I love sex

[blown88]

There's fear behind these attacks

I am a male; thus I can’t speak on behalf of females- I offer this as just my perception:

I don’t post much; but I am passionately in favor of sites like AW; I love it…I find it very beautiful.. so I want to chime in on this..

Do send the emails; but take these attacks as a compliment. It reflects on the success that AW and similar sites have achieved. This is also due to fear due to a shift of power that’s happening right now that may threaten old paternalistic values.

It’s the fear that the young female is now claiming power; she’s becoming wickedly confident, she’s intelligent, aggressive and fearless and thinks of herself enough not to yield to or put up with these outdated values. The female is mighty in that she is now asserting herself and is beginning to roar so to speak and is making her mark.

This does refer to AW’s success. Despite their disapproval, the growth and Sydney expansion of AW is a humiliating loss for these attackers who may soon realize that not only are they doing porn (which they hate); but that the females in this female led site are doing porn their way; doing very well at it; empowering models self esteem one at a time; and are becoming too strong to be controlled.

..and continued success will only dishearten them, and take their will to fight out of them bit by bit.

Here is an excerpt from a poem the from the Vagina Monologues.
Three girls were suspended in the US for simply saying the word "vagina" in unison the last line during an open mic session at their school. This is just an example of how petty they can get. Though thats the reason that was given. Or was it really the context of the line that bragged: "I declare these streets, any streets my vagina's country" ? Who knows. But this is also an example of how strong willed, and fearless girls have become in refusing to omit this line from their speech or using a substitution for the word 'vagina'.


My short skirt, believe it or not has nothing to do with you. My short skirt is about discovering the power of my lower calves about cool autumn air traveling up my inner thighs about allowing everything I see or pass or feel to live inside. My short skirt is not proof that I am stupid or undecided or a malleable little girl. My short skirt is my defiance I will not let you make me afraid My short skirt is not showing off this is who I am before you made me cover it or tone it down. Get used to it. My short skirt is happiness I can feel myself on the ground. I am here. I am hot. My short skirt is a liberation flag in the women's army I declare these streets, any streets my vagina's country.

[Rickdownunder]

It’s the fear that the young female is now claiming power; she’s becoming wickedly confident, she’s intelligent, aggressive and fearless and thinks of herself enough not to yield to or put up with these outdated values. The female is mighty in that she is now asserting herself and is beginning to roar so to speak and is making her mark.

This does refer to AW’s success. Despite their disapproval, the growth and Sydney expansion of AW is a humiliating loss for these attackers who may soon realize that not only are they doing porn (which they hate); but that the females in this female led site are doing porn their way; doing very well at it; empowering models self esteem one at a time; and are becoming too strong to be controlled.

..and continued success will only dishearten them, and take their will to fight out of them bit by bit.

Do you recon' ?
Good to see you love AW so much but it's a bit far fetched to think that it should be so directly linked to AW success.
I would have expected that it was all x-rated material in Australia, regardless of source that was being targeted by these "attackers". could be interesting though, if we were to draw attention specifically towards AW as a feminist political campaign for female pornography specifically in Australia. lol. I'd suggest to steer clear of that.

Having said that, I am new to the site and pretty much just spend time admiring the models without focussing on any underlying agendas. Is there any?

You've got me thinking though. I couldn't find who's responsible for the "I Love Sex" site and any affiliates. Any ideas?

It does seem pretty clear from the information provided on the site that it's more about shops and not the internet. I re-emphasis, it's the internet that will be the first to be considered by any "attackers". (in my opinion)

Rickdownunder

[blown88]

Do you recon' ?
Good to see you love AW so much but it's a bit far fetched to think that it should be so directly linked to AW success.
I would have expected that it was all x-rated material in Australia, regardless of source that was being targeted by these "attackers". could be interesting though, if we were to draw attention specifically towards AW as a feminist political campaign for female pornography specifically in Australia. lol. I'd suggest to steer clear of that.

Having said that, I am new to the site and pretty much just spend time admiring the models without focussing on any underlying agendas. Is there any?

You've got me thinking though. I couldn't find who's responsible for the "I Love Sex" site and any affiliates. Any ideas?

It does seem pretty clear from the information provided on the site that it's more about shops and not the internet. I re-emphasis, it's the internet that will be the first to be considered by any "attackers". (in my opinion)

Rickdownunder

I'll have to get back with on you this. I am going out of town so it will be a couple of days. I have like ten minutes right now but I'm not very good at posting something that quick. So check back in a few days.

[blown88]

the flag

Do you recon' ?
Good to see you love AW so much but it's a bit far fetched to think that it should be so directly linked to AW success.
I would have expected that it was all x-rated material in Australia, regardless of source that was being targeted by these "attackers". could be interesting though, if we were to draw attention specifically towards AW as a feminist political campaign for female pornography specifically in Australia. lol. I'd suggest to steer clear of that.

Having said that, I am new to the site and pretty much just spend time admiring the models without focussing on any underlying agendas. Is there any?

You've got me thinking though. I couldn't find who's responsible for the "I Love Sex" site and any affiliates. Any ideas?

It does seem pretty clear from the information provided on the site that it's more about shops and not the internet. I re-emphasis, it's the internet that will be the first to be considered by any "attackers". (in my opinion)

Rickdownunder

My rebill is about to bounce on me so I better post now..

But try the full website name in a search engine box with “domain name ownership”. Someone owns that domain name and that data is usually available to the public to let those interested in making an offer to buy the domain name. This may also bring up articles with information as well.

I really don’t know what’s going on in Australia as far as censorship- I live in the USA; and am not familiar with all thats happening down there.

Now what is the profile the attackers?

If these are mostly people in their 40’s and 50’s; then that may say a lot. They simply grew up in a time when women were expected to fulfill weaker roles; maybe stay at home while the man makes the living. Internet porn wasn’t around when they grew up; nor really were sex shops to the extent as they are now at least...

So of course all of this appears as wicked heresy and something that warrants an attack.

Aw's success is not the only reason, of course..for this.

AW is just one of the more aggressive wings of the greater battle to slay this metaphoric beast of misconception armed with cheeky shots, hot models, lesbian sex, always depicting the female form in a flattering light. As far as AW the websites showing her might in her advance; and planting her lesbian flag in new territory is humiliating to them- -whether this be the AW websites agenda- I don’t know; but showing them up has got to be fun for them.

[Abby]

You've got me thinking though. I couldn't find who's responsible for the "I Love Sex" site and any affiliates. Any ideas?

It's produced by the Adult Industry Association, Eros (of which we are a member).

[blown88]

metaphor

one last comment for me on this...from reading the news … I hope that dvd sales in Australia will remain legal.

The pussy is an important metaphor for this that goes beyond porn because the pussy embodies what is feminine: she is soft as petals, delicate and beautiful to the sight---yet her beauty may throw off some in that she is also tough as steel. She’s not fragile; she’s a sword; a lioness inside the skirt, jeans, shorts, panties; her intricate folds displayed proudly on this site like she’s mighty; the aggressor; like she’s going to take second to no one. Each pic does convey a message both nude and clothed.

These petals are galvanized by the sum of her owners intellect, determination and will. Making her owner proud to be able to fulfill her goals on this planet with her feminine curves and with such grace in between her legs.

Yes, Venus is rising in this patriarchal society causing some battles; yet the culture will be feminized and bring facets with it that flatters all thats feminine such as lesbianism into a more prominent profile; just as patriarchy brought facets with it that degraded what’s feminine.

…as there are so many young strong determined females that know what they want; and are going to kick butt to get it; and give pussy, and all else that’s feminine a good name.

[NickMZ]

I am sorry you have a group that is trying to impose their will on others. Really an issue of freedom as much as anything else.

And this particular suppression isn't going to work. Like it or not, Porn is a huge industry. Worldwide, almost US$100 billion in sales (2 billion is AUS). Trying to ban it just forces it underground, where it will just line the pockets of organized crime (like, the prohibition in the US - stupid idea that caused far more harm than good). And although children should and must be protected from exposure to porn (especially overexposure), saying that banning porn is "for the children" is disingenuous at best and a flat out lie at worst.

Actually the ultra religious attempt to bury the concept of sex from the public view is something else I feel causes more harm than good. I am not saying that we should be making love on the street corners, but I feel that an open and honest acknowledgement of the "facts of life", along with what is natural and what isn't, would reduce the stress in pressure of sex in the first place (although this may be more applicable in the US, where we are somewhat backward in that regard).

Would have made my life a lot less horrific.

Anyway, good luck!

[jaycee]

Actually the ultra religious attempt to bury the concept of sex from the public view is something else I feel causes more harm than good. I am not saying that we should be making love on the street corners, but I feel that an open and honest acknowledgement of the "facts of life", along with what is natural and what isn't, would reduce the stress in pressure of sex in the first place (although this may be more applicable in the US, where we are somewhat backward in that regard).

Let me first say welcome to the boards Nickmz I agree with what you are saying.

My mother-in-law ask my middle son when he was very young if he knew where he came from and he replied "Yeah grandma I came from mommies vagina" and she was floored that he even knew what a vagina was. You see when my three boys first asked about sex and where they come from, my wife told them using the correct terms and not slang. We also allowed them to watch animals and humans give birth. So my kids saw all that a woman has at a very early age. My mother-in-law thought we were crazy and that he kids were to young to learn such things. The reason we did this was because on my sister. When my sister came to visit for a couple of weeks (about 13 yrs old) she had her first period and thought she was bleeding to death and my wife had to explain the monthlies. My mom was old fashioned and didn't know how to tell her.

I did not want my kids to be ignorant about sex. So we told them what they wanted to know properly instead of hearing from other kids.

Well that's my 2 cents worth.

Cheers JC

[Frans]

I suppose today's election is interesting with regard to this thread? But the Aussie election system is a tiiiiny bit complicated (with swapping preferences or such, sounds like trading seats). So... anybody able to tell me what a good/bad result would be for AW as a company? Does Federal/state have much to say over National?

I reckon keeping that Familly First party out of both Senate and House-of-Reps would be good for business as usual

[gabrielle]

the problem with trying to ban something that human beings find natural and attractive (like sex, and even seeking altered consciousness through drugs) is that it just creates a black market, and from there comes many more problems than you otherwise would have had if it were legal, standardised and safe. not to mention that as soon as you're 'not allowed' to have something, you just want it more.

[postit66]

We are pulling for ya here in the States.

While your at it you should work on the Bill of Rights issue as well. I'm going to do a little research on this 4 ya.