Strapon's

[nicg0006]

Hi..I wish I lived in OZ but as I am in the UK I have to drool over the fantasic girls you have. I have a strapon I use on my g/f's, is there any chance we can have some strapon scenes please xx.

Love from a English Dyke xx

[marigold]

how snap! i just went strap-on shopping with one of my mates for her and her girlfriend....we spent like 2 hours looking at all different kinds!! i've never used one myself tho....is it good? well, obviously it is i guess or else ya wouldnt have asked for strap on scenes eh?

[swiftly]

I am not impressed by strapons I wonder if I would wear a fleshlight. I understand using a dildo but then it is not a pretend male just a tool... I got to think about a little more but it doesnt turn me on!:rolleyes:

[takochan]

I am not impressed by strapons I wonder if I would wear a fleshlight. I understand using a dildo but then it is not a pretend male just a tool... I got to think about a little more but it doesnt turn me on!:rolleyes:

To each his or her own. Chacune et chacun à son goût

takochan

[takochan]

Hi..I wish I lived in OZ but as I am in the UK I have to drool over the fantasic girls you have. I have a strapon I use on my g/f's, is there any chance we can have some strapon scenes please xx.

Love from a English Dyke xx

Welcome nicg0006 — and here is one of many (I think, judging from past discussions) who would also like to see your wish fulfilled.

takochan

[jaycee]

Hi..I wish I lived in OZ but as I am in the UK I have to drool over the fantasic girls you have. I have a strapon I use on my g/f's, is there any chance we can have some strapon scenes please xx.

Love from a English Dyke xx

You and be both nicg0006.

Welcome to abbyland and the boards. it is obvious you are into girls and that is great, You have come to the most natural and goregous girls I have ever seen. No phoney stuff here, its real life fun for the girls and for us members, guys and gals.

Watching girls using a strapon is a real turn on for me and I too like T-chan would love to see your wish come true.

Cheers JC

[PlughPlover]

As most of the AW models are not actually gay (their romantic relationships are with men), their selection of toys, especially the kinds of toys lesbians use, seems to be rather limited.

Strapons are probably a bit problematic for a continuous undirected video shoot, as putting one on is doubtless rather fiddly and un-spontaneous.

Still, I wouldn't mind seeing one now and then if it were part of the girls' normal play.

[Althea]

Interesting topic!! I've often wondered about this and it's place. I personally have never used a strap-on or had on used on me but a girlfriend i did have told me about her experience and i just find it real interesting. Is giving or receiving better? I feel a little strange about being the giver but i guess its hard to say cause ive never tried it. But if it was a part of a couples or a girls normal sex play then id see no problem in viewing it. But if it was something the girls dont normally do i think it would show and fakeness is not something that abbywinters is about.

althea

[Althea]

PS. excuse my terrible spelling. Im a little groggy on medicine and sleepy sick in bed :)

[arsby]

O my goodness, a whole thread about strapons and not a single mention of the AW model who embodies the joy of strapons, dear sweet raunchy Ava (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=1442).

Can anyone think of another model who uses them here?

[Althea]

O my goodness, a whole thread about strapons and not a single mention of the AW model who embodies the joy of strapons, dear sweet raunchy Ava (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=1442).

Can anyone think of another model who uses them here?

thanks for the memory jog!! i cant believe i forgot this gem!!

[casgrain]

To each his or her own. Chacune et chacun à son goût

takochan

takochan, you amaze me with your knowledge of french, where did you learn all this?

[cheshire]

There's plenty of that crap in American porn. To me AW is not so much a porn site, but really more of an erotic art site for several reasons which I'm sure most of you here can probably figure out...

I'd probably be a little disappointed if AW went too far in this direction but am confident that if she does decide to do a strap-on shoot or 2 I'm sure she would do so in her normal tasteful, NATURAL fashion.


...just my .02...

[arsby]

There's plenty of that crap in American porn. To me AW is not so much a porn site, but really more of an erotic art site for several reasons which I'm sure most of you here can probably figure out...

I'd probably be a little disappointed if AW went too far in this direction but am confident that if she does decide to do a strap-on shoot or 2 I'm sure she would do so in her normal tasteful, NATURAL fashion.


One person's crap is another person's pleasure.
Take a look at Ava's strapon shoots. They are too much fun to be porn, and Ava is too funny and sweet to be a porn star.

[Frans]

Well judging by the fact Ava loved using strap-ons and NEVER got to use one in her many ggt3 scenes... I'd say the chance is fairly small.

You'd have to have at least one 'experienced' (heh) model for such a shoot, preferably two. As for easy to use strap-ons, there is the fairly well known Feel Doe (http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/toys/double_dildos.html#t-tnt-1633) or Fun Factory's Share (http://www.divadirect.co.uk/default-mainmenu-3-mptid-7-ptid-191-detail-42696.htm) dildo (yes, a lawsuit is pending 'cos of that one;-). Otherwise you'll have to mess with a harness.. no doubt good for lots of backstage pics :D

Oh yeah, this link is for Marigold: Choosing a Harness (http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/guides/harnesses.html) could be useful :) And do avoid the jelly dildo's ok? They're not very healthy (a bit like stuffed sausages at the local market, nobody knows what goes in them but mostly junk;-)

Some helpful literature; http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Guide-Strap-Sex-Complete/dp/157344085X have fun practicing :D

[laktor]

Strapons have always turned me off. I dunno, but for some reason I just don't like watching people use them.

[takochan]

takochan, you amaze me with your knowledge of french, where did you learn all this?

It's not such a big deal — just me remembering a few bits and pieces from what I learned at school decades ago.

I know I've forgotten a hell of a lot. :(


Je me souviens des temps anciens,
et je pleure.

Ô qu'as-tu fait, toi que voilà,
pleurant sans cesse,

Dis, qu'as-tu fait, toi que voilà,
de ta jeunesse?


-------------------------

L'Irréparable ronge, avec sa dent maudite,
Notre âme, piteux monument..."


Ouch, time to stop...
takochan

[valerie]

What a sad poem!

[takochan]

What a sad poem!

Snippets from two different poems, actually: one by Verlaine, the other by Baudelaire.

I once knew both by heart (and heaps more), but have forgotten so much...

I do know some cheerful verses as well :)

But this is all getting far too off-topic. My fault. Sorry.

takochan

[nicg0006]

Interesting topic!! I've often wondered about this and it's place. I personally have never used a strap-on or had on used on me but a girlfriend i did have told me about her experience and i just find it real interesting. Is giving or receiving better? I feel a little strange about being the giver but i guess its hard to say cause ive never tried it. But if it was a part of a couples or a girls normal sex play then id see no problem in viewing it. But if it was something the girls dont normally do i think it would show and fakeness is not something that abbywinters is about.

althea

First of all I hope you are feeling better Althea...I am a lesbian..I use strapons as part of my love making with g/fs...so to the person who associates them with porn..I totaly disagree that they are porn tool. From my experience as both a giver and receiver, I can tell you that both of us experience pleasure. The strapon I use, rubs on my clit when I am using on someone...so I am getting pleasure at the same time my gf gets pleasure feeling a dildo being used on her. Its not just the dlido inside her, its the experience of a female touching her, feeling her as she receives.
I hope that explains my feelings..but as can be seen from the replies we are not all the same. love to you all xxx

[Nomad712]

Althea: wrap up, and stay in bed, young lady.:)

Re strap-ons....I'd rather that was left up to the models themselves as they think best. All of AW is natural and spontaneous..best stay that way, n'est'ce pas? :)

[sweatyfox]

I think it would be fine in the very last section of a video in a shoot where one or both models have used one in real life. But also I think there are plenty of sites who cater for this. I enjoy the intimacy and exploration with fingers and tongues and also body parts rubbing against each other that AW g/g brings and also the clear difference in mood, style, tone in g/g sex compared to when it's b/g.

I think doing one or two shoot with dildos and strap on would be a good idea but they should really go in the Deviations section as being different from the usual g/g shoots which I personally love as they are and think are heaps better than on other sites where they do often revert to using toys and the models aren't necessarily that into each other. Here because they want to explore each other, different techniques and the feelings/tastes/smells you can tell the girls really do enjoy each other.

SF

[doinel]

What a sad poem!
Hi Val, good to see you are still alive.;) Now I know how we can bring you back to the forum: with French poems. :D

doinel

[PlughPlover]

First of all I hope you are feeling better Althea...I am a lesbian..I use strapons as part of my love making with g/fs...so to the person who associates them with porn..I totaly disagree that they are porn tool. From my experience as both a giver and receiver, I can tell you that both of us experience pleasure. The strapon I use, rubs on my clit when I am using on someone...so I am getting pleasure at the same time my gf gets pleasure feeling a dildo being used on her. Its not just the dlido inside her, its the experience of a female touching her, feeling her as she receives.
I hope that explains my feelings..but as can be seen from the replies we are not all the same. love to you all xxx
Thanks for sharing your perspective. I've always felt (not that I'm in any position to know) that a strapon would allow the wearer to perform the basic, for want of a better word, humping motion that men enjoy, and have it be really effective for both parties. (Disclaimer to the short-tempered: not that I think lesbian sex requires strapons or is in any way inferior without them, or that it is or should be about "feeling like" or "acting like" a man in any way!) The mutual thigh-humping is probably close and has the advantage of symmetry, but there's something about being between a girl's legs, don't you think?

[djbrown19]

As most of the AW models are not actually gay (their romantic relationships are with men), their selection of toys, especially the kinds of toys lesbians use, seems to be rather limited.

Strapons are probably a bit problematic for a continuous undirected video shoot, as putting one on is doubtless rather fiddly and un-spontaneous.

Still, I wouldn't mind seeing one now and then if it were part of the girls' normal play.
We might have some differences about definitions. I interpret "gay" to mean (1) happy, (2) preferring same sex relations to heterosexual relations. The term "bisexual" I would take to mean capable of enjoying sex with either gender.

Plughplover says that most of the models' relationships are with men. I'm wondering how well he or she knows the women in question, and what he bases his comment on.
If, as he says, most of the AW models are not actually gay, they are at least bisexual. As a male, I couldn't conceive of a male-male photo shoot similar to the AW shoots in which the men were strictly heterosexual. No heterosexual man could fake that kind of action so convincingly, and I believe heterosexual women can't either. So, like I say, these women (the ones involved in girl-girl shoots) are at least bisexual.

Back to the subject, strap-ons. I don't know whether AW has a policy here or not. Assume for a moment that they do not have a policy and the girls are doing whatever comes naturally. The lack of strap-ons here would lead one to conclude that strap-ons aren't that common in girl-girl relations. Like BDSM, penetration with a strap-on is a sort of fringe option. As a male, I do find it fun to watch, since penetrative sex is more of a guy-gal activity than some of the other options.

Quite possibly AW does have a policy against strap-ons. I'm a new subscriber and can't second-guess the managers here.

[patience]

I have never used a strap-on

[peesoup]

I have never used a strap-on, but I have used a post-it note.

[Frans]

I have never used a strap-on, but I have used a post-it note.

papercuts!!!! eek...:eek:

[arsby]

Just last night I had a spare moment to review some "traditional porn" vids I downloaded a few months ago, and came upon a Harry Morgan film that while mostly about fisting also include a scene with a lovely young lady with a strapon diligently slipping it into a.... middle aged man's ass! My butt clenched up so tight it could have bent steel! He was facing her with his legs up and tucked back, and occassionally she'd bend forward and suck his (understandably limp) penis!

The moral of this post is... Stay away from traditional porn! Stay here at AW! You'll have a better chance at not losing your lunch!

[PlughPlover]

We might have some differences about definitions. I interpret "gay" to mean (1) happy, (2) preferring same sex relations to heterosexual relations. The term "bisexual" I would take to mean capable of enjoying sex with either gender.

Plughplover says that most of the models' relationships are with men. I'm wondering how well he or she knows the women in question, and what he bases his comment on.
If, as he says, most of the AW models are not actually gay, they are at least bisexual.

Yes, they are undoubtedly bisexual -- except for the ones who are exclusively homosexual.

I don't know them well, but many, many of them make reference to their boyfriends and it's clear that that's whom they have romantic relationships with. Far fewer indicate that their romantic relationships are with women, although there are exceptions, obviously.

Being gay is less a matter of who you shag for fun or for money, than who you love and take to your heart. A certain number of prostitutes are lesbians -- they go home to women partners. Strictly speaking, they're bisexual; in practical, meaningful terms, they're gay. The sex of prostitution is just a job. I like to think that the sex of AW is a fun job. :) Alas, it's seldom romance, except in the few cases where the participants are partners -- and those are the hottest shoots of all.

So yes, there is a difference of definition. I think of gay-ness in terms of romance rather than sex.

People who are FULLY bisexual, in the sense of forming romantic relationships with either sex, are rather rare. Most people have a preference.

[katy]

People who are FULLY bisexual, in the sense of forming romantic relationships with either sex, are rather rare. Most people have a preference.

This is interesting to me as I think I am leaning more and more towards the centre of the sexuality continuum. Originally I found myself only attracted to women but now to both sexes.....and as I date more guys I can honestly say that I dont mind (nor can I predict) which gender I will end up with long term, and I honestly dont mind. For me it is more about the person and less about the gender. Sex too, I am happy with either form!

Back to strap ons....I have had one used on me (with my most serious ex girlfriend). For us it was a way to be as close as physically possible...she had this desire to be inside me and that was the way she wanted to do it. Plus I was very curious about sex with men (which I hadnt experienced) and this was a way to give me an idea of what it felt like. Turns out that it feels quite different (for me anyway) but it was fun. WAY too much of a gender fuck for me to use it on her though, I wasnt comfortable with that. I was more than happy to use a hand held dildo but there was NO way I was wearing the strap on.

[PlughPlover]

WAY too much of a gender fuck for me to use it on her though, I wasnt comfortable with that. I was more than happy to use a hand held dildo but there was NO way I was wearing the strap on.

Breaking boundaries is scary -- you're always wondering what it "means" about you. Does having same-sex relations make you a homosexual (which still frightens many, many people -- and with good reason, in some parts of the world)? Does anal sex make you a pervert (which some people still believe)? Does seeing a prostitute mean you're exploitive or pathetic, and so on.

Ultimately, however, those are all other people's "meanings," and what really matters is what YOU think about yourself. You can have a little fun, and do a little experimenting in privacy, without it "meaning" anything at all. A good many men get off on wearing women's clothing or underclothing. For the most part, they keep it secret because of what they feel it "means," but a few are able to liberate themselves of others' prejudices and do as they damn well please.

Have a look at Ava's video. It's pretty clear she's still all woman... but she just gets off on the feeling of having this big thing between her legs -- being able to hold it, and so on. (BTW, men don't walk around with permanent erections, so it's not like it feels that way all the time to a man!) Whatever concerns she had about the gender-fuck of it, she's over them.

I'm not telling you that you ought to do it or that you should like it, just that you don't need to be afraid of trying it. When we break the chains that we allow others to put on us, we begin to know real freedom.

[katy]

I'm not telling you that you ought to do it or that you should like it, just that you don't need to be afraid of trying it. When we break the chains that we allow others to put on us, we begin to know real freedom.

I never said anything about being afraid of using a strap on! There is very little that I am actually afraid of :p It just doesnt feel sexually appealing to me so therefore I have no desire to try it....and I am in no way implying that by using a strap on I somehow alter my identity.....

Define yourself by who you are, not what you do!

[PlughPlover]

Sorry, I misunderstood. You said you weren't comfortable with it and there was NO way you would do it... that sounded a bit more emphatic than just that it wasn't appealing... as if you were UNcomfortable with the whole idea... anyway, no offense meant.

[swiftly]

As a male, I couldn't conceive of a male-male photo shoot similar to the AW shoots in which the men were strictly heterosexual. No heterosexual man could fake that kind of action so convincingly, and I believe heterosexual women can't either. So, like I say, these women (the ones involved in girl-girl shoots) are at least bisexual.


I'm not so sure about the inability to act as a homosexual. It can be just an act. I am not gay but have spent the night in bed with a transexual to experience another side of life. Many of my gay friends encouraged me to become gay as there was a lot more action available to me. Me always searching and hunting and hungry for women.:D I don't think I am any less straight for kissing my male gay friends on the lips, like I do my father to this day. I really am not drawn to men but I think I could put up a convincing act. :cool:I guess women can do the same?? oops too much information f**k it!:o

[PlughPlover]

I happen to know a male prostitute. He's romantically heterosexual, but bisexual in practice. The majority of his clients are gay men; a small number are women. People pay and he makes them feel nice. Is it an act? Not really. Good prostitutes don't act unless you ask for some role-play. They don't pretend they think you're hot... that would be insulting your intelligence. Instead, they make you welcome and give you a damned good seeing to. It's hospitality, not acting.

Interestingly, he usually fakes orgasm with the women. They want a stud who will last a long time, and to be that for them he has cultivated an ability not to go over the top -- but to give the impression (because they also want that). That much is acting.

[peesoup]

To each his or her own. Chacune et chacun à son goût

takochan

ditto - if it feels good, nike

[peesoup]

I've got a drinking buddy who got his undercarriage blown off by a mine in Vietnam and he's used a strapon for years. His wife loves it. It doesn't matter how shitfaced we get at the club, he can still go home and get it on.
Every cloud has a silver lining I suppose.
pee x

[Dallasite]

Strapons are probably a bit problematic for a continuous undirected video shoot, as putting one on is doubtless rather fiddly and un-spontaneous.

I've seen women put them on on sites like www.UltimateSurrender.com (http://www.UltimateSurrender.com). It's about the same as putting on a pair of panties. Certainly no more "un-spontaneous" than girls talking and then one gets out her little box of dildos and vibrators. The main thing is the strapon normally does have to be lubed.

[Hillery]

i think it's really interesting that someone-can't be bothered going back and reading who-said penetrative sex was more of a male act (actually there is so much wrong with that comment but I can't be bothered being argumentative hehe)...i love using a strap on because it gives me a real sense of power....so does that mean as far as my thought process goes men=power?
hm...

anyway not sure how it would translate on film but in general i love using a strap-on because it gives me this weird absolute sense of control over a woman, like i want them to just lie down and take it! and there's also something really hot about getting a girl to suck your strap on/or vice versa, even though logically i can't feel anything the power trip goes straight between my legs haha :eek: on the flipside i don't really girls using it on me, though I think that's because I've only had one girl do so and that was my very possessive ex girlfriend who insisted on asking if she was better than a man, so the whole time i was trying to please her and feeding her ego rather than enjoying it...

[Frans]

In general the 'power trip' part translates badly to film (doesn't show). Also in 'mainstream' porn strap-ons are generally used more as distance-keeping-device. That's what it looks like anyway :) More female-friendy movies don't have that particulair problem though.

If you do want to feel something when wearing a strap-on, well try a Feeldoe (http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/toys/double_dildos.html) (or the Share, same page).

P.s. Ava's Intimate Moment vid (http://www.abbywinters.com/main.php?page=profile&model=1598) might interest you :)