Suggestions for Girl-Girl videos

[guyburns]

A challenge for members who have had lots of experience with AW. I'd like suggestions, please.

Suggestion 1 – Vanilla
• no tattoos
• no piercings
• little or no open mouths (because it too often looks fake)
• no exotic positions

Something with two models on a bed, and everything is fairly simple and plain. Above all, it should be believable and not look staged.

Suggestion 2 – Wild
In contrast, I'd like some suggestions for videos or stills with genital piercings, the wilder the better, the more unbelievable the better.

Suggestion 3 – Fun
A fun video or shoot. I've downloaded Hiking Girls and BMX Girls. Love em. None of the other items found under "Fun" or "Group" interested me, though, so there's no need to suggest any under those categories.

Suggestion 4 – Zany
Hard to describe this category. Something outlandish, something almost Monty Pythonish, that can't be taken to seriously, even though the model might be serious and in earnest. An example is http://www.abbywinters.com/nude_girl...e_4/video/clip, at 7.45 where she says: "I got my clit pierced about two years ago… I woke up one morning and decided it would be a fun thing to do".

She's quite serious – but sorry, Blaire, while you were talking I was imagining John Cleese in your role. I had to chuckle.

Suggestion 5 – Long Fingernails
Okay, I grant I'm weird. My partner and I were watching some AW and SexArt videos, and on came this woman with very long, sharp looking fingernails, placing them inside another woman. My partner said to me: "You can skip to the next video. I wouldn't want those nails anywhere near me". I said to her: "I'm going to find some more videos like that, extract the nail sequences, put the Jaws music behind it (da Da da Da da Da…), and call it Claws! The world's first horror porn video.

Suggestions for the above would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

[bexar75]

Something I'd like to see on AW

I would love to see lesbian seduction scenes where a straight girl is seduced into lesbian sex. At first she would be hesitant and resist, but of course she would eventually get into the sex. I understand AW doesn't "script" scenes and I love that about AW; this would just be role play like people do in their private sex lives all the time. The "seduction" could grow out of a massage, or combing the straight girl's hair, or a girl could ask her straight friend to help her shave her pussy ... something like that.

Another scene I would love to see would be one girl asks another for help because her BF wants anal sex and she's afraid it will hurt. So her GF teaches her how to prepare and relax her back door, using fingers and dildos. Oh, also love mild bondage; not the painful crazy stuff, just gentle restraints.

Love your site! Thanks.

A challenge for members who have had lots of experience with AW. I'd like suggestions, please.

Suggestion 1 – Vanilla
• no tattoos
• no piercings
• little or no open mouths (because it too often looks fake)
• no exotic positions

Something with two models on a bed, and everything is fairly simple and plain. Above all, it should be believable and not look staged.

Suggestion 2 – Wild
In contrast, I'd like some suggestions for videos or stills with genital piercings, the wilder the better, the more unbelievable the better.

Suggestion 3 – Fun
A fun video or shoot. I've downloaded Hiking Girls and BMX Girls. Love em. None of the other items found under "Fun" or "Group" interested me, though, so there's no need to suggest any under those categories.

Suggestion 4 – Zany
Hard to describe this category. Something outlandish, something almost Monty Pythonish, that can't be taken to seriously, even though the model might be serious and in earnest. An example is http://www.abbywinters.com/nude_girl...e_4/video/clip, at 7.45 where she says: "I got my clit pierced about two years ago… I woke up one morning and decided it would be a fun thing to do".

She's quite serious – but sorry, Blaire, while you were talking I was imagining John Cleese in your role. I had to chuckle.

Suggestion 5 – Long Fingernails
Okay, I grant I'm weird. My partner and I were watching some AW and SexArt videos, and on came this woman with very long, sharp looking fingernails, placing them inside another woman. My partner said to me: "You can skip to the next video. I wouldn't want those nails anywhere near me". I said to her: "I'm going to find some more videos like that, extract the nail sequences, put the Jaws music behind it (da Da da Da da Da…), and call it Claws! The world's first horror porn video.

Suggestions for the above would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

[boomertoo]

There are so many GG scenes I would like to see but here's just one possibility:

Suggestion for alternative GG scene:
While two models are having sex a third is masturbating while watching. This is similar to the threesome with Kiki, Chloe and Larissa but the third model here would not involve with the others. If the third model is new to AW this could help introduce her to the GG scenario and smooth her progression to her own first GG later.
Variations include all three starting on camera or the third entering later.
The accompanying pre-shoot:
Similar to current format but include the third model on camera. The two models would ask about what they like sexually but instead of explaining each would demonstrate on the third model. Anything further than kissing or touching would best be left for the shoot itself, but then more than this really does not need to be discussed at this point.
A variation on this is with the two models starting with some sexy stories with the third entering on-screen when needed. The third model would certainly have an interesting start to her day!
The accompanying post-shoot
Same as usual but it would be interesting to hear the third model's reaction especially if she were new to AW.

Having the same third model for both GG and pre-shoot scenes would create a nice "flow".

[buio60]

There are so many GG scenes I would like to see but here's just one possibility:

Suggestion for alternative GG scene:
While two models are having sex a third is masturbating while watching. This is similar to the threesome with Kiki, Chloe and Larissa but the third model here would not involve with the others. If the third model is new to AW this could help introduce her to the GG scenario and smooth her progression to her own first GG later.
Variations include all three starting on camera or the third entering later.
The accompanying pre-shoot:
Similar to current format but include the third model on camera. The two models would ask about what they like sexually but instead of explaining each would demonstrate on the third model. Anything further than kissing or touching would best be left for the shoot itself, but then more than this really does not need to be discussed at this point.
A variation on this is with the two models starting with some sexy stories with the third entering on-screen when needed. The third model would certainly have an interesting start to her day!
The accompanying post-shoot
Same as usual but it would be interesting to hear the third model's reaction especially if she were new to AW.

Having the same third model for both GG and pre-shoot scenes would create a nice "flow".

Just loved this idea. It's exciting to see a rookie watching the other two.

[buio60]

I'd like to see some more domination-oriented girl-girl updates, like this old one: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...nnalisa_blaire
It's so erotic the ascendance Annalisa has over Blaire.

[Raymondhlv2]

I like to see models cuddle each other tight and conduct long romantic conversation.

[Raymondhlv2]

I'd like to see some more domination-oriented girl-girl updates

I like it a lot too.

[teddys35]

I agree with Raymond The romantic stuff...

[boomertoo]

I like to see models cuddle each other tight and conduct long romantic conversation.

I agree with Raymond The romantic stuff...

That's a nice thought Raymond and Teddy. I too am a lover of the romantic rather than just base sex. Portraying romance is a nice idea but it is something near impossible to achieve because, ultimately, sites are there to sell sex, not romance.

As members we know that what we see is a pre-arranged sexual encounter between paid models who have probably just met and not girls who have become so attracted to each other that making love is the natural extension to this, as would likely happen in real life. Under these circumstances it would be hard for the models and the videographer to portray any sense of "romance". It is in fact very rarely achieved to any extent. But then the question arises: As sex is the end product is "romance" really what any site needs to achieve?

Certainly some models do seem to connect immediately which does translate in the ensuing shoot, though I would offer the opinion that the meeting is more hectic than romantic in these cases. There are also instances where a model is attracted to another and keen to shoot with her. This is occasionally arranged with a degree of success.

I believe one example of a reasonably successful "romantic" shoot would be that between Cleo and Larissa. (http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...cleo_larissa_m). In this shoot the initial lead-in scene is longer than usual and, a very interesting point, is accompanied by music as a way to enhance the connection between the two girls. Perhaps it is an approach that could be reproduced now and then although that in no way guarantees a romantic display due to the circumstances under which the models are put together.

When I watch a video I like to believe that there is a reason for the two girls to join in lovemaking; a truly romantic attachment is the ideal reason but, as I said, this is a very difficult notion to portray and one which is probably not relevant enough for any site to pursue. I'll just have to continue using my imagination!

[georgexxx20]

Boomertoo is correct, it’s difficult to portray romance between two people on a pornographic site. All pornography (even AW) at the end of the day, going back hundreds of years, is a means to get off purely on the level of sex for an individual or a couple who want to spice up their sex life. Real intense enjoyment, carefree fun between participants, artistic visual beauty even, can be portrayed in porn (which almost uniquely AW does brilliantly) but not romantic love which is not porn’s remit. Romantic love is a deep closeness between two people in the real world who share their life together and is not always carefree and sometimes does not have a happy-ending. Porn always has a happy ending-the orgasm. Narrative based cinema can get very near it though like Blue is the Warmest Colour (the sex scenes reminded me of AW). So if you want to see romantic love portrayed on the screen alongside sex watch classic erotic arthouse movies like Last Tango in Paris or In the Realm of the Senses.

[lulu121]

I like to see models cuddle each other tight and conduct long romantic conversation.

with forplay

the best scene is : http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...abrielle_jamie

this one is very good too : http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...isabella_jenny

[boomertoo]

Lulu, it's interesting to see that both these shoots are from 2003. The second one is also a T2, a category which isn't shot any more. I did post this on another thread:

shoots began with a lot more kissing in the very early days (say around 2004/5/6 or so). Generally speaking this has slowly disappeared over the years, although I wouldn't know why this is so. As someone who enjoys seeing two models in passionate embrace I too am disappointed that for a long while now the lead-in shots consist mostly of a few quick kisses and then straight into the action.

Masie replied, saying she will talk to the models about this trend away from kissing but I would also like to hear your views, including whether you like/dislike a lot of kissing with your partners.

[Jada]

Boomer, this user is not Lulu the model, it's a member
It's interesting to see so many members asking for more romance and saying that romance is impossible to portray in porn, because I find the sex on AW some of the most romantic you can see! The way the girls hold hands, gaze into each other's eyes, caress lovingly, and shower each other with sweet compliments is, to me, already very romantic and tender.

[Grump35953]

Boomer, this user is not Lulu the model, it's a member
It's interesting to see so many members asking for more romance and saying that romance is impossible to portray in porn, because I find the sex on AW some of the most romantic you can see! The way the girls hold hands, gaze into each other's eyes, caress lovingly, and shower each other with sweet compliments is, to me, already very romantic and tender.

YES! Thank you, Jada! I love to watch the AW models get romantic; it's one reason why AW is the only adult site I'd ever want to be a member of. And I think that's why some models, like Noa, are so popular; she loves to get to know whoever she's shooting with, like in her wonderful DIM's with Claudia S. or Caisa, or her GG with...well, Jada. And many of my other favorite shoots (like Catalina/Esmerelda and several of Mirai's DIMs) work because there are affectionate moments; it's just one way for the models to show their excitement and their growing interest in each other. So, yeah. More kissing and cuddling to go with the licking and fingering, please!

[boomertoo]

Boomer, this user is not Lulu the model, it's a member

Jada, thanks for that - I think I need to invest in new glasses and apologise to both Lulus!

On the subject of "romance", maybe "relationship" is a better word to use. It is those few lead-in moments that set the tone for the shoot and for me they mostly fail to suggest a relationship between two girls that would naturally lead them into a sexual encounter. Whether this relationship is shown through fun, romance or just animal attraction it is so difficult to depict when it doesn't really exist, simply because the models only have a recent and brief relationship to draw on. Obviously I will qualify that opinion because some models will connect almost immediately and that would likely make the ensuing shoot more comfortable for them.

Perhaps the best lead-in to a shoot remains that between Cleo and Larissa: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...cleo_larissa_m. I believe that this does set up a relationship between the girls and provides a smooth transition into the shoot proper. I don't know whether it is worthwhile investing in a little more planning and an extra minute or two of shooting at the start to reproduce similar scenarios. Only AW can answer that question.
Perhaps one alternative is to occasionally cut out any attempt to set up a scenario by producing shoots that have no lead-in, much as many were in earlier years where the scenes began with the models embracing. Lot more kissing then too!

Producing the effect of a romantic relationship remains virtually impossible for any site basically concerned with sex, but AW certainly comes closest.

Of course, all of the above is only my opinion as a member. Yours, as a model, is far more valuable and I would be so interested to hear if you think I am mostly correct or, more likely, totally wrong!

[Darianblood]

I'd like to see something similar to Bexar75's idea but more geniune. One site regular girl and one straight (well, bi-curious naturally) girl who has never, ever been with another girl before but wants to try!

I know this could be difficult as first you have to find a girl who doesn't mind losing her girl/girl virginity for AW and then it could all fall apart if she has last minute nerves or finds she doesn't enjoy it after all but if it worked i think it could be really beautiful to see this nervous first timer gently coaxed into her first time with another girl

[Frans]

I'd like to see something similar to Bexar75's idea but more geniune. One site regular girl and one straight (well, bi-curious naturally) girl who has never, ever been with another girl before but wants to try!

I know this could be difficult as first you have to find a girl who doesn't mind losing her girl/girl virginity for AW and then it could all fall apart if she has last minute nerves or finds she doesn't enjoy it after all but if it worked i think it could be really beautiful to see this nervous first timer gently coaxed into her first time with another girl

There have been several shoots with girls who haven't had sex with girls before shooting. Not sure if there's a tag for that, but most recent Carmen M's shoot comes to mind; http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...atrix_carmen_m

[massfan3]

I love first-time-ever girl-girl shoots, and luckily it's an Abby Winters specialty! It's so beautiful to see one girl getting over her nerves as she has her first experience with a girl, while her partner sweetly welcomes her into a new world of pleasure. It's a really special moment that lots of Abby models have invited the members to share with them, and I'm always so grateful. Here are just a few that leap to mind.

Billie had her first time with Bobbie: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...illie_t_bobbie
Renae had her first time with Nichole: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...ichole_renae_d
Mila had her first time with Sasha: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...s/mila_sasha_m
Jada had her first time with Kenji: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...ing/jada_kenji

I can come up with more if you'd like, but that should get you started.

[Darianblood]

I'd like to see something similar to Bexar75's idea but more geniune. One site regular girl and one straight (well, bi-curious naturally) girl who has never, ever been with another girl before but wants to try!

I know this could be difficult as first you have to find a girl who doesn't mind losing her girl/girl virginity for AW and then it could all fall apart if she has last minute nerves or finds she doesn't enjoy it after all but if it worked i think it could be really beautiful to see this nervous first timer gently coaxed into her first time with another girl

There have been several shoots with girls who haven't had sex with girls before shooting. Not sure if there's a tag for that, but most recent Carmen M's shoot comes to mind; http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...atrix_carmen_m

Wow, thanks Frans! There seriously needs to be a tag for that if there isnt!

I love first-time-ever girl-girl shoots, and luckily it's an Abby Winters specialty! It's so beautiful to see one girl getting over her nerves as she has her first experience with a girl, while her partner sweetly welcomes her into a new world of pleasure. It's a really special moment that lots of Abby models have invited the members to share with them, and I'm always so grateful. Here are just a few that leap to mind.


Billie had her first time with Bobbie: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...illie_t_bobbie
Renae had her first time with Nichole: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...ichole_renae_d
Mila had her first time with Sasha: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...s/mila_sasha_m
Jada had her first time with Kenji: http://www.abbywinters.com/girl_girl...ing/jada_kenji


I can come up with more if you'd like, but that should get you started.

Massfan3 You are the greatest! Thanks so much!

[massfan3]

Happy to help! I'd love to hear what you thought of these classic shoots if you watch any of them.

[sanpete]

Sexual Development

I think there should be girl-girl videos where the girls discuss their sexual history and development in an erotic sense. They tell each other about their early sexual development from finding and touching themselves to playing sexually with others, especially other girls. Be specific about their age, what happened and what led up to events. Discuss their physical development and what they were thinking and desiring at the time. Talk about why they want to experience each other. They should touch and play with each other while they are telling their stories. This could go in a lot of different directions. Leave out the giggling, it should be about turning each other on.

This type of thing could be done in solo videos also which would lead to masturbation.

[Jada]

I think there should be girl-girl videos where the girls discuss their sexual history and development in an erotic sense. They tell each other about their early sexual development from finding and touching themselves to playing sexually with others, especially other girls. Be specific about their age, what happened and what led up to events. Discuss their physical development and what they were thinking and desiring at the time. Talk about why they want to experience each other. They should touch and play with each other while they are telling their stories. This could go in a lot of different directions. Leave out the giggling, it should be about turning each other on.

This type of thing could be done in solo videos also which would lead to masturbation.

This is already done in most of the videos, I would guess about 80% of them. But it usually does include some giggling...after all, girls just wanna have fun