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    #31
    Hi Guys,

    Firstly as requested by mrpinkeyes I have created a forum where you guys can ask me questions or place your comments on the site. The link is below:
    http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=14683

    I will be sure to comment here regularly to keep you guys posted on creative goings on. But also just so you guys know I read the comments to every shoot thread so I am in regular contact with your opinions.

    To clarify what abbywinters.com is about as requested by mrpinkeyes. We are trying to capture real, natural girls in their own environments and clothes, doing activities that they want and are passionate about. We want to depict the realness and beauty of girls as they naturally are. We value happy and healthy models who have fun! We are also attempting to create a site that is interesting and industry leading with new creative advancements and ideas. You may have seen recently the mystery shoot, radio podcast, aw education and editors choice features and we have plans for many more exciting additions that are in the spirit of what we are trying to achieve.

    Regarding staged shoots. We sometimes create a premise for a girl-girl shoot and for an intimate moments. However this is always a collaboration with the models and the shooters, working together to come up with something they are inspired by. With the masturbation shoots we try and film the models natural routine and do some research about her habits and then we re-create this which sometimes includes a storyline or a premise. It can also be used in a girl-girl shoots when the shooters and models have something that they are keen to explore. The intention of these is to add a little of interest, tease, seduction into the opening and to allow the models to explore things they are interested in sexually and also for the shooters to explore some ideas they have. I agree sometimes this has not worked well and we never want to have models acting in a way that is unnatural or forced and that they are not initiating as something they are interested in doing. The major focus of the girl-girl shoots is to film passionate sex and this always comes number 1 to anything else. As with intimate moments and capturing the models masturbation routine as if you were a fly on the wall.


    I hope that answers your questions and please let me know anything else you guys query and I will be sure to update that thread regularly.

    Ok Guys, keep enjoying the site

    Best,

    Frankie

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      #32
      Thanks Frankie...
      Gave a good insight and pleased with most of the answers. (As in agreed and pleased with the direction of the answers).

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        #33
        While trying to find a old thread... That "advanced search" thing is really not being my friend today...

        I came across an old thread on a related topic Tattoos & Piercings including a couple of posts that I thought apt for here....

        Originally posted by Vid Dude View Post
        I've noticed that lately a lot of people have been mentioning how models with piercings or tattoos turn them off, and even if they're the cutest sweetest girl they've ever seen grace this site, they don't care anymore if she is marred by a tattoo or pierced anything. Even the reviews of the VHS video say similar stuff.

        Well, I don't know what things are like in the US these days, but here you'd be hard put to find any girl at all who doesn't have one or the other. It's increasingly popular, and it's not just girls who are inclined to model nude that do it anymore, it's everybody. I was wandering through Sydney yesterday, on a nice Spring afternoon, and I swear to you, almost every single girl over 18 had either a pierced navel, lip, nose, or eyebrow, or a tattoo on her arm, back, hip, or ankle...

        I'm afraid you will just have to accept it. We have to. We won't ask them to remove their piercings, and we sure can't do anything about their tattoos. Such are the way of things now, and there's no turning back.

        So there you go. Please don't leave us in droves img tag disable, use attachment mgr/system to add images to postshttp://www.abbywinters.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif If our models have tattoos, then that's the way it is. If they don't, rejoice. But it won't be that way for long, I fear, it's the cultural transformation of the modern young woman.
        Originally posted by Giselle View Post
        It's worth remembering that 99% of AW models are not professionals, they are regular girls who have decided to do this kind or work (generally only once or twice) for whatever reason. They don't consider a 'viewer' or complete stranger's opinion when they decide to get a tattoo/piercing/dye their hair/wax or not wax, etc. It's something they, as regular 'women next door', do for themselves.
        Food for thought maybe....

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          #34

          I can't wait until my photo set and video comes out I'll be interested in the feedback on my tattoos

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            #35
            well Pippa, by the way this thread started the only negitive feedback about it would be if AW asked you to hide them

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              #36
              Originally posted by timbo83 View Post
              well Pippa, by the way this thread started the only negitive feedback about it would be if AW asked you to hide them
              During my videos I made no effort to hide them as I was enjoying myself....
              Hum.. but....
              No I'm sure I was naked during one of the IM I did... I think....

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                #37
                A new shoot with a girl hiding her tattoos has been released: Pippa & Yale.
                Pippa would have looked better if she had been allowed to remove her top.
                There are many moments in the video where the only visible nude part of her body is her ass.
                Even if her ass look great, I would have preferred to see her fully naked.

                I'm not a big fan of tattoos but I really like to see the models fully naked.
                AW used to show us that all the parts of a female body could look great.
                I don't think that stopping to do it just to hide the fact that a girl has tattoos is a good idea.

                When a part of a model body isn't showed (not filmed or under clothes), we now that it's because of her tattoos.
                The girl doesn't look more amateur because you don't show us her tattoos.
                Members are smart enough to understand that a girl which accepts to get naked in front of a camera is more adventurous than the average and may have tattoos.

                There has been great models with tattoos (ie: Klaudia) or piercings (ie: Shaminee) on the website before.
                There wasn't any problem at the time.
                I don't understand why you have to change it now that you have moved to Amsterdam.

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                  #38
                  Why do some people keep trying to flog a dead dog. The tattoo rational has been masterfully examined by Rhyss, Kylie, Masie and Pippa herself. Or does nobody remember a totally naked Pippa ( in all of her tattooed glory) salsa dancing in the middle of a four lane highway.

                  Awesome body art by the way Pippa.

                  I joined AW many years ago because they depicted REAL young ladies in NATURAL conditions. I personally see no change in this policy and applaud the creative team.

                  Body art , no matter what your opinion of it, is perfectly natural theses days, just like Beatle cuts were a couple of decades ago. Congratulations to Kylie, Rhyss, Masie and all the gang for keeping up with the times.

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                    #39
                    I thought the issue was that people were bothered that AW policy went so far to HIDE tattoos, often to the point of distraction. Which is pretty lame. All of Pippa is beautiful. Not just the skin without ink.

                    I think their tattoo policies way back when might have even caused Fotina to stop modelling here. I can't remember exactly, though.
                    Last edited by panaflex; 18 February 2013, 05:14 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by panaflex View Post
                      I thought the issue was that people were bothered that AW policy went so far to HIDE tattoos, often to the point of distraction. Which is pretty lame. All of Pippa is beautiful. Not such the skin without ink.

                      I think their tattoo policies way back when might have even caused Fotina to stop modelling here. I can't remember exactly, though.
                      Agreed.... Think Greybrother may have got confused on the point of the thread.... Also... the amazing shoot of "a totally naked Pippa (in all of her tattooed glory) salsa dancing in the middle of a four lane highway." Was actually done before this.. and it does seem that most of the covering is in the G/G shoots... Maybe has something more to do with the DVD side of things that whats on the site.

                      I can also confirm... That although no matter how keen Fotina and all her fans were for her to come back for more shoots AWHQ said no... and only brought her back in to shoot with Zora an equally tattoo lady.... But what an amazing result... One of the most intense, high powered and raw G/G shoot on the site...

                      But as I have previously mentioned if a little covering means we get Pippa back for more shoots then I am more than happy for that, although would prefer no covering. My concern is by once again making a fuss on the boards about it will only stop them shooting tattooed ladies totally.

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                        #41
                        Hi everyone, I'm quite new around here thus my opinion isn't based on an "history" with the website.
                        What made Abbywinters so appealing to me was its unique policy about the kind of shoots they present, the girls showed "as they are" with no fake edge to them. Of course, from the moment you put a camera in front of someone, the "spontaneous act" is somewhat spoiled: people can feel at ease as much as they can, but yet they KNOW there will be someone looking at them, and this changes their attitude wheter they want it or not.
                        I can understand the reasons for the tattoo policy, both for protecting the girls'privacy and to preserve the "natural edge", but then why accepting a tattooed girl in the first place if you have to go through the efforts (sometimes ridicolous) of hiding her tatooes? Because she's gorgeous, I can relate to that, but if you have a policy, then stick to that, don't try to go around it!
                        I apologize for my English, I hope I made myself clear enough...

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                          #42
                          I am not much of a poster on the boards but I need to weigh in on this topic. The Yale Pippa video is anoying because she had to keep pulling her sleeves up or tossing the front of her sweater to the side. I assume the sweater was to hide the bulk of the tats. Unless she needed to conceal a name or symbol the sweater was a turn off. She has tats and if AW is going to use her then let the tats show. Frankly, I do not like tats but then some men may not like clear skin. I wonder why a beautiful woman goes to the expense, trouble and pain to annoint their body as Pippa has. Since so much of her tats are on her back that SHE can't see I don't understand the purpose of it. Who is it for and why then cover it up with the sweater? Seeing some models with heavy tats is not going to make me discontinue my membership but I enjoy the non tatooed models better.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by redsails View Post
                            I assume the sweater was to hide the bulk of the tats..
                            Yes I have no problem going completely naked, as seen in my solo video with me running and jumping naked by a motorway!

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Elauriano View Post
                              I can understand the reasons for the tattoo policy, both for protecting the girls'privacy
                              If a girl with tattoos wants to protect her privacy going naked on a porn site isn't the way to go tattoos or no tattoos!

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by pippa View Post
                                Originally posted by Elauriano View Post
                                I can understand the reasons for the tattoo policy, both for protecting the girls'privacy
                                If a girl with tattoos wants to protect her privacy going naked on a porn site isn't the way to go tattoos or no tattoos!
                                Good point, and I do agree that covering a tatoo for privacy reasons when your faces are very well visible sounds kind of ridicolous (I guess it's easier to recognize a girl by her face more than a tatoo on her mound!), but since people at AW used the “privacy” as one of the reasons to hide the tatoos, I was trying to get in their shoes... sort of...
                                [EDIT] and yes, what mrpinky added after me is one of the good reasons to hide SOME of them.

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                                  #46
                                  Hey Pippa...
                                  I think Elauriano may have been referring to that some models have requested some of their tattoo not be shown as it has someones name or something similar... (So AWHQ have previously mention as a reason for hiding tattoos).

                                  Ok.... am I slow.. or observant.... have you just changed your avatar... Nice....

                                  Pinky

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                                    #47
                                    Originally posted by mrpinkeyes View Post
                                    Hey Pippa...
                                    I think Elauriano may have been referring to that some models have requested some of their tattoo not be shown as it has someones name or something similar... (So AWHQ have previously mention as a reason for hiding tattoos).

                                    Ok.... am I slow.. or observant.... have you just changed your avatar... Nice....

                                    Pinky
                                    No I just changed it

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                                      #48
                                      Originally posted by mrpinkeyes View Post
                                      My concern is by once again making a fuss on the boards about it will only stop them shooting tattooed ladies totally.
                                      In 2013?
                                      That would be commercial suicide.

                                      This place has never gone back to it's original release schedule and two years later we find out that it never will. Let's face it, it's being padded with all sorts of stuff that nobody really wants, people want to see new models. Not silly discussions about naming body parts.
                                      I don't think they're in any position to tell any tattooed model they not needed here based on that alone because right now they need all the all the new models they can get.

                                      Virtually everybody in this thread has said they have no issues with tattoos anyway, so don't be concerned, you're a paying customer you're allowed an opinion. The last thing you should worry about is upsetting management here, They're a business, it's your money they want.

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                                        #49
                                        I keep suggesting that there is a mystery shoot with two tattooed models (or tattooed girls 3-some?) that aren't covered during the shoot.. I don't know..

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                                          #50
                                          The same thing two weeks in a row: Emily B & Estella Z

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                                            #51
                                            I dont like tatooes for the simple reason that i like change. tattooes are boring to me, like wearing a t shirt for the rest of of your life. So boring. But having said that, life would be so sad without Pippa in our world! Or any other girl with tats on this site! This site should be about all kinds of different girls, skinny, small tits, weird looking, spungie, peircied, massive tits, crazie ass girls like you know who, sweet little dream my self to sleep girls, any type girls. Thats what this site is all about. So fuckin stop covering up tats like you all of a sudden is a religious site. If you start covering up silly things like tats, what are u gonna cover up next? Dont fuck up this site with stupid cencorship please! I used to be on the best internet forum in the world. That site was destroyed by people who cencored everything written there, and the site died. Dont do that to this awsome site please!

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                                              #52
                                              I just came back from working with Abby Winters and shot with no tattoo coverage
                                              There will be a few shoots with tattoo covering coming up due to the Abby Winters backlog of photo and video shoots but they have listened (in my case anyway).
                                              I do have a few videos/photos where I am covering due to being filmed before the discussion on the forum happened. But no fear.. I am no longer expected to cover up in future shoots.

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                                                #53
                                                Originally posted by pippa View Post
                                                I just came back from working with Abby Winters and shot with no tattoo coverage
                                                There will be a few shoots with tattoo covering coming up due to the Abby Winters backlog of photo and video shoots but they have listened (in my case anyway).
                                                I do have a few videos/photos where I am covering due to being filmed before the discussion on the forum happened. But no fear.. I am no longer expected to cover up in future shoots.
                                                Evviva!!! (which is the Italian for yay!)

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