The possibility of a "couples" section: More Boy/Girl scenes

[wolfgangbuster29]

Amen to that.

[Stonefly]

Perhaps the political climate in Amsterdam will be more conducive to boy/girl ruminations?

[garionhall]

we're looking at GB stuff seriously, and plan to have some up before the year is out. It'd be a separate "pod" site, paid for separately. It you were a member of two pods, you'd see them merged together, if not, you wouldn't (much like IM and solo now).

We'll definitely only shoot real-life couples (tho we won't ask for proof, we will not be lining up a bunch of models to have sex with one or two studs), and have some ideas on T1, T2 and T3 levels of shoots. It's still early days, but we're all really excited.

Now if we can just get the damn internet connected, freight delivered, and visa's cleared, we can do some real work here in Amsterdam! :/

[Impudican]

I don't pretend to have looked that hard, but still, what I have seen is laughable at best, and depressing at worst. l.

I agree wholeheartedly with you Immie. The vast majority of members joined AW to see beautiful, natural girls like you, sharing your new found freedom of sexual expression with us guys from which, we can learn so much about what is expected of us in our relationships. B/G stuff never fulfills the pleasure, I for one, enjoys. I feel privileged that AW models are happy to share that freedom with me and long may AW continue to has it has done successfully all these years.

[dbenway]

I would really love to see more B/G stuff here, but after seeing some of the vehement responses here I won't be holding my breath for it

I've seen a lot of suggestions to "go find it somewhere else". Can anyone recommend a reputable site that is similar in style and aesthetic to AbbyWinters? That's really what I like so much about this place and I haven't been able to find something similar for B/G stuff yet. I would be very appreciative of suggestions.

[wolfgangbuster29]

I would really love to see more B/G stuff here, but after seeing some of the vehement responses here I won't be holding my breath for it

I've seen a lot of suggestions to "go find it somewhere else". Can anyone recommend a reputable site that is similar in style and aesthetic to AbbyWinters? That's really what I like so much about this place and I haven't been able to find something similar for B/G stuff yet. I would be very appreciative of suggestions.

Mmm- I'm not sure AW administrators would welcome the fulfillment of that request, though I know of at least one site in particular. Don't worry folks, because atm I'm not interested in subscription to that site, I'll stick with good ol' AW.

[aff_1329]

we're looking at GB stuff seriously, and plan to have some up before the year is out. It'd be a separate "pod" site, paid for separately. It you were a member of two pods, you'd see them merged together, if not, you wouldn't (much like IM and solo now).

We'll definitely only shoot real-life couples (tho we won't ask for proof, we will not be lining up a bunch of models to have sex with one or two studs), and have some ideas on T1, T2 and T3 levels of shoots. It's still early days, but we're all really excited.

Now if we can just get the damn internet connected, freight delivered, and visa's cleared, we can do some real work here in Amsterdam! :/

No one really seems to be responding to the couple of posts where Garion mentioned doing more G/B content. I for one think it's FANTASTIC news... sounds great.

[wolfgangbuster29]

No one really seems to be responding to the couple of posts where Garion mentioned doing more G/B content. I for one think it's FANTASTIC news... sounds great.

Oh- we definitely are saying about it these daus. A look about the forum postings within the last 48 hours or so will produce evidence of that.

[grungier]

Great news

Thanks garionhall. I started another thread asking for this. you are right on track for what I would like to see. Couples filmed having sex. Not having sex for the camera. Use the same values that you use for the girl and G/G shoots. No direction. Just film the action. Up close. orgasms. and some cream pies would be great.

[louseboy]

we're looking at GB stuff seriously, and plan to have some up before the year is out.

Yay! Thanks, Garion. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

It'd be a separate "pod" site, paid for separately. It you were a member of two pods, you'd see them merged together, if not, you wouldn't (much like IM and solo now).

What about those of us with legacy (pre-split) subscriptions? Will there be special add-on pricing for this (and for other new stuff, like After Dark)? Even better, of course, would be if you just threw it all in with our existing full subscriptions, but I suspect that you might not want to do that (since you do need to make money on all of this)...

[Luxman]

we're looking at GB stuff seriously, and plan to have some up before the year is out.

Well, I'm looking forward to seeing this going live!

Lxm

[goldowl]

Thanks, Louseboy, for asking what I was thinking.
I am really excited by Garions announcement, I think it will make AW truly the ONLY site I will want to subscribe to.

[ham]

Yay! Thanks, Garion. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.



What about those of us with legacy (pre-split) subscriptions? Will there be special add-on pricing for this (and for other new stuff, like After Dark)? Even better, of course, would be if you just threw it all in with our existing full subscriptions, but I suspect that you might not want to do that (since you do need to make money on all of this)...

I agree with you. As a loyal 6 yr member and lover of the few BG's we have, I would like too see AW's of the treatment of the subject. Unfortunately I doubt I could afford an extra charge.

[ACHALM50]

Well bookmanz...It seems there's no active thread yet about "the possibility of couples" so I'm posting here as a response to sicurgillos somehow indignant interruption....
Maybe it sounds a bit queer...but I also would have problems with boys/men "acting" their parts in the show.....
That has nothing to with jealousy ......Being in Abbyland feels to me like gliding upon the fascinatingly odouros waves of female sensuality. In other words: It's not sex I'm looking for here, but erotism...

[hippoid]

Yes, there is a 'possibility of couples' thread! Look in the list under 'staff posting', and, in the message boards, in the 'general discussion' section. The subject is also discussed, by me and others, in the 'Great changes at AW' thread.
Actually, it would be great of one of our moderators could move this all into a single thread - and maybe make it sticky, too, as it is a subject that matters to a lot of us.
As I have said on both the other threads, I am all in favour, provided BG is done in the AW manner and with the sex happening between real BFs and GFs; those who don't want it can simply decide not to watch these shoots!

[ACHALM50]

Thank you, hippoid for the tip
...I could agree with your view, if the "sex departement" would take it's seat in another separated section...

[Luxman]

Hello, Moderators and Members, can I make a suggestion?

We try to put all commentary about girl/boy stuff into just one or two threads. There is an active thread called "The possibility of couples: More boy/girl"

That's what I think too.
I've merged the two threads.

Lxm

[ACHALM50]

Hi Luxman (emperor of LUXLAND and AUSTRALIA
That's what I call decision-making powers !!!!!!
Greetings from the next-door

[wolfgangbuster29]

Well bookmanz...Being in Abbyland feels to me like gliding upon the fascinatingly odouros waves of female sensuality. In other words: It's not sex I'm looking for here, but erotism...

My thoughts exactly.

[andresone]

I'm wondering about how much the "pod" site for B/G content will cost versus how much content - I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of B/G shoots happening on a regular basis to support a new pod, unless there is more opportunity for this in Amsterdam, and still keeping with the AW quality way of shoots/ vids

[wolfgangbuster29]

I'm wondering about how much the "pod" site for B/G content will cost versus how much content - I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of B/G shoots happening on a regular basis to support a new pod, unless there is more opportunity for this in Amsterdam, and still keeping with the AW quality way of shoots/ vids

Something tells me that the anticipated amount of inventory on a monthly basis, per-se, won't justify the expense and implimentation of a separate pod solely for HC B/G action. Perhaps the Deviations section could be revived so as to include the HC B/G content that apparently so many, AW subscribers are expressing such strong interests in here in the forums (perhaps that was four, five, six, maybe seven subscribers to express an interest so far, out of the potential thousands of current, AW subscribers)?

I still suggest a poll feature added to this particular thread would prove the actual degree of subscriber interest in HC B/G porn action on AW based on responses of AW members in these boards, and a link to the poll can be placed on the AW members home page.

[garionhall]

With regards to cost, we're mindful of the enough-content-to-support-the-price tension. but there's no getting away from it, we will not be offering GB shoots at no extra cost - like GG T3 shoots, they cost twice as much to produce (two models). Plenty of sites out there charge what we do, for significantly less updates and content than we provide (in any ONE pod, let alone all three!), and we really feel it.

Obviously, anything more than $0 will price us out of some people's market, but I will seed expectations of around US$30 for around two shoots a week (that is, two GB couples, stills and video). That's not a guarantee or a promise. If it's more successful, we'll be able to charge less, if it's not, we're unlikely to charge more. Instead, we may simply discontinue it.

However, I think it will be reasonably popular - it has remained our #1 most-requested type of shoot (and cited as the # 1 reason for leaving) for a long time now.

[intalam]

I don't greatly care about GB shoots, there's tons of that sort of stuff out there. An occasional real life boyfriend of a model would be good, but I sure wouldn't quit over its absence. I really get tired of the sites with a few regular studs. It gets very boring.

[wolfgangbuster29]

I don't greatly care about GB shoots, there's tons of that sort of stuff out there. An occasional real life boyfriend of a model would be good, but I sure wouldn't quit over its absence. I really get tired of the sites with a few regular studs. It gets very boring.

Spot-on, mate.

[Frans]

I really get tired of the sites with a few regular studs. It gets very boring.

Allow me to quote Garion (emphasis mine);

We'll definitely only shoot real-life couples (tho we won't ask for proof, we will not be lining up a bunch of models to have sex with one or two studs), and have some ideas on T1, T2 and T3 levels of shoots. It's still early days, but we're all really excited.

Two entire GB shoots per week sounds like a LOT of extra work for staff. As far as I remember Abby said GB were a *lot* more work to shoot compared to GG. I thought that was one of reasons not to do many of those. I'm pretty sure there are people and members who want to see such shoots, that's not what I worry about.

This made me wonder about things said between the models involved in a shoot. That might in future shoots be non-English, will we get subtitles ?

[trebor]

I'm not personally interested in girl-boy shoots, but as I posted in previous discussions on this topic I don't have any objections to them being included as part of the site as long as they are not replacing any existing content (which it sounds like they will not be). One remaining concern I did have was in the increased organization and shooting time needed for the girl-boy shoots indirectly affecting other parts of the site. For example the girl-girl fun shoots (Sunset Girls etc) are my favorite part of the site, shoots that aren't a regular weekly update but do appear on the site on a regular basis. I imagine these shoots take quite a bit of time to organize (particularly the larger ones like Fitball Girls and Step Aerobics Girls), I'm hoping you will be able to continue to organize these shoots on a regular basis.

Anyways, good luck putting together the girl-boy section (and continued good luck in general setting up in the new location)! I'm sure you put a lot of time and thought into organizing it, hopefully this will be something everyone will enjoy.

[ron2010]

If done right I think the addition of B/G shoots could be very exciting. I know there are many generic and very boring B/G sites out there giving people the same shoot over and over again but with different models. I am interested in seeing what AW can do with
it's B/G shoots as IT'S GG, IM & solo shoots are by far the best of any adult site out there.
What I would like to see AW do with it's B/G shoots is show us the whole shoot warts and all without any cuts.I guess what I'm looking for is to see the video with the behind the scenes outtakes included in the finale release. I think it would give it a more realistic feel unlike most other sites where the action is very staged and unrealistic. For instance if the girl needs to take a break I want to hear her say so. The GOW site does this somewhat [check out Bailey or Joannie as we know her on AW in her B/G shoot as this is a good example] but I know AW could do this much better. I'm looking forward to seeing the results,if it ever happens at all [I hope is does].For all of you so set against the idea of B/G shoots at this site let's wait and see the finished video's first, after all this is AW and have they ever disappointed us in the past?

[beautywatcher]

Definatly support GB

Hey guy. Nore BG shoots would be great! it may even entice more females to the site. Cause contrary to popular belief they are just as into porn like us blokes, good quality tasteful shoots, just like this site already does better than anyone!!

Keep up the good work AW!

[TyrannicFeenix]

I think this would be good. I enjoyed the few that I found on the site and would definately be happy to pay a bit more to see them. And those who don't like just don't need to pay the extra.

[franciscus]

Please no GB shoots! One of the reasons why I like this site is that there are only girls here.