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    Originally posted by BigSpud View Post
    Can't forget this:
    Fixed that one, thanks. Though it's currently still true actually

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      Funny, the page still comes up with no picture but if you click on the tiny square in the middle there it will in a few seconds give the picture.

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        Michelle and Chloe B have hit the streets in the search of AW models, they've certainly found some lovelies. They have some POTD coming your way.. Enjoy!

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          Originally posted by Lili View Post
          Michelle and Chloe B have hit the streets in the search of AW models, they've certainly found some lovelies. They have some POTD coming your way.. Enjoy!
          Very much looking forward to enjoying

          I spent a few idle moments whilst being taken for a walk by the dog trying to adapt the lyrics of The Beatles Yellow Submarine to include modelling and yellow clog, alas and fortunately for all concerned with conspicuous lack of success, so far...

          tom

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            Originally posted by Chico_Hamilton View Post
            There used to be. I don't know if I'm allowed to mention the name, but it's not GarfunkelImages. It was almost as good as here, it had a message board where you could chat to models (well, mainly one model), and some of the best GG stuff you ever saw outside of here. But there's no GG there anymore, not been for years, so I never rejoined. Now AW can be the option for UK Models who want to do GG, but in a classier way than is now the norm for British porn sites (ie the 'oh lick my wet pusssy you dirty bitch' while gurning in an unconvincing way )
            Sorry, thought I'd replied to this ages ago. I know what you're referring to with 'Garfunkel Images' and it used to be right up there with my favourites, but it is miles away from AW in terms of classiness etc. Normal everyday girls of all shapes an sizes without loads of makeup, bodily enhancements, and bloody fuck-me shoes is just what I want, and that's exactly what I've been getting here for years. Long may it continue!

            Does anyone know what's happened to GoW? I thought they were based in Oz as well; have they had the same problems with censorship etc?

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              Originally posted by Chico_Hamilton View Post
              Now AW can be the option for UK Models who want to do GG, but in a classier way than is now the norm for British porn sites (ie the 'oh lick my wet pusssy you dirty bitch' while gurning in an unconvincing way )
              Yes! Why is it that the English/ British can't do online porn: does anyone even know of a UK site featuring UK models that comes close to AW (or even exists at al)l? Maybe it's like football - having invented the game we're now rubbish at it

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                Originally posted by bellmont1 View Post
                does anyone even know of a UK site featuring UK models that comes close to AW (or even exists at al)l?
                No, I don't, and it's not through want of trying.

                Having said that, I've never found any site on the planet that comes close to AW (or Oz sites in general!). I don't know, they just seem to have a wonderful knack of getting everything so right.

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                  Originally posted by bookmanz View Post
                  Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas Oz any more!
                  http://www.abbywinters.com/image/awp..._14_mel_02_jpg
                  It is even possible to locate that picture.

                  The crossing between Nes and Dam streets in front of hotel Rho that is clearly visible behind Chloe and Patience. Here



                  Maybe AW may make some new original contributions to Amsterdam's Sexmuseum, just a few blocks away.

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                    Originally posted by madragoa View Post
                    It is even possible to locate that picture.

                    The crossing between Nes and Dam streets in front of hotel Rho that is clearly visible behind Chloe and Patience. Here



                    Maybe AW may make some new original contributions to Amsterdam's Sexmuseum, just a few blocks away.

                    http://www.sexmuseumamsterdam.nl/index2.html
                    And while visiting the Sexmuseum site take the virtual tour. Panoramas of all floors and many areas about the museum.

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                      While there seems to be a lot of focus on the B/G stuff and the After Dark stuff I hope that all this extra efforts on these things won't take away from the existing site which I seem to have heard very little mentioned about recently.

                      It's all very well creating new things & offering more choice to get more money out of people
                      but I'd quite like to see some of these new bright ideas being used in existing areas site for those of us who already subscribe here, and dare I say it those of us who feel it's become a little stale as of late.

                      One other thing I seem to have noticed is that this month seems to be a very thin month for shoots.
                      While I can understand the reason for this with the whole moving to Amsterdam thing going on I hope that this won't be a repeated thing while staff try to cope with the extra workload for the After Dark & B/G stuff.

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                        I've noticed that, too. The five solo shoots per week that we're supposed to be getting has been reduced to three for the last few weeks, and it looks like it will be the same for next few at least.

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                          Originally posted by RelaxedM View Post
                          While there seems to be a lot of focus on the B/G stuff and the After Dark stuff I hope that all this extra efforts on these things won't take away from the existing site which I seem to have heard very little mentioned about recently.
                          This is concerning me. I was never concerned before, because when there was a debate about B/G, the answer was always 'people don't really want it, so we will only do it occasionally'.
                          Now, we are being told there will be more B/G, whether we want it or not. My concern is whether this is due to the type of girls being signed up in Europe.
                          I look at it from the models' point of view. Aussie girls seem to be very confident in their own bodies and with their sexuality, I'm wondering if this is less so in Europe. Think about it. If you were a 22-year old girl (assuming you're happy to take your clothes off for the camera in the first place, or you wouldn't be an Abby model!), how would you react if you were asked if you'd be prepared to

                          i) have sex on camera
                          ii) have sex with a complete stranger
                          iii) have sex with someone of the same sex?

                          It's been amazing how many Aussie (and English and American, lol) girls have said yes to all three to give us this wonderful collection of natural erotic video. But I'll be honest, if *I* were that 22-year old girl, I'd probably only agree to i). If this is the case with the new recruits, no wonder AW is promoting these G/B shoots with 'real life partners', because maybe this is all they will have.
                          Please will Garion or someone assure us that we will still get the same amount of G/G T3 stuff? I know there's some wonderful Aussie stuff to come from the likes of Blossom (OMG her DIM with Angie was so erotic in itself!) and the UK's own Satine, but please let it continue with natural Dutch, English, German etc girls in the new AW era, and not just a load of G/B you can find anywhere.

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                            When are the first "amsterdam shots" online????

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                              Originally posted by Chico_Hamilton View Post
                              This is concerning me. I was never concerned before, because when there was a debate about B/G, the answer was always 'people don't really want it, so we will only do it occasionally'.
                              Now, we are being told there will be more B/G, whether we want it or not. My concern is whether this is due to the type of girls being signed up in Europe.
                              I look at it from the models' point of view. Aussie girls seem to be very confident in their own bodies and with their sexuality, I'm wondering if this is less so in Europe. Think about it. If you were a 22-year old girl (assuming you're happy to take your clothes off for the camera in the first place, or you wouldn't be an Abby model!), how would you react if you were asked if you'd be prepared to

                              i) have sex on camera
                              ii) have sex with a complete stranger
                              iii) have sex with someone of the same sex?

                              It's been amazing how many Aussie (and English and American, lol) girls have said yes to all three to give us this wonderful collection of natural erotic video. But I'll be honest, if *I* were that 22-year old girl, I'd probably only agree to i). If this is the case with the new recruits, no wonder AW is promoting these G/B shoots with 'real life partners', because maybe this is all they will have.
                              Please will Garion or someone assure us that we will still get the same amount of G/G T3 stuff? I know there's some wonderful Aussie stuff to come from the likes of Blossom (OMG her DIM with Angie was so erotic in itself!) and the UK's own Satine, but please let it continue with natural Dutch, English, German etc girls in the new AW era, and not just a load of G/B you can find anywhere.
                              Well my point about the B/G stuff wasn't so much about it taking content away from the existing site directly like you seem to be worried about. From everything I've seen written about it on here it seems like it's going to be it's own little sub-site with additional an membership fee. I'm not interested in B/G stuff so I won't subscribe to it ... simple really.

                              The point I was hoping to raise with my post was more about quality rather than quantity.
                              It seems every piece of news I read about the site lately is about the launch of this as a separate section or the launch of that as a separate section.
                              I'd quite like to see a few new things tried in the existing sections that i'm already a member of, something that will freshen things up a bit.
                              This site used to try new things frequently. In fact there was a whole section of the site dedicated to it. Sometimes they were successful, sometimes not. But it was never dull.

                              I just hate the idea of having to pay extra just to see something a bit different when I used to get it as an existing subscriber.
                              I miss that aspect of it

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                                Originally posted by RelaxedM View Post
                                While there seems to be a lot of focus on the B/G stuff and the After Dark stuff I hope that all this extra efforts on these things won't take away from the existing site which I seem to have heard very little mentioned about recently.
                                They absolutely will not.

                                It's all very well creating new things & offering more choice to get more money out of peoplebut I'd quite like to see some of these new bright ideas being used in existing areas site for those of us who already subscribe here, and dare I say it those of us who feel it's become a little stale as of late.
                                I'd love to hear more specific detail about what you consider "stale', so we're definitely talking about the same thing? Can you please advise specific shoots, and what you found stale about them? You're welcome to email me directly (garion.hall@abbywinters.com), or post on the boards - please start a new thread, with a meaningful title like "stale shoots lately?".

                                One other thing I seem to have noticed is that this month seems to be a very thin month for shoots. While I can understand the reason for this with the whole moving to Amsterdam thing going on I hope that this won't be a repeated thing while staff try to cope with the extra workload for the After Dark & B/G stuff.
                                You're right, there are fewer solo shoots than normal, thanks for mentioning that. I'm not sure why, but we're looking in to it. We'll be back to regular solo scheduling this week.

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                                  Originally posted by Chico_Hamilton View Post
                                  This is concerning me. I was never concerned before, because when there was a debate about B/G, the answer was always 'people don't really want it, so we will only do it occasionally'.
                                  um, no, I don' t think that has been our stance... my reply to requests has been, (1) it's contentious, it seems to polarize people, and (2) we sometimes had problems with the males, erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation, which made it hard to shoot. GB has always been very popular (and had a few vocal opponents).

                                  We feel we have those problems sorted now (not by using drugs, or herbal remedies, or any of that shit), but I guess you'll have to join the new site to see how.

                                  Now, we are being told there will be more B/G, whether we want it or not.
                                  Well, hang on. You're being told that soon, GB shoots will be available. If you want to pay for them, you can. No one is forcing anything on you!

                                  My concern is whether this is due to the type of girls being signed up in Europe.
                                  I look at it from the models' point of view. Aussie girls seem to be very confident in their own bodies and with their sexuality, I'm wondering if this is less so in Europe. Think about it. If you were a 22-year old girl (assuming you're happy to take your clothes off for the camera in the first place, or you wouldn't be an Abby model!), how would you react if you were asked if you'd be prepared to

                                  i) have sex on camera
                                  ii) have sex with a complete stranger
                                  iii) have sex with someone of the same sex?

                                  It's been amazing how many Aussie (and English and American, lol) girls have said yes to all three to give us this wonderful collection of natural erotic video. But I'll be honest, if *I* were that 22-year old girl, I'd probably only agree to i).
                                  Well, I guess it's lucky for us you're not a 22 year old girl. It's early days for us recruiting here, but early indications are, models seem to be similarly disposed to us as they were in AU.

                                  If this is the case with the new recruits, no wonder AW is promoting these G/B shoots with 'real life partners', because maybe this is all they will have.
                                  You "scare quotes" indicate that you think we're not using real life partners - we absolutely will be, tho how we "verify" the reality of the relationship is questionable. We're certainly not asking for a marriage certificate or anything. Models will be told what we're doing, and, as for all our shoots, asked if they want to participate.

                                  The four GB shoots we have shot were prolly the most difficult shoots we have ever done, so it's laughable for you to suggest it's easier for us to do GB shoots, so we're doing them! That is most def not the case.

                                  Please will Garion or someone assure us that we will still get the same amount of G/G T3 stuff? I know there's some wonderful Aussie stuff to come from the likes of Blossom (OMG her DIM with Angie was so erotic in itself!) and the UK's own Satine, but please let it continue with natural Dutch, English, German etc girls in the new AW era, and not just a load of G/B you can find anywhere.
                                  The amount of T3's will not decrease. We're tossing around the idea of increasing them, but we won't do that til we can be sure the quality will remain the same. Michelle (who handles most T3 stuff) is dead keen, I'm a little more hesitant. That being said, Frankie, one of our editors who came with us from Melbourne, was telling everyone at the office today that int he last week he has edited three of the best T3's he's ever seen (and he has edited all of them for the last few years, so that's really saying something!).

                                  Our GB stuff will be considerably different from other stuff out there - if it's not, we'll stop doing it, cos it's not going to be of value to our members - or us.

                                  As I said in my first post, the type of models we shoot will not change - we're using the same advertising methods, introducing them to the project in the same way, with the same Staff (That's Chloe B's job, she's been with us for a few years now), and shooting them the same way.

                                  The only thing that will change is the accents, and perhaps some European "style", tho I am not really sure what that means - there are beautiful women everywhere in the world.

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                                    Originally posted by furryfurry View Post
                                    When are the first "amsterdam shots" online????
                                    We'll be sure to let you know, in the shoot rave on the members news page. Still some time away.

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                                      Originally posted by garionhall View Post
                                      As I said in my first post, the type of models we shoot will not change - we're using the same advertising methods, introducing them to the project in the same way, with the same Staff (That's Chloe B's job, she's been with us for a few years now), and shooting them the same way.

                                      The only thing that will change is the accents, and perhaps some European "style", tho I am not really sure what that means - there are beautiful women everywhere in the world.
                                      I'll try to help you out on that one. The 'european style' is usually meant to describe east-European models, doing everything which is expected for the scene but without much emotion showing. Coupled with lotsa of producers not knowing when to stop applying make-up and you get a very 'plasticky' feel to the shoots. It's weird in way, they're doing all the correct things, but it doesn't have the desired effect. People coming across more 'aloof' then they really are (reactions to Petra years ago might help, I remember you being somewhat amazed by that).

                                      Companies like VivThomas have shown that you *can* in fact shoot east-European models (which are indeed very beautiful) and have them express passion/desire. It's not impossible, just takes a bit of effort, which some producers don't want to expend. Anyway, that is what people are afraid off when the describe 'european style' problems, 'going through the motions' type of stuff.

                                      Hmm.. did that help at all ?

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                                        Originally posted by Frans View Post

                                        Hmm.. did that help at all ?
                                        It did indeed Frans, thanks, as did Garion's informative replies, as he wrote in the first post on this thread:-

                                        "We'll riff on a variety of interpretations (like After Dark), but our core values remain the same."

                                        I'm looking forward to seeing the fruits of all the 'riffing', if I like it I can continue to pay for it if not, well then not.

                                        tom

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                                          LULZ...I go away for a while, and when I get back someone has rearranged the furniture

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                                            Originally posted by bobdown33 View Post
                                            LULZ...I go away for a while, and when I get back someone has rearranged the furniture
                                            That happens sometimes. It would have happened even if you had stayed, it just would not have been a surprise.......

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                                              Just an update on the missing solo shoots. We have found the root of the problem and fixed it. Back to regular solos for this week. Thanks again for checking us on it.

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                                                Originally posted by garionhall View Post
                                                Well, I guess it's lucky for us you're not a 22 year old girl. It's early days for us recruiting here, but early indications are, models seem to be similarly disposed to us as they were in AU.

                                                Ha ha ha, it's probably lucky for you all, your subscriptions would nose dive!
                                                Anyway, I'm glad to hear it. Are most of the models you are recruiting Dutch or a mixture of nationalities?

                                                Originally posted by garionhall View Post
                                                As I said in my first post, the type of models we shoot will not change - we're using the same advertising methods, introducing them to the project in the same way, with the same Staff (That's Chloe B's job, she's been with us for a few years now), and shooting them the same way.
                                                Well Chloe B did a brilliant job with the models she recruited in Australia. I hope she will occasionally go in front of the camera too for a few G/Gs, the ones she did with Irene and Angie were particularly awesome, and it might be a bit of an incentive to girls considering doing a T3 (Chloe, twiddling gorgeous flowing locks: "Yeah, and you get to sleep with me!" Model: "Where do I sign?")

                                                I am curious how you recruit your models, there must be a post on it somewhere, can whoever made it point me in the general direction of where it is on these boards?

                                                And are you considering the idea of recruiting in the UK? I can walk down the street in Manchester or Birmingham or London and see so many gorgeous women, I'm sure some of them must be up for AW!

                                                Anyway, thanks Garion for your informative replies.

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                                                  Originally posted by garionhall View Post
                                                  Frankie, one of our editors who came with us from Melbourne, was telling everyone at the office today that int he last week he has edited three of the best T3's he's ever seen (and he has edited all of them for the last few years, so that's really saying something!).
                                                  OK, that totally makes my anticipation of those shoots ridiculously high. Care to drop any hints about which models feature in those three T3s? Those would still be Australian shoots yeah?

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                                                    We're still awaiting T3s involving Blossom and also Satine, both really lovely models so hopefully these are up soon.

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                                                      Originally posted by garionhall View Post
                                                      Just an update on the missing solo shoots. We have found the root of the problem and fixed it. Back to regular solos for this week. Thanks again for checking us on it.
                                                      If today marked the return to regular service then what a splendid and exemplary way to do it with those three awesome solos; Anna, Natalie and Samantha.

                                                      tom

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                                                        Have you guys revised the t3 video release timelines? Seems like we will be getting 2 t3 shoots per week instead of just one.

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                                                          ooopsie, we got a little enthusiastic there! That's a mistake, we're fixing it now - 1 GGT3 a week.

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                                                            hey peeps,

                                                            Yeah, I am the editor of the girl girl videos for abby. Not the worst job going around huh Anyway I thought I would join the discussion and make my first post. And that is some kind of achievement as I have been editing at abby for almost 4 years. So hopefully this isnt the last post and I would be happy to answer any queries or questions you may have about specific content or anything you might be looking for. I am very familiar with what video has gone up on the site for the last few years. Anyway I'll get to the point. There has been some excellent girl girl shoots. Some really passionate hardcore girl girl sex with hot models. My recommendations to look out for are as follows:
                                                            Chloe B & Lailie
                                                            Anna L & Danielle Y
                                                            Blossom & Jaclyn
                                                            Jaclyn & Evette
                                                            Jaclyn & Tricia L
                                                            These vids will be released in the couple of months so stay on the look out. They are hot. And come highly recommended. Also I reviewed a redux solo with Lailie the other day. Amazing video, best solo I think I have ever seen. So keep a keen eye out for that too. Multiple orgasms in one video!

                                                            ok later

                                                            frankie

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                                                              Chloe B & Lailie
                                                              WOW. Never even knew this was one coming from the behind the scenes pics, although Lailie did cryptically state that she worked with a popular model. I just had no idea it was Chloe.

                                                              Garion mentioned that the complete footage from the Angie/Blaire t3 shoot might still be around somewhere. Were you guys able to look into that? I think a lot of members would love to see the complete uncut version now that you are in the Netherlands. Wax play ftw!

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