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    behind the thread, the math -

    I've just discovered this thread and have read it with interest (in other threads, I've written a bit about cultural differences between Australia and the US). I think the topic arises because of the sheer number of models on AW; as the years roll by, it adds up - and more are being added every week.

    Here's my guess (models, correct me if I'm wrong): I think most parents of most AW models would accept their presence here with equanimity. They might not be real crazy about it - but love of their children would outweigh the impulse toward judgement and condemnation (this is in Australia, not the US). Having said that, as the number of AW models keeps going up, the law of averages dictates that some of them will not have such hip, with-it parents. In a sense, as it grows, AW is becoming more democratic and reflective of all Australian society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deevee51 View Post
    Giselle should discipline you for your transgression! Segue to a wonderful AW video in my mind.
    No doubt in my mind that Immie would turn that scenario around so fast.... Nobody messes with the Immster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likesitnatural View Post
    I've just discovered this thread and have read it with interest (in other threads, I've written a bit about cultural differences between Australia and the US). I think the topic arises because of the sheer number of models on AW; as the years roll by, it adds up - and more are being added every week.

    Here's my guess (models, correct me if I'm wrong): I think most parents of most AW models would accept their presence here with equanimity. They might not be real crazy about it - but love of their children would outweigh the impulse toward judgement and condemnation (this is in Australia, not the US). Having said that, as the number of AW models keeps going up, the law of averages dictates that some of them will not have such hip, with-it parents. In a sense, as it grows, AW is becoming more democratic and reflective of all Australian society.
    If there is anyplace a model should be proud to be seen on, it's Abbywinters because of the overall tone of AW is much more on a professional level, and add to that the degree of ettiquete, respect and good mannerisms that are supported and reflected in our AW messageboards which are moderated. Models get to choose the level of explicitness and members as well as other models get to address each other here as real people here in the forums, much like we all would in most any social function situation. Folks won't find that level of quality and good policy virtualy anyplace else on the Web so no doubt parents who are 'hip' and 'with-it' should be much more comfortable with their grown-up daughters choosing to participate in the AW legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgangbuster29 View Post
    If there is anyplace a model should be proud to be seen on, it's Abbywinters because of the overall tone of AW is much more on a professional level, and add to that the degree of ettiquete, respect and good mannerisms that are supported and reflected in our AW messageboards which are moderated. Models get to choose the level of explicitness and members as well as other models get to address each other here as real people here in the forums, much like we all would in most any social function situation. Folks won't find that level of quality and good policy virtualy anyplace else on the Web so no doubt parents who are 'hip' and 'with-it' should be much more comfortable with their grown-up daughters choosing to participate in the AW legacy.
    ....so AW is the best of the worst?

    I know my parents would not be happy. Where *not happy* would put it rather mildly. I tested the waters once and ouch! man, did that hurt. Perhaps it is the case for them that erotica on the internet, no matter how tasteful(tasty) and respectful and ego boosting for the model, is still not empowering or advancing or equalising for women. And for the life of me I don't know how you could call the several dildo insertion shoots I've done tasteful! Yummy yes, fun to do, of course, but not tasteful or classy...Let's be honest guys.

    I accept that. Am I pushing back(or rather halting the move forward of) womens' rights by participating in the objectification of women on the internet? Perhaps. Do I love my job, look forward to going to work every morning? Do I enjoy thinking of new ways to take photos of my nipples? Absofreaknlutely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by likesitnatural View Post
    Here's my guess (models, correct me if I'm wrong): I think most parents of most AW models would accept their presence here with equanimity. They might not be real crazy about it - but love of their children would outweigh the impulse toward judgement and condemnation (this is in Australia, not the US)
    Quote Originally Posted by sue-ann View Post
    And for the life of me I don't know how you could call the several dildo insertion shoots I've done tasteful! Yummy yes, fun to do, of course, but not tasteful or classy...Let's be honest guys....
    Yes, let's be honest.... fingering your butt on the internet is not going to be truly accepted or supported by your parents regardless of where or your family were raised

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    How true Giselle. If my parents even knew I subscribed to this site they wouldn't be happy. I guess I am a bit of a rebel. KISSES

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    Am I pushing back(or rather halting the move forward of) womens' rights by participating in the objectification of women on the internet? Perhaps.
    I find it strange that you would say that. On this website of all places. Or maybe I'm naive.

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    Oh- come on gals, why be so hard on yourselves by making things sound so repulsive merely by amping up on the aspects of what makes up only about 10% of the content of this site? I find that the majority of the models, including you fine ladies, present yourselves in more tasteful ways on the AW site than what could be found on other, much smuttier adult entertainment websites. That's the AW difference I'm proud to point out to folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgangbuster29 View Post
    Oh- come on gals, why be so hard on yourselves by making things sound so repulsive merely by amping up on the aspects of what makes up only about 10% of the content of this site...
    I'm not being hard on myself at all! I'm very proud of my shoots for AW as well as all the content I've done for other projects and sites. However, I'm honest and realistic.... most parents would not be 100% supportive of their daughter modeling for AW. Tolerant, maybe even somewhat accepting, but not supportive.

    Fortunately, AW models are all adults so we weigh up the pros & cons, consider the consequences and do what we think is right. And by the looks of it we all thought it was ok to get our gear off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giselle View Post
    I'm not being hard on myself at all! I'm very proud of my shoots for AW as well as all the content I've done for other projects and sites. However, I'm honest and realistic.... most parents would not be 100% supportive of their daughter modeling for AW. Tolerant, maybe even somewhat accepting, but not supportive.

    Fortunately, AW models are all adults so we weigh up the pros & cons, consider the consequences and do what we think is right. And by the looks of it we all thought it was ok to get our gear off
    Okay, good. So y'all can relax a bit, bearing in mind that the 'fingering your butt on the Internet' aspect isn't something that's viewable by the whole world, just us members who make a choice to subscribe. AW is not for everyone but it is definitely among the much more tasteful and conservative. Consider yourself among the best to be found anywhere Online.

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    307,000,000 vs 21,000,000

    ... Those are the approximate population numbers for the U.S. and Australia. (Happened to be researching that, and much more, for another thread I'm involved with here!

    Nearly 15:1 !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giselle View Post
    I'm not being hard on myself at all! I'm very proud of my shoots for AW as well as all the content I've done for other projects and sites. However, I'm honest and realistic.... most parents would not be 100% supportive of their daughter modeling for AW. Tolerant, maybe even somewhat accepting, but not supportive.

    Fortunately, AW models are all adults so we weigh up the pros & cons, consider the consequences and do what we think is right. And by the looks of it we all thought it was ok to get our gear off
    I'm thinking all this wonderful thread discussion points to a certain "Black Hole", if you will, only with astronomical reference!

    There are, actually, nearly "alternate realities" being touched on in this chat and, fear not, that's nothing new! There are, literally, none of us who can claim, honestly, to be in 100% lock-sync understanding and enjoyment with parents, of what we do and enjoy here. Moreover, that's true even as there is this huge range of like-minded, like-thinking subscribers spanning the full age range of sexually-active homo sapiens. Within reason, that doesn't make us "right or wrong", just enjoying our own, commonly-shared ideas of what is healthy and wholesome fun with none of the traditional worries of sex with strangers!

    What this all really points to is the odd day when stern dad sees daughter's images online while doing his own thing with or apart from wife/mom, etc. etc!!

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    alternate realities ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaRob View Post
    There are, actually, nearly "alternate realities" being touched on in this chat...
    yeow, Rob - that's too much for me to absorb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by likesitnatural View Post
    I've just discovered this thread and have read it with interest (in other threads, I've written a bit about cultural differences between Australia and the US).
    I've certainly discerned some differences in the sexual values between the two cultures. I'm not just speaking of the culture of Abby Winters either - I have a lot of non-model Australian friends who I chat with online regularly.

    I've wondered if some of the differences may relate to higher incidences of infection by Toxoplasma gondii which can change human behavior. In particular, it's thought to turn women into sex kittens.

    The parasite's behavior is quite fascinating in nature. Normally it needs both rats (or mice) and cats in order to procreate. When it gets into a mouse or rat, it needs to get eaten by a cat in order to finish reproduction. So the parasite gets into the mouse's brain and somehow draws it to places that cats frequent. Healthy rats and mice avoid areas with cat odors, but infected mice are actually drawn to them. I suspect that the parasite triggers the release of endorphin and other opioids in the brain when the normal adrenaline response to the cat odor is triggered.

    When it gets into us, it still gets into our brains and still changes our behavior, but in very different ways obviously. The parasite doesn't ever want to infect us when it happens by accident, because that is the end of its life and it cannot reproduce. Unfortunately when that mistake happens to a pregnant woman the results are truly catastrophic for the fetus which gets brain damage and is highly susceptible to schizophrenia. Most people who get the infection after birth never noticeably suffer from it.

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    hmmm-

    Is that a sex kitten I hear - or maybe a gentle jest?

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    I used to model about 8 years ago and my parents knew about it then. I started off doing art nudes then because Iím bi when the chance to do girl/girl shoots came up I jumped at the chance.
    I now do webcam work and live with my parents since my divorce in October and work from home so they know what's going on.
    I also work at my local college doing art nude modelling so they know about that too.
    It pays the bills and it makes me happy and that's all that they care about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pippa View Post
    I now do webcam work and live with my parents since my divorce in October and work from home so they know what's going on.
    Do you work when they are home? It may be a bit awkward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlabka View Post
    Do you work when they are home? It may be a bit awkward.


    yes I do.
    I work in my bedroom with the door locked my mum is down stairs and can’t hear anything.
    I’m saving to move out in January when I have a years worth of self-employed accounts and they know I’m happier in my own place.
    Its a shame though because of the fact I do webcam work I can’t move in with my boyfriend and his mum. My boyfriends mum has a heart condition so he wont move in with me.
    It makes me happy, I’m safe in the comfort of my own home and I’m earning money. That's all they really care about.

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    It's great that your parents are open minded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oroboros View Post
    I've certainly discerned some differences in the sexual values between the two cultures. I'm not just speaking of the culture of Abby Winters either - I have a lot of non-model Australian friends who I chat with online regularly.

    I've wondered if some of the differences may relate to higher incidences of infection by Toxoplasma gondii which can change human behavior. In particular, it's thought to turn women into sex kittens.

    The parasite's behavior is quite fascinating in nature. Normally it needs both rats (or mice) and cats in order to procreate. When it gets into a mouse or rat, it needs to get eaten by a cat in order to finish reproduction. So the parasite gets into the mouse's brain and somehow draws it to places that cats frequent. Healthy rats and mice avoid areas with cat odors, but infected mice are actually drawn to them. I suspect that the parasite triggers the release of endorphin and other opioids in the brain when the normal adrenaline response to the cat odor is triggered.

    When it gets into us, it still gets into our brains and still changes our behavior, but in very different ways obviously. The parasite doesn't ever want to infect us when it happens by accident, because that is the end of its life and it cannot reproduce. Unfortunately when that mistake happens to a pregnant woman the results are truly catastrophic for the fetus which gets brain damage and is highly susceptible to schizophrenia. Most people who get the infection after birth never noticeably suffer from it.
    Science nerd alert!

    Popped into this thread thanks to Pippa and was backtracking when I saw this. I wrote a literature review on the effects of parasites on human psychology, a lot of it on Toxoplasma gondii. The results have been rather overstated and even misstated. I would say there is currently not enough evidence to support any of the claims. Just FYI!

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    So - full disclosure - I am a 44 year old mother of a 21 year old woman. When I think of using porn to get off, I do not think of it in the context of my daughter being the same age (or older) of some of the women on this site. When i do think about it in such a context, I feel like a "dirty old woman". When I do look at these videos, I think more about my memories of when I was that age and I wish AW was around back then and that I had the "balls" to go for it. Some of these women are really hot and I wish I were their contemporary.

    All of that being said and the the fact that I would likely choose doing lesbian porn for a site like AW, I would not choose it for my daughter. I would be mortified if I came across any porn that she did. I would not want to know. Now this is an interesting position for me since I have always had very open communication with my daughter regarding sex and sexuality. When she was fourteen and was contemplating having sex with her boyfriend, I sat them both down and told them: It is your body and it is precious and it is for you to say who you share it with. If you choose to share it with each other, then protect yourselves. If you choose to have sex, it does not mean that you are entitled to have sex whenever you want without the other person's consent. Also if you have sex and then one day break up, it does not mean you have to have sex with every other boy/girl friend you have.

    That is type of communication we have had. When she got an STD, she came to me. I know how many partners she has had and I know how she feels about herself as a sexual being.

    However while I would not berate her or love her any less or differently, if she choose to do any type of sex work, I would hope she would protect herself from diseases and violence. I would just rather not know about it. I agree with whoever said that they do not discuss the details of their parents sex life and don't need to discuss their own sex life with their parents.

    I have frank discussions with my daughter but I do think there is a line. I would never ask her about the details of sex with her boyfriend and I would never tell her the details of my own sex life.

    Chris Rock says it best http://youtu.be/tojBadSr2zI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemma View Post
    I'm very open with my modelling work. I've told everyone that I do it but not where to find it. I just can't help myself. I've got a big mouth and I'm painfully open and honest. I think my Mum is kinda used to me doing crazy things that she doesn't understand. I have very little contact with my family as they are all interstate but every now and again she does ask me "how is that nude thing that you do going?"
    I generally don't have the parents problem as most people mentioned. As I went thru a series of foster parents growing up and my biological parents I didn't really have much contact with. However, any family connection I did have, the r.ship would be similar to what you said... It would be absolutely no problem at all, and maybe even celebrated because the same way I see nude modeling is the same way they wud, and in fact one of my moms was bisexual and did modeling herself, including nudes and adult

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexis View Post
    I could never tell my father (we get along incredibly well, and I know he'd get over it, but I'd rather save him the heartache), but as for my mother...she'd only be a little upset - but she'd spend years interrogating me about "how do you feel about it", "what influenced you to do it" etc. Remember, kiddies...a mum with a degree in Psychology isn't always a good thing! LOL.

    As far as my kids are concerned, I believe I'll be somewhat of a hippy mother - while I'd never actively encourage the modelling, I want my kids to be completely at ease with discussing such things with me so that if they wanted to do it I could at least help them to find the safest environment possible and avoid any scams/danger. Same applies to their sexual orientation - both my fiance and I believe in educating our children as to what's out there, and letting them walk their own path after that (knowing that we're there to fall back on if things get rough).

    Anyone would think I'm getting clucky or something
    Not sure what Clucky means... lol

    But you sound like you'd be a GREAT MOM!!!

    And YOUR mom soundsss HILARIOUSSSS lmfao.... I think it would be a good thing to have a psychologist mom!

    Keep in mind, I Love psychology and Hippies ;P

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    telling your parents

    I have 1460 GB of nude girls data from about 26 sites. I have now Met Art and Abbywiters only. I was a member in Abbywinters in 2005.


    I cannot understand the fear that all models share about telling their parents. A girl that have the courage to strip naked in front of the camera should not be afraid to tell her parents that she is a nude model. I ask our girls, was it easy for them when they entered the studio for the first time to strip naked in front of the camera? What was their feeling in removing their panty and exposing their vagina? All of our girls are courageous girls. Not any girl can pose nude.


    I do not have a daughter. But if I had one I would have allowed her to pose nude for art purposes only:



    1. No sex. Meaning no masturbation, no intercourse with bf or gf
    2. No explicit shoots. Her vagina is a part of her nude and can be photographed as such.

    In short she can pose nude as if she were in her art class at college. No dad can object to that.

    Rachel, you started the thread. what will be the reaction of your parents if you told them you want to pose nude for an art class??
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    No, I think I can't never told them, because I don't know, thwy are not so open mind I think. It would be so much easier and fun If we were really free to do and tell anything the things we do I work as a webcam model sometimes too and I have to lie them about a job in an office. I don't know, maybe someday the know it and nothing happens but for today, I hide them a lot of my life

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    Old thread, but interesting topic. I wouldn't like my daughter to tell me she was here anymore than if she would tell me any other sexual stuff. She has as much right to do what she likes as I do. Someone told me something my other daughter did at a party, and I fkn hated to hear it, simply cause it didn't sound like she wanted to do it. If they wanted to be here, good for them, but don't tell me about it. Fair enough?

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    I have told my parents and sister and a few more people. I'm always very open about everything and hate to lie about anything. I don't want to make up an excuse about why I can not meet up one day because of a shoot. I just want to tell people about what a good time I have had.

    My parents took it well. They were a bit concerned about me getting into the "world of porn" because they did not know what AW is really like and that it does not mean that I have to do things I don't want to or will end up a drug addict or something. They realize I have made my decision and trust in me not to do anything stupid. They see that it makes me happy, that is the most important thing.

    I have always been very open about sexuality with my parents and I can discuss anything I want with them. This has made me more informed and more comfortable with sexuality and has made me think about what I want and do not want. I am not ashamed of my body and sexuality as I realize we are all just human and different, which is awesome. It has made me a lot happier I think. XXX Noa

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