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    #61
    It's not an avi, it's a wmv. And yes, they do, if they're incomplete by a multiple of 8 whatevers.

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      #62
      opps my mistake it is a wmv I will d/l it again, this time i will not use FF

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        #63
        Well, I actually downloaded all the vids and what a treat!!! Firstly all (wmv format) played including fast-forward, rewound etc with no problem.

        As expected, the series of vids do not disappoint though I guess the films are not for those looking for graphic views of female pink bits.

        I have to take issue with some of the comments already made, some of them quite amusing…
        Originally posted by mikespume
        I thought that the 'love making' was rather dull & un-imaginative being mostly missionary & if Zena came, I missed it whilst forwarding through the dull bits.
        Judging by the look on their faces I’m sure it wasn’t dull for Zena and Raph!!! You miss the point. The vid was all about showing a genuine couple making love and was not meant to be an illustrated guide to 101 sex positions. In any case what’s wrong with the mish position?? I know its trendy for guys who like to suggest their own sexual prowess and technique to be disparaging about the mish position, but for many its an intimate and satisfying position, not least because you can snog your partner whilst fucking. Watching Zena's face during the build-up to her orgasm was a joy to behold!!! Remember, Zena and Raph are not porn professionals, so they probably resorted to a position that they are both comfortable with bearing in mind they had a camera crew witnessing their lovemaking.
        Originally posted by formemb3140
        Also agree with Mrs Roops that it is so totally unnecessary to show a guy ejaculating on the womans face or elsewhere which is so common in other porn, his facial expressions show or noises when he has passed the point of no return.
        External cum-shots are a pet hate of mine. I also hate facials, ugh, disgusting and demeaning IMO, though some girls do like ‘em!!!
        Originally posted by formemb3140
        As I reflect on the high quality of this shoot I would like to make a further comment relative to the lovemaking style used by Ralph. Other than a few 3 somes I have particpated in I have never before witnessed the technique of another male when having sex with a female.
        So what are you saying? Are you an expert lover or not, if so please supply a testimonial or two.
        Originally posted by formemb3140
        I would like to comment on Raph's style when making love to the delicious Zena; perhaps he should concentrate more on her pleasure making sure that when he gives here oral; then she orgasms; no matter how long this takes. Instead we see Ralph seeingly give some half hearted oral to Zena before he receives her delightful pleasure. Zena seems to give more oral or hand attention to him than vice versa whereas I think on most occasions it should be the other way around.
        Whoa!! Again judging by the look of sheer bliss on Zena’s face, I not sure she’s complaining!! No doubt Raph will take on board your advice on advanced cockmanship but have you considered Raph’s approach is exactly how Zena like her sex?? Have you considered that she only gets off by penetration?? Maybe you are one of those gentlemen who knows what’s best for his partner without the need to communicate her likes and dislikes. I got the impression that these two have made love many times before and that Zena is being pleasured in exactly the way that’s suits her!! Whatever, I don’t think Raph needs advice from any guy on how to make love to his lady, though I do suggest the couple should consider purchasing an anserphone!!

        The stills suggested that the vids would be a delight to watch. Yes, there was some awkwardness at first but I found this endearing and I warmed to the couple straight away. Understandably, I’m sure that we did not witness their whole repertoire. For example, there were hints that Zena and Raph normally are into anal play but either through nerves or through a desire to keep some aspects of their sex lives private, we saw only a brief moment of this. I for one would love to see a redux of these two.

        This was quality stuff. Now if you excuse me, I'll just go and slip into my wetsuit and join Hubby who's sitting on the sofa....
        Last edited by Frans; 26 May 2008, 07:31 PM.

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          #64
          Great stills set. Beautifully captured videos that sounded wonderful in headphones (great job Susie!).
          Zena is the real deal! The girl is just adorable!

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            #65
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            Originally Posted by allan100
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            Hot shoot,BUT, it did look a little rehersed.

            Yes I suspect it was.
            ...
            However, I dont think she just came back from the beach, despite her wet hair.



            It's amazing what we get to read sometimes.

            Of course it was a setup!
            You didn't think Zena came from surfing and discovered only then (surprise, surprise) the team who was ready to do the shoot, did you?

            No one can be so naive.

            Man, man, man, people are never satisfied.
            OH NO, it was set up ! Ive been had.

            Sorry Luxman, maybe there was some Australian sense of humour there that was a bit too obscure
            But I was serious when I said I thought she had a good wetsuit.

            Allan

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              #66
              gruesse aus deutschland

              Hello this is Zena and Raph currently on holiday in Europe. This is the first time we got to view the finished product. Thanks for all the posts, glad you liked it. Yeah, we agreed the pictures came out well, but we still cringe when we watch the videos. Being the first time in front of the cameras, we both felt that we didn´t respond as intimatly and openly as we usually do. instead of openly incorporating the cameras into the moment we rather blocked them out which didn´t work very well. By the time it came to do the photos we got used to it and it was fun! If they ever let us to another shoot, we´d love to share with you what we really get into, reow. xx

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                #67
                Hey Zena & Raph --

                I thought everything was great, though I'm more than willing to have you do another video shoot if you want to work on your performance! You were gutsy to do this shoot and you can be sure you have a very satisfied viewer here. Enjoy your travels!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by zena
                  If they ever let us to another shoot, we´d love to share with you what we really get into, reow. xx
                  I've already said that a redux is in order. With your newfound confidence any subsequent BG shoot from you two would be mind-blowing!!!!

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                    #69
                    Hello everyone. I was grossly disappointed with the videos. For the most part, only the kissing and faces are shown and the actual insertion etc is grossly disproportionate. I wanted to see Jamie Luke kind of videos. Also this set has too much kind of Mission Impossible 3 camera work. Too much movement from one shot to other. There is not proper transition nor is it steady. I hope my comments are taken in right spirit and not as a constant whiner

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                      #70
                      Hi ZENA!! (and Raph, heh)

                      Wie gehts, babe? I looooooved the stills as well. You have a great stomach and the affection between the two of you always told so plainly on your face, it was touching, intimate, just to see that look. And I love your stomach. I should get into surfing, eh?

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                        #71
                        i edited the stills set and have to say it was an absolute PLEASURE! i could have edited for days... and might have, if i'd kept getting distracted...

                        well done everyone!

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                          #72
                          So many compliments, wow! I´m absolutely flattered. if you could see me sitting here, all blushed and big grin on my face. Thanks.

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                            #73
                            zena

                            I loved the video of you and your boyfriend. Someone said that your face was so full of expression and it was, which added so much to the intimacy. It was more art and feeling than just a video of sex, though it was certainly great sex. What a beauty you are!!

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                              #74
                              Real love

                              I admired you guys as well. I´ve never seen a video with such an intense expression of intimate relationship and real love. I think this is really a video according to the philosophy of this site. Go on like that!

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                                #75
                                Orgasm

                                Your orgasm was wonderful.

                                And I loved all the tenderness and joy that you expressed throughout.

                                Thank you so much!

                                R :-)

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                                  #76
                                  That was simply amazing. He obviously cared about your pleasure immensely. I have only one question: Did he climax? Where?

                                  Also, the wet suit set the situation for me, I liked it. She had just gotten home from surfing, he was horny, she was too, and this is what happened. It definitely is better than the standard porn plots where two total strangers have sex just because they happened to be in the same room. Give me more information on what's going on, who they are, and why they are here. It doesn't take much to make something visually sexy cerebrally sexy also.

                                  Roger

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                                    #77
                                    Lucky man that Raph...

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                                      #78
                                      Dull

                                      Sorry to disagree Mrs Roops, but I don't think I did miss the point! The lovemaking was dull & unadventurous. I don't consider myself as any great lothario but I was disappinted by their display. This site is for the delectation of the members remember.

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                                        #79
                                        Originally posted by mikespume
                                        Sorry to disagree Mrs Roops, but I don't think I did miss the point! The lovemaking was dull & unadventurous. I don't consider myself as any great lothario but I was disappinted by their display. This site is for the delectation of the members remember.
                                        Sure, but I find shoots like this interesting if couples are doing what comes naturally and not trying to put on a show for the camera (as did Dominique & Oliver). Contrived sex is tedious to the extreme IMO. I realise that means less pink and sexual acrobatics. I guess it boils down to personal taste in what we are looking for in porn.

                                        I must admit this was one of the very few hetero shoots that got me a little damp and poor old Roops didn't stand a chance with my less than subtle advances that day.

                                        I would be interested as to what you would do to make this shoot less dull and more adventurous either as the stud muffin or as the director.

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                                          #80
                                          Let's make it more intereating!!!

                                          Hi Mrs Roops,

                                          Sorry I've been slow to get back on this - just haven't had the opportunity to log on properly for a while & just spent loads of time on Rachel T's proposed boob job (please don't do it!)

                                          As I said, I'm no great lothario but was disappointed in the sex on the videos for a couple of reasons:

                                          1 For Zena & Raph to stick pretty much to missionary with a bit of doggy thrown in seems to be unadventurous at any age but especilally for a fit young couple. If they are happy to do that, fine but they are wasting a lot of the wonderful experience that sex in a loving relationship brings (or for that matter a knee trembler round the back of the bike sheds!). Zena has lovely little breasts & in my experience, they are always the most sensitive (small ones are more juicy as the advert says!) yet there was little shown of the teasing & pleaseure that you can give a lass on this score. I'm sure that Zena would come with a bit of boob play (I am doing this from memory now as I deleted the vids after 1 viewing, shortly after they went up). As for positions, I am certainly not after the contrived positions seen in most porn (reverse cowgirl??!!) or a run through of the Fama Sutra but would have liked a bit more variety - do you stick mostly to missionary? I certainly don't & love it with the wife on top or with her on her back but with legs folded back on herself so that her bum is raised & her feet are either side of my head (can still snog & gives much better penetration). They probably don't need to do much to make it a lot better so it was a shame to leave it as was.

                                          2 For AW I thinks it's a shame cos with the Abby approach, the b/g stuff could be so good & different from the mainstream stuff but I think that this is an opportunity missed. Perhaps some more encouragement from the team as to positions, better camera & (in particular) lighting as there were too many shadows. Certainly what is there could be shortened significantly without losing anything.

                                          3 For the viewers as I found it disappointing & I'm probably not alone in that. I understand the nature of what they were trying to do & was not expecting (or wanting) any graphic displays of 'pink' but would have liked to see more of what I would expect of any couple bonking each others brains out!

                                          Ah well, here's looking forward to the next one! (I wonder if Mim would like me to 'assist' her with a shoot !!)

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                                            #81
                                            The point of GB shoots is that couples try and replicate their normal lovemaking as much as possible, which is pretty difficult with a camera crew present during the proceedings. To ask any couple to do "more adventurous positions" would make the shoot contrived and false. Actually the mish position is not boring or unadventurous. Its a lovely and satisfying position whether you are doing vaginal or anal fucking, though sometimes it is difficult to slip a hand in to play with one's clit. As for the woman to fold back her legs I, would say that your wife must be an extremely fit girl. Speaking for myself, I am fit and bendy but I can only do that position for a limited period of time!!!!

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                                              #82
                                              Originally posted by Luxman
                                              It's amazing what we get to read sometimes.

                                              Of course it was a setup!
                                              You didn't think Zena came from surfing and discovered only then (surprise, surprise) the team who was ready to do the shoot, did you?

                                              No one can be so naive.

                                              Man, man, man, people are never satisfied.

                                              Lxm
                                              Thanks Luxman.

                                              Hey Allan I thought most people would get it, but obviously some need explaining.
                                              These two lovely people are surfers, so it happens quite often that they have a shag either before or after or at for that matter they go to the beach. Since we are after a bit o reality here at AW I wanted to start the shoot off in a situation that would happen in their normal sex lives so YOU the viewer could feel like you were seeing into their world a bit. Also so they would feel more comfortable as having a camera in your face while your fucking is not the easiest when it's your first time.

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                                                #83
                                                Look, I really liked Dominique and Olivier, and I liked this couple too. I don't expect that sessions are going to be alike or even in the same style from couple to couple. I did think six segments were a bit long, but the look on Zena's face when Ralph resolved was priceless. A female that lovely who looked like at me like that would produce results quite exhaustive. To be zoological, if Zena had a rival female, she'd have to go around frustrated for a couple days, because the contested male had nothing left to give. Zena would have gotten all the alpha semen.

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                                                  #84
                                                  Originally posted by skyangel
                                                  Look, I really liked Dominique and Olivier, and I liked this couple too. I don't expect that sessions are going to be alike or even in the same style from couple to couple. I did think six segments were a bit long, but the look on Zena's face when Ralph resolved was priceless. A female that lovely who looked like at me like that would produce results quite exhaustive. To be zoological, if Zena had a rival female, she'd have to go around frustrated for a couple days, because the contested male had nothing left to give. Zena would have gotten all the alpha semen.
                                                  i don,t think he didn,t do it because he had nothing left to give,i think he DIDN,T want to do it,she did hint but he wasn,t having any,i think he might have been a bit embarised,he was after all in a room full of dressed females.
                                                  Last edited by chiefbrody; 23 September 2006, 01:42 PM.

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                                                    #85
                                                    Thank you!

                                                    The videos were beautiful. I found myself so incredibly turned on and wet, but also just moved by the tenderness and human-ness of the interactions between Zena and Raph. Thank you so much for sharing this!

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                                                      #86
                                                      Originally posted by isra2008 View Post
                                                      The videos were beautiful. I found myself so incredibly turned on and wet, but also just moved by the tenderness and human-ness of the interactions between Zena and Raph. Thank you so much for sharing this!
                                                      Hi, Isra, welcome to the boards!

                                                      It sounds to me like you might be a <gasp> woman -- "and wet" was a dead giveaway. Unless of course you're a man given to sloppy ejaculation.

                                                      At any rate, we've got a bunch of female participants ("female members" doesn't sound right ), and many of them hang out (members hang out! get it? ) at the Female Clubhouse thread.

                                                      So don't be a stranger, hope to see you around.

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                                                        #87
                                                        Something so sweet about a woman doing her natural duty(being submissive to her man) and smiling like that- great video!

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                                                          #88
                                                          Originally posted by rotolactor2 View Post
                                                          Something so sweet about a woman doing her natural duty(being submissive to her man) and smiling like that- great video!
                                                          Heh, I'm not so sure about the natural submissive part.. expecting some disagreement on that. But yeah this shoot is quite nice! I see you found the other b/g shoots as well, having a good time on the site I guess? Welcome to the forums!

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                                                            #89
                                                            Great Shoot

                                                            I think this shoot is up with the best. I enjoyed it hugely. Congrats to everyone.

                                                            T'-Ray

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                                                              #90
                                                              is that a guy or have i offended someone.. im sorry if i have! if it is a guy. it thought it wasnt allowed.. but still at least we get to see some action and some hot bodies.. the more seduction the better i say.. just perfect xx

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