with a porn star!" (And yes, I have explained to him that this isn't porn but hey, he was slightly dim!).
A couple of my friends know that I've done nude photos but the others have all been told that I'm an underwear model!If I can be bothered to get another boyfriend anytime soon I will make sure that he knows about the photos because I'd feel bad if I kept it from him. And if he has a problem with it.... actually, I wouldn't know what to do. It's part of my past and I'm not ashamed of it but I know that not everyone has the same way of seeing it. I don't think I'd go as far as asking for the pictures to be removed.... after all, members may have downloaded them so they'd still be in circulation. I really don't know....

[josephine_s]

Ooooh, hi Gracie! What an interesting topic for discussion!

I've always told everyone I've dated since I started doing nude modeling what I do and what sites I'm on. I started nude modeling with suicidegirls, and my boyfriend at the time (when I applied and started modeling there) was completely good with it...he even shot my first couple of sets, including two multi-girl sets that pretty much included me getting it on with other girls right in front of him! I think he was lucky in that regard! :)

My current boy is great with it too, and has taken some sets for me for various sites (none of which have been accepted yet). He really wished he could've come along with me to AW headquarters to be around for shooting the sets there! I think he might have been more uncomfortable with my modeling for nude sites if he hadn't have met some of the most awesome people he knows through places like SG. Many of my best friends I've met through there, including the girl who introduced us (and who he got to have his first threesome with...with me! That's how we met in fact. That's romance for you!)

I've only had one boy be uncomfortable with it, and he was very unhappy about it. Same with my tattoos. I basically told me he had to accept me as is or find someone else.

[gracie_w]

That's fantastic, you're so lucky to have met TWO guys who are cool with it, hah and by the sounds of it you got a little something out of his acceptance too! ;) Threesomes are always fun, we should start a yay for threesomes thread! haha.

I love suicidegirls as well, that site is so empowering and awesome. Congrats for getting on there, I imagine there must have been some stiff competition (pardon the pun).

Haha evangeline I have the same reaction when I meet guys that find out that I dance...they're always like 'Yeah! I bagged a stripper!' This may have something to do with my choice of guys, but still...I find that really irritating, because I never know if they want to date me for who I am, or me for what I do. I really don't want to be anyone's trophy. Anyway, thanks for posting in my thread! ;)

[josephine_s]

That's fantastic, you're so lucky to have met TWO guys who are cool with it, hah and by the sounds of it you got a little something out of his acceptance too! ;) Threesomes are always fun, we should start a yay for threesomes thread! haha.

I love suicidegirls as well, that site is so empowering and awesome. Congrats for getting on there, I imagine there must have been some stiff competition (pardon the pun).


We SHOULD have a threesomes thread, several of my best experiences have been threesomes. Worst ones too, though! But I like that i met a boy through one.

SG is indeed really really awesome. When I applied, competition wasn't quite as crazy, but I was still quite surprised to be accepted!

[gracie_w]

Several of my best experiences have been in threesomes too, but then one also tragically ended my first relationship, heh...bit of a double edged sword I guess you could say!

You shouldn't be surprised you sexy minx :D

[susie]

Ok, its time for me to post in your lovely thread now Gracie!

I can unequivocally say that my worst sexual experience was a threesome - I'll never go there again! Power to those that do though, half ya luck!

Sus

[josephine_s]

I had a threesome situation end a relationship as well. I figure it was all for the best in the end, but it really really hurt at the time. Made me wary of threesomes for quite a while!

Yay, Gracie thinks I'm sexy! *hearts*

[gracie_w]

Hehe ok I'm starting the thread now, there are clearly far too many juicy stories that demand to be told!

*hearts to josephine*

[josephine_s]

Let's make out, Gracie!

[gracie_w]

Hah! Ok!

*big sloppy pash*

[hotdawg]

I had a threesome situation .....


hotdawgwife: There's an idea for a AW.com christmas party.....abby and crew can bring the gear and shoot and video us girls having an orgy and the boyfriends/hubbys'/partner's can sit around and drink beer and watch.......

Sounds fun to me......:eek: I'll mention it to hubby when he gets home and see what response I get.....hehehe

Anyway, I guess that threesomes, foursomes and moresomes are for when you are really secure in your relationship with each other. We also found that if we knew the person/couple outside of nookie times that the "threat" level if you want to call it that was less....

[josephine_s]

Hah! Ok!

*big sloppy pash*

HOT!

We need a camera!

<3

[valerie]

Well it's not like the clubs are going anywhere, I'm sure if you had time in the future you could give it a shot! You'd no doubt have a ball. It's great that your hubby was so supportive with it, I wonder if that's rare?

Do you mind if I ask as well, were the tips good when you were the waitress? ;)

Yeah my Hubby rocks. I am so lucky! Then again I let him check out any woman and talk to me about how hot she is, etc. I do the same for guys, though...not often, but I don't deny it when it does, you know? There was some quote I heard long ago: "The moment a [straight] man stops noticing beautiful women is the moment there's something wrong with him." It's natural, it's gonna happen, why make him feel ashamed for his own nature?

And oh my god were the tips good. I was making $7/hour wages (realllllly high for a shit bar in the middle of nowhere) and normally $7/hour in tips average, with most of that coming in a short period. ...then I came to Australia where there's a minimum wage that's also a living wage and it all looks like peanuts.



It's a shame but my ex-boyfriend totally skitzed out about my doing this stuff, We're not together anymore, but we are mates, and I have spent many hours explaining my pro-porn, anti-censorship position. He gets it now, for the most part, though he still struggles. He also had problems with my bisexuality, so it was never going to work. I am hoping to find someone (girl or guy) that is as cool about this sort of stuff as Val's hubby is. OOOO...I would lurve to see Val in a strip club, I still think Abby should run with that idea of an natural Abby girl club. I'd be there tucking my money into their ample white cotton knickers.

Hey Val is it true this rumour I hear about you and Abrielle doing a Tier 3? I hope I have broad band before that one comes up. Yum

I wonder what the reactions would be like if some of the stippers at the local clubs around here took off their undies (let's say boy-short style) and OHMIGOD they had full bushes. ...and hairy armpits. I know you guys, the members here, some of you would LOVE it (though if the knickers are off where do they stuff the bills?), but i wonder about the other club-goers...the "regulars"

And YES Abrielle and I ...oh my god... She came in for something and was chatting with Susie in the lobby bit and I sat down next to Abrielle and said hi and we were sitting all chummy...Susie says "do you two want to do a Tier 3 together" and I look at her and she says "yeah, i'd do it" (thump thump pant pant) and i just swallowed and nodded hard.

It's different because I know her, you know? When I was with Jade (T), we had never met, more like a one-night stand.

Do you have any feelings on this, on one-nighters vs knowing you're going to see the partner again (outside of shoots as well of course!)

[valerie]

Oh woah. The conversation has moved on, Valerie. Shit I'm always doing this.

[stoneyyy]

Keep going Val

[gracie_w]

Well, I've only ever had one one-nighter, and a few one nighters with the same person...that sounds weird, but each time we thought it was the last haha. Its more intense if its a one nighter, but if you're in it long term then you know its for real, and there's that great feeling of intimacy and affection, and there's nothing better than him whispering he loves you while you come all over him haha.

Sorry that got really porny, I got carried away :)

[Martyhulk]

Haha evangeline I have the same reaction when I meet guys that find out that I dance...they're always like 'Yeah! I bagged a stripper!' This may have something to do with my choice of guys, but still...I find that really irritating, because I never know if they want to date me for who I am, or me for what I do. I really don't want to be anyone's trophy. Anyway, thanks for posting in my thread! ;)

Hi gracie. I think that your combination of sex appeal and brains is just so hot!!!

Just wondering, what is your "choice of guys"?

I reckon I'd date you becasue of your looks, brains and the fact that we'd be able to have really cool discussions about the issues of the day. As an economist, I could make my disparaging accountants jokes and you could make disparaging economist jokes. It would be cool fun!!!!

I love the way you write (hope your lecturers like it too). Looking forward to seeing more of you soon.

Love

Martyhulk

[gracie_w]

My choice of guys is generally haphazard...I tend to go for guys that seem aloof and interesting, but then it turns out they're just arseholes, haha. I tend to date by reaction, that is each new person is a reaction to the last one. So if I date a sports fan then my next guy will be anti-sport. I dunno, its weird. hehe.

Aww and thanks for your lovely words :)

[Luxman]

...my next guy will be anti-sport.
I'm anti-sport!!

Lxm

[Rubarack]

I'll see you anti-sport, and raise you seem aloof and interesting but in reality am just an arsehole.

[matchless]

I know I said I wasn't going to post here again, but as long as the thread is off and running now ... I just had to get in on the bidding. Not only am I anti-sport (more or less), aloof and interesting, I'm weird, too and I'm only an ass once in a while so with any luck, I'll be the last :D

Speaking of guys who turn into assholes, I have a theory about that. If a guy is an ass most of the time, but once in a while does something really sweet, women will say, "You know, he's really a nice guy once you get to know him better." But, if your nice most of the time, and once in a while you do something stupid and/or rude, she'll say, "Deep down inside, he's just an ass."

[gracie_w]

Hehe, there are a lot of girls in the world who are only ever attracted to arseholoes, which I think is a real shame. There's definately an appeal to a 'bad boy', but then you usually get treated like crap so I don't see how its worth it. I've of course been there and done that, and now I'm looking for a nice guy...even if he is an arse deep down ;)

But I am actually seeing a guy right now, he's two months old...british, with short hair...cute little streaks in his hair...likes to purr in my ear. ;) It's love, for sure.

[Peter552]

But I am actually seeing a guy right now, he's two months old...british, with short hair...cute little streaks in his hair...likes to purr in my ear.

Gracie, did you have a baby, or are you dating a baby..??

[matchless]

... he's two months old...british, with short hair...cute little streaks in his hair...likes to purr in my ear. ;) It's love, for sure.
I've been thinking of getting one of those for myself ... maybe two. But not so we can have a threesome :eek: just so they can keep each other company when I'm away at work. I'm almost sure if I did get cats that I would finally fall in love with someone ... who's allergic to them ... :rolleyes:

[gracie_w]

What baby do you know that purrs? :P

[matchless]

Somewhere on here there's a thread to post pictures of your pets. Be sure to do so someday, gracie, or even better, include him in your next shoot for Abby :)

[valerie]

Gracie is that a riddle? Rubarack that was absolutely hilarious. I always laugh when I read the forums, all you kids! It's like a treat for me when I finish most of my other duties.

I remember a few one-night stands where the guy was going through what was obviously his "routine" that he had picked up in some magazine. Kiss here for 2 minutes, then the left nipple for a suck and nibble the right, stroke her belly, then move down...

Maybe it was a spontaneous, throes-of-passion sort of thing, but don't we all secretly crave our partners to be SO taken with us that they totally lose control and go wild, surprising themselves with where they kiss next etc? I don't mean that it has to be Extreme Sex or anything, but I think there's a sort of hope you have of something so sigularly intense...

[blissed]

or even better, include him in your next shoot for Abby :)

So are Abby models going to start playing with their pets on camera ? :eek: No, I'm not even going there....:)

but I think there's a sort of hope you have of something so sigularly intense...
Valerie isn't their an in built unashamed selfishness about sex. If you try to please, they get bored, but If your really attracted and you totally indulge your passion and ravage someone they love it. yeah, when your passion is aroused indulge yourself.

[gracie_w]

Oh, why would anyone want to watch me play with my pussy?



Sorry, couldnt resist.

[matchless]

For an example of how including your pet in a photo shoot can add to the fun, check out Zoe_P's (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=969) set. :)

[blissed]

Oh, why would anyone want to watch me play with my pussy?

I would if it looked like this.

[Icarus]

Gracie I know I'm a little late with this observation, but you mentioned your new 'guy' is British... How do you know? Does he keep mentioning the weather, or set out each morning with a bowler and briefcase?..

And before any Brits have a go at me for reinforcing national stereotypes, I'm a Brit too... I'm being self-deprecating... And stuff...

[gracie_w]

1702

Well this is him when I first got him, his name is Napoleon so I guess he's half french half british. How did I know he was a pom? By the way he said everything was 'simply frightful' when he got home. And yes, the bowler hat was a dead giveaway also.

[beanazoid]

Gracie, your kitten Napoleon is SO Cute!

[blissed]

He does look really cute, but does he ever bring you back little presents, like a half killed bird or rabbits head ?

[gracie_w]

He's too little, at the moment he just hunts pen lids and bits of string for me. I guess it's the thought that counts?

Bean don't be fooled, he may be cute but he's also a little terror. I love him anyway, though. Trust a pet of mine to turn out to be cheeky and obnoxious ;)

[Icarus]

"Simply frightful?" We never say that here in blighty. Well, nearly never.... Once every couple of hours, tops...

I suppose I asked for it though... In any case, I'll let you off, because your pic is so cute... The kitten is pretty sweet too... ;)

[gracie_w]

Hehe sorry, what would have been more appropriate? 'Sod off you plonker?' 'Allo allo allo, whats all this then?' hehehe the stereotypes are endless, mate ;)

[Icarus]

They're all good Gracie - and so true... ;) Have you ever been to the UK? I'd love to stay and chat, but I've got to go - High tea on the croquet lawn, don't you know, fnarr fnarr...

Just noticed I haven't thanked you for your set - not very gentlemanly... So, thanks Gracie - love the pics - you can insult my nationality anytime you like... within reason... ;)

[gracie_w]

Heh I have been to England twice, in fact...as you can probably tell by the blonde hair/pale skin/blue eyes I'm northern european, and when I was 6 the family and I went to meet our relatives, and we had a stop over in London for a while. I thought it was pretty cool, not that I can remember much, but there are of course the obligatory pics of me on the big lions outside buckingham palace with my sister.

And I am of course equally busy wrestling crocs and making damper, so crikey better get back to it, ay?

[Icarus]

We're such ambassadors for our countries aren't we Gracie? ;)

Glad you liked London, and the lions... Is that where your love of cats started? ;)

[gracie_w]

Hehe well from memory the lions were stinkingly hot and burnt me when I touched them, so perhaps not ;) And now that I think about it, I also had a minor emergency in Bloomingdale's when I ate some icecream that had bits of broken china in it...which I thought at the time were iceblocks. Mum dragged me halfway around the place to try and find the doctors room and when we got there all he said was 'well, we'll see in 24 hours what it was.'
Bloody English :P

[gracie_w]

Sorry, not Bloomingdales...Harrods. You know what I meant.

[Icarus]

Okay... So, when are you planning your next visit then Gracie? ...

Sounds like you'd be safer wrestling those crocs... ;)

[gracie_w]

Haha I dunno, sometime next year when I've finished uni maybe? ;) You got any plans?

[Icarus]

I'm really keen to travel, and Australia is definitely on the list, as well as Africa, Canada, most of Europe, Russia, Japan... The list goes on... Just a question of finding the time and the money...

I'm glad that your experiences of England aren't stopping you considering a return visit... Just steer clear of those lions... ;) Are you hoping to travel quite a bit when you've finished your studies?

[Peter552]

Hehe well from memory the lions were stinkingly hot and burnt me when I touched them


The Lions weren't quite so hot when they went Down Under...:p

Anyone willing to take a bet on Ireland beating the All Blacks?

[gracie_w]

I'm going to Japan next year which is going to be completely awesome *but expensive* and then if I have anything left I'd love to back to europe, see south america, maybe spend some more time in the US. I've also always wanted to drive around Australia with my mates, one big roadtrip, i think that'd be awesome hehe.

Peter I'm assuming thats a sport reference, hehe...

[beppe]

Hi Gracie, you to be my preferred one!!! You would come living in Italy? :p
I am curious.... Your parent has known of the photos that you to have made?

[gracie_w]

No way they don't know and lets all pray they never find out! That would be too weird.

[blissed]

They know about your dancing though.

[gracie_w]

Nope, wouldnt want them to know about that either. They wouldn't understand.

[blissed]

You won't have to keep it a secret for ever. The older you get over 30 the less they could give a toss what you do, especially if it's something you've done ages ago.
How did you find out about Abby & how did you get into the dancing, did you answer an ad in the paper.

[gracie_w]

I got into dancing because a friend of mine was doing it and recommended it, basically. She was working at a club in the city that needed some girls so she got me an audition which was really nice of her, and the rest is history ;)
I found out about abby in an add in the paper, yes...and then they put me on to beautifulagony and ISM.

[stoneyyy]

I should answer abbys ad in the newspaper lol

[blissed]

You could post a pic here as an audition.:)

[blissed]

I got into dancing because a friend of mine was doing it and recommended it, basically. She was working at a club in the city

I remember now, you did say that in your video. I don't remember anything if it happened more than 5 mins ago.
That must be a pretty good feeling getting an Abby shoot, as she's interviewing 50 girls a week.
What's your name in ISM.

[Luxman]

I don't remember anything if it happened more than 5 mins ago.
Hey, that's cool. You only need to buy one DVD, and until the end of your life you have every day a new movie to watch. :)

Lxm

[blissed]

Not literally. I remember my name, and where the Abby bookmark is :)

[gracie_w]

Well thats all you need ;) I'm Grace on ISM, not surprisingly!

[beppe]

Thanks....... When Will You Do A Redux With Explicite Photography?

[blissed]

Well thats all you need ;) I'm Grace on ISM, not surprisingly!

Found the file and got a bit carried away. I always do. It's a bit fussy, but could make a magazine spread.
Would need a bit of work to make a calendar. That's what you should go for next :)
It's a nice set of shots though isn't it.

[gracie_w]

Hehe hey thats awesome, nice work! ;) Calender, eh? *evil thoughts* heh

[blissed]

I've been doing this video most of today. I looked at your folio and thought I'd play around with it for 10 mins and 40mins later I had to stop and get on with what I'm supposed to be doing. When I do graphics, design workouts go on and on for hours. Actually, do you ever write in the ISM forum, it's a bit dry sometimes, but it's good for hearing explicitly about other peoples sexual experiences.
I'm feeling sorry for myself today. My libido was depressed when I had fatigue syndrome, it's on it's way back now, but it's still got a little way to go. I've been on my own for ages, and tonight, I'm feeling like a definite class A wanker :)

[caveboyreturns]

Excuse me for butting in but can someone please tell me what ISM stands for?

Institute of Management Studies? I think not.

I wanna see more of gorgeous Gracie.

[Luxman]

ISM = I Shot Myself (www.ishotmyself.com)

Lxm = Luxman :)

[Vid Dude]

Poor Luxman has to tell people what ISM is three times a week. Perhaps we need a FAQ thread.

[caveboyreturns]

Poor Luxman has to tell people what ISM is three times a week. Perhaps we need a FAQ thread.
.. or at least a list of frequently-used abbreviations. Actually Vid Dude I reckon that would be quite a good idea, because as someone who is still fairly new to this board, there are so MANY "in" abbreviations it sometimes feels like I'm reading a foreign language.

Apologies Luxman but if its worth anything you've made my day ;)

[takochan]

I'm Grace on ISM, not surprisingly!

...and may one ask your BA number?

Please tell (pretty please, with organic strawberries on top:))

takochan

[gracie_w]

277 ;)

[takochan]

277 ;)
Ah yes, I see that now. Thank you!!

(later)
...and what a beauty too!!!!!

takochan:)