A question for the models who've done a GG shoot

[gracie_w]

Hey girls, I've not done a GG shoot before but I'm thinking about it, and I'm wondering what its like...how did you feel doing it? Was it weird having to make out and have sex with a girl you didnt know? And did the cameras make you uncomfortable? I'm just curious about whether you think it's worth doing or not, and I'd like to hear about your experiences, how it felt etc.

Cheers!
Gracie
xoxox

[susie]

Doing my GG with Petra was one of the best days of my life - I don't care how badly she hurt me!

s

[chimmy]

Doing my GG with Petra was one of the best days of my life - I don't care how badly she hurt me!

I'd like to divert from this threads intended topic for just a moment to say.....

Susie, Seeing your GG with Petra was on of the best days of MY life too :)

Chimmy

[Margaret]

Hiya

Doing my GG shoot with Amy was a wonderful experience. I hadnt made love to a girl before or even kissed a girl before and she was just absolutely stunning. Before the filming and the photo shoots we were both so very very nervous but as soon as we first kissed it felt like magic. Like we had been friends and lovers for a long time. The way her lips pressed against mine and all over my body was amazing. During filming i didnt even notice the camera, we felt so passionate and i got really involved. I was wrapped that Amy made me orgasm and i got her there too. To feel the vibrations was electric.

I really did think Amy was so very very hot and so sexy so it made it easier, i felt attracted to her.

It is definitely worth it!!! Do it! Amazing experience that i will treasure forever.

Love Margaret ;)

[blissed]

I know I'm not an expert on this and a great many other things, but I know that if I put myself in the position of someone who applies to AW and out of many others gets excepted to do a shoot. If I was considering going down on a another girl my biggest concern would be that I could get hepatitis B. I've read that it's a slight risk and if people do this in their own love life then they've assessed the risk and are OK with it. I'd personally like to use a shear dam, especially as I'd never even met the person before. I think Hep. B has a 3 month incubation period, so testing can produce a false result. I really don't mind seeing a dam used in shoots and videos. I don't want to be alarmist and I don't know if I'm being over cautious, because like I said I'm not an expert, so I don't know how slight or remote the risk is. Just that it's there.

[Vid Dude]

All our models are thoroughly tested before a GG shoot.

[gracie_w]

To be honest, blissed, withoutt insinuating anything about aw or the models, that would be a worry of mine too. It's more an issue of chances, and the more people you have sex with the higher the chance of catching something, in my mind. Then again that's pretty negative, but I'm trying to be as honest and open as possible, hehe.

I guess my biggest concern would be the whole having sex with a stranger thing...I don't know, it would just feel kinda weird. Then again I don't really know because I've never done one. But thanks Margaret anyway for your insight, it's interesting to hear how it is for models who've done it before. :)

[treetops]

I don't know if this will help in any way, but I wanted to set up a GG experience for my GF as I was certain she would enjoy being with another woman but was also worried about her getting into it for the first time especially with a strange girl. So I blindfolded her before the other girl came into the room so her first moments were focused on touch and scents instead of having to cope with meeting a stranger (especially another girl) and after a few minutes of kissing and stroking (as only another girl can) by the time the blindfold came off she was completely sold on the idea and well into it so it was a big success.

[gracie_w]

That's a very sexy idea ;) And I have had sex with a girl before, I actually had a girlfriend for two years, its just the idea of not knowing them that gets me. I dunno, I'd like to hear from more of the models on this one...

[darcy]

Firstly can I second that treetops idea was very sexy!!!
Miss Gracie....
-I've never been one for sex with strangers, so it was very weird and a little uncomfortable (at first) having sex with someone I had never met - not knowing what turns them on and being worried that I wouldn't know what to do (though you being with a girl before may kind of ease that tension). Susie and Penny make it a lot easier by ummm just by being their wacko selves. And the other girl will probably feel the same way and it does get easier as the shoot progresses.
-Are you uncomfortable in front of the cameras usually? I think you kind of forget about them after a while, although it was really hard for me not to look at them during the video!
-If your worried about catching something I'm sure you could do a 'no tounges' setup! Also you can get immunised against Hep B (I'm fairly sure its Hep B). If you've left the country recently chances are you are anyway.
-Speaking of diseases, getting the tests done was really the only bad thing about my T3. They couldn't find my vein and it took them a good 15 mins to get enough blood! Now I'm pretty tough until it comes to blood and needles and veins, I actually cried! On top of that the crappy doctor I went to thought I was a prostitute and tried to tell me that printing the results wasn't covered under medicare! She was a neuter (anyone who hasn't seen 'A Dirty Shame' should!). But don't let that put you off. Go to the AW recommended doctor and eat lots a red meat... unless your a veg like me, then you probably wont have any blood either!

[Margaret]

Treetops idea sounds very intriguing and possibly a good idea for a shoot???

We get tested so you know if there is a problem with the other girl.

I understand your health concerns but if you go out one night and pick up a girl or a guy and take them home how do you know if they have any diseases. You dont, you take that risk straight away. Even when you start a new relationship are you going to get tested every time before you start having a sexual relationship and your partner are they going to be tested. Are they going to wait until all results come in (3 months) before having sex, the relationship could be over by then....

Its something to think about. Everytime you sleep with a different partner you are taking a risk of contracting something and you may never show any symptoms of contracting that disease, you could be a carrier and pass it from one person to the next. It is the way we live now. Very rarely do you date someone who is a virgin!!

Food for thought

Margaret

[Vaxalon]

I am SO glad I'm married.

[gracie_w]

Yeah its kind of a shame we all have to be so aware of the possibility of diseases these days, it takes all the fun out of it!!

Hehe well you girls have definately made me think about it in a serious way! Darcy I'm usually pretty good in front of the cameras but that's just something else entirely! I'd probably need a bit of time to warm up and get used to them, then be fine. And I know what you mean about Susie and Penny's wacko selves...those girls are a scream! :D

[hotdawg]

.......Are they going to wait until all results come in (3 months) before having sex, the relationship could be over by then....


I made hubby wait 6 months,(although we fuck like rabbits now) for 2 reasons,

1. to make sure we were both emotionally ready,
2. To make sure the relationship wasn't just about sex (or the prospect of it)....

Anywho, Gracie may I make a suggestion, this may stir up the crowd here into a 'we hate hotdawgwife' chant, but maybe you should look into a T1 or T2 GG BEFORE looking at the big 3...might help you feel a little more comfortable? :D

hotdawgwife
A.K.A AW relationship counsellor :o

[Vaxalon]

Grr. Snarl.

:)

[Margaret]

I think a T1 or T2 would be a good idea. Go for it Gracie!!

[gracie_w]

Heh A tier 1 would be cool. :D I think I'd be comfortable with that....if everyone else could put up with the frustration ;)

[hotdawg]

Heh A tier 1 would be cool. :D I think I'd be comfortable with that....if everyone else could put up with the frustration ;)

screw them if they can't (not literally)

hotdawgwife

[treetops]

I think if Gracie was blindfolded AND tied down then she would not mind going to T3 and beyound :D just kidding Precious <3

[gracie_w]

Hehe would that be a little wishful thinking there, treetops? :)

[Chasaffton]

Heh A tier 1 would be cool. :D I think I'd be comfortable with that....if everyone else could put up with the frustration ;)

If that's what you feel comfortable then just do that.. I would like very much to be able to see you in what ever tier you would feel comfortable in doing . Thank you for even thinking of doing a gg set.

c

[Peter552]

A tier 1 would be cool. I think I'd be comfortable with that....

How about this (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=353) - the ultimate in innocence! ;)

[Diablo]

I'd be happy for Gracie if she just followed her heart, mind and conscience, and just did whatever she feels comfortable with, be it a T3, T2, T1, or even nothing at all ;) <3

It's all about respect for the model, folks!

[lemark]

if one is to examine the process or hypothesis; first is there hormony; is that person nurturing; to the displacement of oxygen; where your body is numb your brain high; in that climate is there clarity ; your sencsory-motors tell you this. or dose this person just want to fuck; are they showing mask like behaviour ; your componets-instincts should come into play. pure sex is a creature lacking rationality because it action oriented;its lock and load passion. the is really in your court lemark

[Black13]

if one is to examine the process or hypothesis; first is there hormony; is that person nurturing; to the displacement of oxygen; where your body is numb your brain high; in that climate is there clarity ; your sencsory-motors tell you this. or dose this person just want to fuck; are they showing mask like behaviour ; your componets-instincts should come into play. pure sex is a creature lacking rationality because it action oriented;its lock and load passion. the is really in your court lemark


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[gracie_w]

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Agreed.

[stoneyyy]

Agreed.

I will just agree too

[terulaen]

If that's what you feel comfortable then just do that.. I would like very much to be able to see you in what ever tier you would feel comfortable in doing . Thank you for even thinking of doing a gg set.

I'd be happy for Gracie if she just followed her heart, mind and conscience, and just did whatever she feels comfortable with, be it a T3, T2, T1, or even nothing at all ;) <3

It's all about respect for the model, folks!

I defintely agree with this!

[Diablo]

if one is to examine the process or hypothesis; first is there hormony; is that person nurturing; to the displacement of oxygen; where your body is numb your brain high; in that climate is there clarity ; your sencsory-motors tell you this. or dose this person just want to fuck; are they showing mask like behaviour ; your componets-instincts should come into play. pure sex is a creature lacking rationality because it action oriented;its lock and load passion. the is really in your court lemark

If one reader; hereby known as Diablo; is to examine such wonderfully crafted post; inhibiting sarcasm and likewise ad-hominem response; first one typically encounters significant cerebral pain due to inferior IQ; furthermore said reader mentioned herein wishes to forward request to aformentioned poster; that sentence rephrasal and reduction in semicolon deployment may also be suggested :)

Apologies lemark, I don't mean to personally insult or attack you in any way, but it's just that your post isn't too well worded (and I made a silly dig at it for some cheap comic relief). From the looks of it, I'm guessing you're trying to say that Gracie should really figure out whether she's just wanting straight-forward sex, or actually wants to engage in passionate love-making with a willing participant?

Anyways, back to the topic at hand...

Gracie, how's your thoughts on all this going? Personally I think a simple, fun GGT1/T2 would be a great evaluation opportunity, as well as a primer for the sort of issues a GGT3 could throw at you.

We'd love to have more Gracie to grace our screens (oops, sorry, stupid pun :o ), but we're already extremely grateful for your original set and upcoming redux set... it's been an absolute pleasure seeing/chatting to a beautiful, bright, witty, honest, open-minded girl like yourself ;)

[nqbus8]

I agree with Diablo.

Doing a tier 1 or tier 2 first (or T1 then T2) would make for an easier transition into T3.
Also...
for those of us following this thread, we would wait with baited breath through such an evolutionary process, kinda like watching a movie with sequels that keep getting better and better. I, for one, would be tantalized by such a growth process.

holdin' back just a little to keep 'em coming back for more

[BigSpud]

if one is to examine the process or hypothesis; first is there hormony; is that person nurturing; to the displacement of oxygen; where your body is numb your brain high; ...Eschew obfuscation (http://www.answers.com/topic/eschew-obfuscation)

[valerie]

lemark, i think you are brilliant. This is way off topic, but please keep writing. You remind me of James Joyce in "Finigan's Wake". I get you bro, come post on my thread: http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4111

[gracie_w]

Well I'm going in to Abbyland today to do some stuff...not a GG shoot alas but hopefully something pretty special, we'll see how that one works out ;)
And I'm looking forward to the redux set too! Can't be long now, I'm very excited to see it. :D yay!

[gilian]

hey gracie, ive only done two tier 2's, but i would definitely think about doing a tier three now, whereas i wouldn't have evn considered it if i hadn't done those two. does that make sense? he he, anyway, i think the tier 2 really introduces you to the whole process, and you learn things about the way they shoot and everything, like save energy for the video, that is really helpful. also, i would be more relaxed and comfortable about doing a tier 3 now, as opposed to being completely nervous. So basically, i think you should do whatever you want, but starting with a tier 2 might be easier
Love G

[gilian]

ps, it was also easy for me because the girls i shot with were super sexy and fun. aah, lucky me.

[terulaen]

If one reader; hereby known as Diablo; is to examine such wonderfully crafted post . . .

Wow, excellent, excellent post.


lemark, i think you are brilliant. This is way off . . .

Hey, lemark has a fan!


BTW, anxiously awaiting redux set. No frustration here, just anticipation.

[gracie_w]

Heh well I just did a double IM this morning and that was pretty sweet, and starting off as a tier one or two is probably a good idea, just to get my feet wet I guess you could say ;) So if I decide on doing it you guys will be the first to know! ;) xoxox

[terulaen]

I just did a double IM this morning . . .

Well what a way to build anticipation! :D

I'm sure the video will be up "soonish."

[Vid Dude]

I'm sure the video will be up "soonish."
I'm onto your game. Don't push your luck.

[terulaen]

Apologies. I wasn't really trying to be disrespectful, just using "accepted language" or Abbyspeak. Of course I'll let Abby speak for herself, just borrowing her word. Anyway, it can obviously be taken in a bad way, but it was not meant as such.

[matchless]

Well I'm going in to Abbyland today to do some stuff...not a GG shoot alas but hopefully something pretty special, we'll see how that one works out ...
And I'm looking forward to the redux set too! Can't be long now, I'm very excited to see it. ... yay!
Can't be long, you say? Talk about an understatement! :rolleyes: :D yes, that was something really special. And the double IM is an extra special bonus I'm looking forward to ;)<3

[twin20]

Hey name is jeremy from the united state i love your picture and the video :) The beauiful models that you have are the most fun and excuited models that I seen in a long time please write back i would like to chat with you lovly ladys

[Luxman]

Hi twin20,

Welcome to AW & the boards.

Enjoy your stay.

BTW: Chatting with the models only at the boards. No private mail addresses please.

Lxm

[Stinky]

Heh well I just did a double IM this morning and that was pretty sweet, and starting off as a tier one or two is probably a good idea, just to get my feet wet I guess you could say ;) So if I decide on doing it you guys will be the first to know! ;) xoxox

I'd like to suggest a tier 1. They are just pure fun. Very little sexual or romantic content. Maybe even a GG with 3 or more models so there are no pairing implications. Whatever you choose, the thing that really adds great value is your continuing frank discussion of how you feel about it and other things. The sexy pictures have so much more impact when we feel we know the model.

[takochan]

...I just did a double IM this morning and that was pretty sweet

With you in it, how could it be anything else?

starting off as a tier one or two is probably a good idea, just to get my feet wet I guess you could say ;)

If "getting your feet wet" (literally or otherwise;)) means doing whatever you feel comfortable with at the time
then that has to be the way to go. If you're not comfortable with what you're doing, somehow that discomfort will show and communicate itself. And that won't be fun for anyone.

Follow your feelings and you won't go far wrong. And I'm sure we'll all be (in spirit at least) there with you.

takochan
(looking forward to that sweet double-IM:) )
xoxoxox

[Peter552]

Heh well I just did a double IM this morning and that was pretty sweet...

Who did you do it with? Are you allowed to say?
Loved the Redux, Gracie, and I'd love you in a tier anything. Maybe with Josephine S? :)

[gracie_w]

Hey Pete,

Not sure if I'm allowed to say, don't wanna piss Abby off. And yeah, if Jo ever comes back from the states I'd be happy to do a Tier 1/2 with her.

Glad you liked the redux, I like it too :)

[Abby]

sure, you can tell us who you did the IM with! Thanks for being cautious, tho.

a

[gracie_w]

Heh well then, in that case I did my IM with Kaitlin, a model from America with THE biggest green eyes and THE deepest tan I've ever seen. I look like a ghost next to her, it's hilarious!

[Tex]

How long does it usually take for sets and videos to go up once they've been shot? (yes, yes, wondering when we might get to see Grace and Kaitlin ;) )

[gracie_w]

Hehe, well my first shoot took about 4 months to go up, and my redux just now took 9 days. Seems pretty random to me, but maybe if you buy abby lots of chupa chups and M&M's she'll speed it up for you :D

[Tex]

Hehe, well my first shoot took about 4 months to go up, and my redux just now took 9 days. Seems pretty random to me, but maybe if you buy abby lots of chupa chups and M&M's she'll speed it up for you :D

Let's try this...

Hi Abby, have I ever told you that you're doing a fantastic job and.. uhm.. I think abbywinters.com is easily the best site and.. uhm.. I think they should create a Nobel Prize in Abbynomics, so... uhm... if you could hurry and upload Grace and Kaitlin's IM video as soon as possible, that would be terrific!! <3

Right, had to resort to brown nosing, because I spent all my money on cheese for Susie and now can't afford any chupa chups or M&Ms for Abby! :D

[valerie]

I'm not sure about all this (it's nore my domain) but we'd likely have to get Kaitlin's stills and video up first...wouldn't just show you her IM without any other introduction! But I don't run the show...anticipation makes it better when it does happen, right?

[Diablo]

I'm not sure about all this (it's nore my domain) but we'd likely have to get Kaitlin's stills and video up first...wouldn't just show you her IM without any other introduction! But I don't run the show...anticipation makes it better when it does happen, right?

There is precedent for this though... remember how Armine/Emma R's double IM went up before we got to see Armine's solo shoot, giving us a very spectacular introduction to Armine herself? (Although I suspect Abby's reasoning for doing so was simply to open a channel of feedback to determine if double IMs were viable.)

However I'm also a believer of "patience builds good character"... :)

Well... when I get my next paycheck, perhaps I might make a contribution to the "Let's-get-Gracie's-IM-released-sooner" slush fund. What's your preferred type of M&Ms? ;)

[terulaen]

I'd be happy to do a Tier 1/2 with her.
Glad you liked the redux, I like it too :)

<3 the redux!

So the thread started with a Tier 3, which became a 2, more comfort with a 1, now a 1/2? Next it will be 1/4 with 2 girls blowing kisses to each other from across the room fully clothed. Oops, was that an idea? :D


However I'm also a believer of "patience builds good character"... :)

Agreed!

[Luxman]

... now a 1/2?
I think you mistunderstood.
Gracie surely thought at a Tier 1 OR 2, not at a half Tier.

Lxm

[gracie_w]

Hehe yeah sorry, that was an 'and or' slash not a half. That would be funny though, I like your idea for a quarter tier.

[Tex]

Quarter tier? What, like have one model flash the other while she's not looking? :D

[valerie]

that's what i do, alllll the time. Penny and Susie are bored of it and don't even notice (or pretend not to) anymore.

[siobhan_e]

Gracie,

when i first started modelling for AW i remember stating that i wouldn't ever do a GG shoot. then for some reason i changed my mind and i'm so glad i've did. I've always thought about doing it but never thought i actually would. i did mine with Gillian boy is she cute. we had a great time, it got so hot in there and i found it a major turn on ( i was really happy with the shoot).

I tried not to think of it as having sex with strangers just as to girls in the same boat. i cannot wait to do my tier 3 its gonna be so much fun!

the cameras - to be honest i just imagined they wasn't there... really they are no big deal.

ne more questions??? love to help babe.

by the way can't wait to see yr recent shoot up on the site!

mwah!

S x<3 x

[siobhan_e]

Heh well I just did a double IM this morning and that was pretty sweet, and starting off as a tier one or two is probably a good idea, just to get my feet wet I guess you could say ;) So if I decide on doing it you guys will be the first to know! ;) xoxox

i love double IM's they are so much fun!! they look really cool too. i spent two hours the other day just watching them. oooooooooo mamma.

[terulaen]

I think you mistunderstood.
Gracie surely thought at a Tier 1 OR 2, not at a half Tier.
Lxm

Ah, enlightenment . . . it's a wonderful thing :D

[terulaen]

I like your idea for a quarter tier.

(Yes! Woohoo! :) )

[terulaen]

that's what i do, alllll the time. Penny and Susie are bored of it and don't even notice (or pretend not to) anymore.

Ever hear of "too much of a good thing"? :)

[gracie_w]

Hehe Val flashed me in the office the other day too, must be a welcoming ritual.

[matchless]

that's what i do, alllll the time. Penny and Susie are bored of it and don't even notice (or pretend not to) anymore.
I know you've been all around the world and loved in many cities, but have you ever lived in New Orleans? I have a friend who went to grad school there and she would never have flashed people while she lived here (in MKE) but down there is was 'no problem' :D

Of course, the one time I went to visit her I saw no boobies at all ... :( ... but I did catch a glimpse of her naked just once when we were roommates :o It was nice, but we'll always be just friends.

[josephine_s]

I haven't done any GG shoots for AW (though I hope to, I'd love to make out with, say, Gracie!), but I've gone many a GG shoot for other sites.

Honestly the only times I've ever felt weird is when I actually had to restrict what I could do. I've done five girl girl shoots so far. For three of the shoots we were both totally into each other and could do whatever we wanted (mind you this is with three different girls), and so basically we just ended up being comfortable getting it on (full on) in front of the camera. But for the other two, we had to only make out for one reason or another, and having to stop myself from going any further was what made things awkward.

I wanted boobs dammit!

[gracie_w]

*gives Jo boobs*

[Tex]

Ah, boobs, the gift that keeps on giving! :D

[Tex]

By the way, Gracie, I think your Redux video with Siobhan E qualifies as half a tier GG. ;)

[valerie]

I know you've been all around the world and loved in many cities, but have you ever lived in New Orleans? I've never been there. What a shame, it's now the next Atlantis! :(<3 I should have flashed more boobage in Milwaukee.
"loved" in many cities, eh...you know me too too well...

Gracie, let's face it, you're dying to do a T2 or T3. It's clear now. The process takes weeks or months, so book with Susie soon before all the good models are taken. If you call now, we'll also include a free Stapler!

heh...

[gracie_w]

hehehe maybe we could get people to send staplers in...the aw stapler drive. There could even be a new category....GS. I think that counted as a GS tier 2, don't you?

[Diablo]

hehehe maybe we could get people to send staplers in...the aw stapler drive. There could even be a new category....GS. I think that counted as a GS tier 2, don't you?

Wouldn't a GST3 end up becoming essentially masochism? I mean, how exactly does a stapler orgasm? ;)

[gracie_w]

I dont know, but I can bet it would be very, very painful.

[Tex]

that's what i do, alllll the time. Penny and Susie are bored of it and don't even notice (or pretend not to) anymore.

We need photographic proof! ;)

[Penelope]

Hey Tex,

I was just taking this photo when your post came up. What a lucky coincidence! Sorry about the blur, my hand moved as I was taking it but you get the idea.

p

[Randomthoughts]

That was close! You could have boobed the whole shot! ;)

Thanks Penelope!

RT...

[Tex]

Thanks for reading my mind, Penelope! <3

[valerie]

Funny thing is, she didn't even have to ask me to do this. She just started taking pictures and before i knew it my hand moved and the boobage was out again. I'm so weak...

...or Penny is so motivating! you pick.

[blissed]

I think both are good reasons and thanks very much :)

[Tex]

If she collects more flasher pics, maybe Penny will soon have enough for a Val Flashing the Office set. ;)

[Randomthoughts]

AKA - Backstage
Just don't have to leave the boards!

RT...

[Diablo]

Val... if you don't have names for your breasts already, here's a suggestion: The Welcoming Committee ;)

[Diablo]

Oooh... BTW who's that in the window reflection in the last pic? It doesn't look consistent enough to be of Valerie, that's for sure...

[Luxman]

I wish my female co-workers were as "open minded" as you are.

Lxm

[valerie]

Oooh... BTW who's that in the window reflection in the last pic? It doesn't look consistent enough to be of Valerie, that's for sure... Why, that's Penny, focusing on the shot! This is the difference between she and me: she looks at the camera when taking photos.

As far as naming them, my joke has always been that they're called "Leftie" and "Rightie", but my partner's left and right! ...I always follow with "i'm just kidding" but I've been saying it for so long now...I do like the idea of The Welcoming Commity, that's quite clever.<3

(Luxy, sorry for being off topic!:()

[Luxman]

(Luxy, sorry for being off topic!:()
Hey, YOU may go as far off topic as you want to. :)

Lxm

[Dafydd]

Heh well I just did a double IM this morning
Excellent. Can't wait to see it. :D

starting off as a tier one or two is probably a good idea, just to get my feet wet I guess you could say ;)
If I may, I'd recommend a tier 2 — that way you are still guaranteed some Fun With Boobies. :p

[gracie_w]

Haha Val I dont know what it is about me but the first thing I noticed in that shot is your filthy filthy feet! Hehe, trust you to get so dirty.

[andrethegiant]

Gracie...thanks for the great IM. Just love the way your legs shake and how you keep them fingers right on the hot spot. Any chance you will be with another fine lady and do your magic finger routine with her there? andre

[gracie_w]

Andre I've done a double IM and that will hopefully show up on the site soon. I probably won't do a GG shoot though, just because I'm not 100% comfortable with the idea. Then again I might come around!

[Abby]

Gracie...thanks for the great IM. Just love the way your legs shake and how you keep them fingers right on the hot spot. Any chance you will be with another fine lady and do your magic finger routine with her there? andre

Andre, Gracie's solo I has not gone up on the site yet.

a

[Diana]

Hello...

Camera's..? what camera's? We just roll with the punches and enjoy.. and believe me , you will enjoy. It is not scary. I repeat. Not scary.

In fact, you might really get into it and forget that everyone (yes, the whole crew starring at your bum in the air) is even there! Good, less time spent looking around at nothing and more spent focussing on the job at hand!

All you need to do is some warm up drills.. now drop and give me 20!!!

Yeah!! :p

[blissed]

I'm not 100% comfortable with the idea. Then again I might come around!

If you had a girlfriend who really wanted to, that's probably the most likely reason you would. I think all you'd really get out of it is a little bit more money. I'm only interested in something thats feelgood. You don't really need to do one. Most people are more than happy with what you've done so far. Like I've said. What ever your in, it doesn't really matter what your doing, all you have to do is be in it :)

[matchless]

Andre, Gracie's solo I has not gone up on the site yet.
I think he was referring to vid #3 in her redux set (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=1213). It's the next best thing to a solo IM.

And there is the double IM with Kaitlin to look forward to, right? I am assuming this picture (http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=62951#post62951) from Susie's spunky thread is the same model. Should be nice :)

[Tex]

Gracie,

What are some of your reservations about a GG shoot, if you don't mind me asking? It's not that I want to pressure you, I just find it interesting to learn about how models approach some of the different aspects of their work and the attitudes and mindset they carry into the shoots. :)

You seemed very comfortable in your quarter tier performance with Siobhan E and a GG shoot doesn't have to be full-blown tier three, of course, but the most important thing is that you do with whatever you feel most comfortable, whether that is tier three, quarter tier, or no GG at all. ;)

[terulaen]

If you had a girlfriend who really wanted to, that's probably the most likely reason you would. I think all you'd really get out of it is a little bit more money. I'm only interested in something thats feelgood. You don't really need to do one. Most people are more than happy with what you've done so far. Like I've said. What ever your in, it doesn't really matter what your doing, all you have to do is be in it :)

Agree 100% and Tex too

[Tex]

I somehow have the feeling Grace might end up in a tier two shoot with Siobhan. ;)

But that's just a feeling and also shouldn't be considered pressure. :)

[gracie_w]

Heh Tex Siobhan's gone back to England :(

And as for reservations...I just think it would feel fake to me, and I don't like the idea of being 'set up' with a girl for money. I don't want to do whatever with a girl if all my motivation is money, really.

[Chasaffton]

Heh Tex Siobhan's gone back to England :(

And as for reservations...I just think it would feel fake to me, and I don't like the idea of being 'set up' with a girl for money. I don't want to do whatever with a girl if all my motivation is money, really.

If you have resevations and do'nt feel comfortable then please do'nt it. I think that's what makes Abby site so speical. You can tell that it all natural and relaxed.

Imho
c

[terulaen]

I somehow have the feeling Grace might end up in a tier two shoot with Siobhan.

She basically was in her last video and probably would have been if Susie, camera, and money hadn't been involved.

Which leads me to . . .

Maybe we can get blissed to head up a donation fund to fly Gracie to England and get a nice hotel room for some private Siobhan adventures :D (Siobhan = Sybian, coincidence? :) )

However, Gracie there's no pressure from me. I'd rather hear the story of how you surrepticiously got an AW girl (or other suitable partner) "to bed." Any video would be icing on the cake for us and with the added bonus of money for you. Part of the mindset of doing GG, photos, etc. may be doing something you enjoy and would do anyway, but if there is a camera there you can get paid for it. There's a home video show (comedy) here that says, "If you can get on tape, you can get it in cash." Of course there is a fine line between getting money for "innocent fun" and "selling one's body."

[Tex]

And as for reservations...I just think it would feel fake to me, and I don't like the idea of being 'set up' with a girl for money. I don't want to do whatever with a girl if all my motivation is money, really.

Well, I certainly love your honesty. I hadn't thought of it like that before, but now that you mention it, it makes perfect sense.

[blissed]

terulaen sent me this PM


"You have been mentioned!

I would like your response here:

http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=63262#post63262

Thanks!"




It would be really nice to meet Gracie, and Matilda's paying for me to have a holiday in Oz, so I'll see her then :)
We could get a fund for her to go to Nippon (in the Summer) with her friend, and then if they get together he might be persuaded to do an ISM. I think those are sometimes the most interesting. Mim has just done one with her partner (http://www.ishotmyself.com/public/view_gallery.php?g=ballad_1) and what comes over is that u can see why she likes him. Whats nice about them is that once you've taken the pictures, if they expose the nature of your relationship, and if for any reason your a bit uncomfortable about that being in public, you just don't send them in. but then you've got a really nice record for the future.

[siobhan_e]

Just to say i agree with Gracie if you don't feel comfortable then don't do it... however i wouldn't mind ha ha

Gracie you know i love being cheeky!;)

S x

[gracie_w]

Oooh blissed any donations for me to go to Japan with my boy would be very highly appreciated hehe. We still haven't worked out a way of getting out of that without losing 2k either, we're going to try him faking an ilness but if that doesnt work I may end up dropping a brick on my foot to break my toe or something. I figure, take lots of panadol before hand, or lots of vodka one or the other, and then hold my breath and go for it. Never broken a bone before, though, hehe.

[blissed]

Wouldn't lying be a lot easier? Actually when I first had fatigue syndrome nobody believed me. It's a well accepted medical phenomena but theres absolutely no diagnostic tests for it. Really it's time to choose your illness. theres thyroid deficiency thats undiagnosable. Back trouble Yes back trouble it's intermittent very painful and could inconvenience the flight staff . There must be an illness you can get that means travelling on a plane is out of the question. If your prone to blood clots. There are ear disorders that mean you can't take the change in pressure during a flight without pain http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=airplane+ear&btnG=Search&meta= could go for that.

[gracie_w]

Eyelash the trouble is that whatever it is has to have been contracted or developed after we bought the insurance and before the flight time. It can't be something that has been causing trouble for a while (eg, back trouble) because otherwise we would have needed to disclose it when applying for the insurance. And if we didn't disclose it then they won't cover it. So we need something sudden, like a broken bone.

We were going to try for Irritable Bowel Syndrome but even thats iffy.

[terulaen]

Wow, blissed, I didn't realize you were the AW playboy (for lack of a better term).

Gracie, forgive my ignorance but why are you going to Japan? You AW people, especially the models, seem to be quite the travelers.

BTW, shouldn't Gracie get a prize for her 555th post?

[gracie_w]

I was going to Japan with my friend who I love, I bought him the ticket and mine as a birthday present. But then we realised it was bad timing and he couldn't afford it (I bought it for him because I knew he wanted to go, and thought that if the plane ticket was taken out of the equation he might be able to afford it). Anyway, he couldn't and i couldn't afford to financially support the entire trip so it's been called off.

[siobhan_e]

). Anyway, he couldn't and i couldn't afford to financially support the entire trip so it's been called off.

that sucks gracie!! just to let you know if i had the money or win the euro millions or the national lottery i'd fund yr trip for ya First class!just coz i'm nice i guess.

xxxx

[gracie_w]

Aww thank you hun! I'd do the same for you if I won, and you know it xoxox

[Tex]

Sorry to hear, Gracie. I think Japan would have made for a very nice trip!

[gracie_w]

Yeah, no kidding. But its ok we can always go another time, or go somewhere else cheaper. I've decided to fake a back injury a week before we're supposed to go, and then cancel the whole thing. Yes it's dangerous in leaving it to the last minute, but that's also more believable I think.

[pjay]

Yeah, no kidding. But its ok we can always go another time, or go somewhere else cheaper. I've decided to fake a back injury a week before we're supposed to go, and then cancel the whole thing. Yes it's dangerous in leaving it to the last minute, but that's also more believable I think.
Potentially silly question from me, but can you not just get a refund? I'm under the impression that most long-distance flights are refundable if cancelled (I guess you might have to pay a small cancellation fee). Also the same generally applies to hotels etc...

[gracie_w]

The ticket I got was on special, and to cancel or change it incurs a $500 cancellation fee from the airline, plus a $250 cancellation fee from the travel agents. Per ticket. I need the insurance to cover those.

[pjay]

Wow, that's a hefty penalty. I thought you'd probably investigated this option (hence I said "Potentially silly question"), but I thought I'd mention it on the off chance...

[gracie_w]

I need some sympathy guys :( I have Gastroentiritis :( :( Very, very not nice. I could handle the vomiting and other nasties if my back and head didn't ache so bad. Ugh, kill me.

[casgrain]

Sorry to hear that your sick Gracie and hope you get better very soon. May I add that this is very common at this time of the year here in Canada, although I know it won't help you very much. :(
I wish we could do something to ease the pain, I know you need a lot of rest. Here is a smily for you :) hope it helps a little.

[Diablo]

Gracie, I'm sorry to hear of your latest condition... I'd like to wish you the best in the most prompt and pain-free recovery possible. Be sure to get lots of rest and take care of yourself... you'll be over it sooner. Stay strong, stay beautiful, stay Gracie <3

If only I could send some flowers (or whatever's preferred for us to express our sympathy to you)... Maybe I'll just follow casgrain's example with another smilie :)

[blissed]

Ugh, kill me.

Euthanasia isn't really the recommended treatment for abdominal inflamation :)
Pop over to 'a day of Grace' :) :) :)
http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=64283#post64283

[Excelsior]

I need some sympathy guys :( I have Gastroentiritis :( :( Very, very not nice. I could handle the vomiting and other nasties if my back and head didn't ache so bad. Ugh, kill me.

Sorry, Gracie, dear... o my... your personality on your vids and on the boards is so neat and fun, it's hard to imagine you being laid up (or is that laid low?) I hope that you're getting your electrolytes, vitamins, antibiotics... and since it's been diagnosed, I hope that you're happy with your care as well.

Wish we could get you a nice cool cloth for your forhead...

Bad Gastroenteritis, Bad! :mad:

[gracie_w]

Aww thank you all for your sympathy, it really does make me feel better! Good thing is Mum has been taking care of me, as only mums can, and so I'm way better than I was yesterday and about a million years from the crying, panicked, delusional, fevered nutjob I was on wednesday night! yay.

[Luxman]

I hope that you're getting your electrolytes,...
I had to read this twice because the first time I read electroshocks.

Lxm

[matchless]

I need some sympathy guys :( I have Gastroentiritis :( :( Very, very not nice. I could handle the vomiting and other nasties if my back and head didn't ache so bad. Ugh, kill me.
Sorry to hear about the problems but glad to hear you are being taken care of. I remember one time when I was in college, my freshman year and my first time living away from home: I woke up and felt sick and barely made it to the bathroom in time. As I was washing up at the sink, the Resident Advisor walked in and I asked him if he could help me. He said something like, I'm not your Mom, or she isn't here, the gist of the message being take care of yourself. You're lucky you don't have to do that just yet ... Anyway, glad you are feeling better already and get well-er soon :)

I'm also sorry to hear you had to scrub your plans for Japan. It will always be there and you will enjoy it more when you don't have to "nickel-and-dime" it. Looks like you need lots of sympathy, but since I am also a poor boy, I offer empathy as well. Maybe you can use this illness to get a "doctor's note" for the trip ... or if not, good luck with plan B, C or ...?

[terulaen]

Wow, this is like Gracie's Thread: Redux! Double the Gracie! :D

P.S. Glad you're well! Now if we can just get this fund started . . . ;)

[daimm9]

Gracie, you've bared your soul as well as your body.
Now that you've kicked that nasty bug into touch, come back with a partner, and give us another GG.
Daimm9

[Duaane]

Now Stay Well !!!

your too young and beautifull to be sick :)

[gracie_w]

Daimm what do you mean another? I haven't done one have I???

[Tex]

I reckon he meant your little reading session with Siobhan. ;)

[Louisa]

hehe, i think your georgeous and you should go for it! i've done one with a stranger and have one coming up with a friend, i was so nervous and excited about the GG i did with alexiah.. but it was so fun! youll have the time of your life doing it. hehe PROMISE

[bookmanz]

Gracie, all your fans hope you would listen to what lovely Louisa says! :)
Glad you're over your ailment.

[carla]

hmm if anything the cameras turned me on!!!:p admittedly i was nervous but once you start you cant stop.it makes me feel more in touch with myself.i also like the comments you get on the disscusion boards there a major ego boost! i read them when im down.i admit it may not be everyones cup of tea and there entitled to there opinion but for anyone thats keen i say let go and have a laugh!!

[greycat]

uuummmm, first post, unexpected subject; I looked at this thread almost by accident. early in the thread (page 1 I think), there was concern expressed about disease risk from tier 3 shoots. Rather than go all technical, see ch. 12, "Safer Sex in Porn", in Violet Blue's book, The Ultimate Guide to Adult Videos (www.Goodvibes.com) (http://www.Goodvibrations.com%29). Someone (Vid Dude?) noted testing was done before modeling, of course that's good, and unlike on AW the actors in the adult film industry sometimes accumulate thousands of contacts, many or most high risk. Violet Blue discusses voluntary standards of testing in the US adult vid industry. She also has tables listing high, moderate, and no/low risk from different practices that people like to do whether on video or not. And my point is? Would all of you wonderful people who appear on AW PLEASE take some reasonable care and dont think that whatever-the-hell happens, happens? Take some care about yourselves? Thank you.

[arsby]

Hi, Greycat. Welcome to the boards. Hope that will be the first of many posts.

You'll be pleased to know that
1) Having models tested for STDs where there's intimate interaction is the law, and Abby is absolutely scrupulous about following the law.
2) Abby and staff care personally about the welfare of all of our wonderful models, so even if there weren't a law I'll bet they'd be taking all precautions to keep the models safe and happy.

[paula]

yup no testing, no tier 3..... abby is very safe and careful, and thats why you see so many happy models on here!!!!! i think the quality of abby winters and the happy models is also apparant in the increase in numbers of models who are posting on the boards these days..... only girls who are having a good time at abbywinters.com would be part of this! (oh and also those with internet connections) hehe :D

[annette_p]

hey i know this thread was started yonks ago but i think its a really good topic especially for new models or models that havent done a GG shoot. I recently have done two GG shoots and it was my first time with a woman and I loved it! dont get me wrong i still love my men but i think it was just such an amazing experience!! it comes so naturally with a woman...at first i was so so nervous not knowing what to do but the nerves soon go and you actually enjoy yourself and really get into it. Lacey was my first GG and she was lovely, it was nice and passionate at the same time. once you have the first kiss you can forget the nerves, forget the camera and just go with it. my 2nd went alot easier i think, Greta was beautiful and knew what to do...so was a bit more sexy and erotic...every girl is different and like different things thats whats exciting about GGs I think. Anyway if you're think of doing a GG i recommend it you have alot of fun on the day and its not all serious you can have a laugh and a giggle along the way. hope this helps any of you lot... xxxxxx:D