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    #91
    Originally posted by chiefbrody10 View Post
    I totally detest males on the site,but I accept its what some people want,I get it,but do they have to be on the preview pictures and the special messages ? the people who want girl/boy want it for the kink,
    unlike the girls on the site,no one wants to get to know them,they are faceless
    ,in fact on the latest preview picture,the male is nameless,faceless and gets put down like a tool (nice one maisie) this is not the escapism I want.

    having males on the videos is one thing,but having to see them everytime you come into the site is not for me AND IT IS NOT ABBY WINTERS.
    While I may not agree with your sentiments, I understand that you're not alone in them. Personally, I would suggest you be more sensitive, as you can see our models do read the forums regularly and unfiltered criticisms can be quite hurtful. We're working on a "no penis" filter to prevent anyone from having to see penises (or the men attached to them) if they don't want to.

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      #92
      Wasn't a lame answer at all... and from what I have learned about you over the last year and a bit (???) since your AW debut totally understandable. You seem like a lady that not only enjoys life but enjoys it even more when experience (or spreading) that joy amongst those around you.

      I appreciate the reality of the problems with g/b shoots and having enough content to post regularly for it's own site, especially by doing it "properly" the AW way, with only real couples. Plus understand why we are getting more and more g/b shoots with its demand by some current members and it's potential to bring in new members to the site. I was just venting a little and dreaming of the perfect Pinky's AW world.

      But thanks to Fenna and her thread I'm not feeling the need to vent anymore. Talking of Fenna.... I don't think Chief was intending to be disrespectful or insulting to any model, male or female, although his wording did come across more than a little strong. I read it more as a dig at AW for its introduction of more G/B shoots and then showing the man as just an object or "tool" by not giving him a name or showing his face in the picture. I hope you forget these posts very shortly and get back to enjoying the rest of the forums. I'm sure you will find a more personal and positive response in yours and Mr. Utopia's shoot thread when its finally released. (13 days and 9 hours now.) Hugs to you Fenna

      Pinky

      .... Just saw Kylie's post... I think that the schedule has changed so it's not actually taking the place of any "scheduled" shoots... But it must be replacing something that use to have that "time slot" Plus with my pedantic hat on for just a second... (and pretending that I don't know what you were meaning) AW had 6 G/B shoots from 2000 to May 2011, we are now having one a month that seems to be a large increase to me Anyway... or more importantly there is still enough shoots that keep me happy and thinking AW is the best adult site about. But always want more
      Last edited by mrpinkeyes; 20 July 2012, 03:57 PM.

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        #93
        I should have said i was a member from oct 2005 when the site was a great australian site,it was my website,there was no males allowed ,it was a dream,now i can t come here without seeing one,its turned into an ordinary porn site,it also appears its what the female staff want more than anyone else (fom the last few comments) this site was my escapism,and you ve now deliberately made the girl/girl shoots look bland with lack of interest compared to the b/g shoots.
        turning the site into a seedy male porn site was not the way to go for abby winters and you should havr no right to use that name,can t believe garion as let it happen
        im also curious to know if you ll be having a no vagina/clitoris filter ?


        ps dont kick me off the site until i ve downloaded my fav videos i came back to find.
        Last edited by chiefbrody10; 20 July 2012, 04:11 PM. Reason: update

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          #94
          Originally posted by chiefbrody10 View Post
          im also curious to know if you ll be having a no vagina/clitoris filter?
          Now I think you're just teasing me.

          Originally posted by chiefbrody10 View Post
          ps dont kick me off the site until i ve downloaded my fav videos i came back to find.
          We wouldn't "kick you off" the site, you've paid for your subscription and you will have access until it expires.

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            #95
            Didn't you understand anything anyone has said after you posted your insults? Find yourself another escapism then, there are plenty. Or start your own. If your opinion is that "your" site has been ruined, don't ruin it for all the other wonderful people who are working and shooting for AW now.
            I understand that it was not a personal attack towards me or my partner, and I want to thank Masie and Pinky for their kind words
            But you, chiefbrody10, must also understand that your negativity leads to nothing.

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              #96
              if i could come into this site and not see or hear about any male shoots at all i could live with that,but if i have to push a button,couldn t it say no males ? because the p word is offensive to me and i wouldn t want to see it when i joined.

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                #97
                thank you maisie,your a sweet girl (and i ve loved your shoots) thank you for saying this,i do agree that people want to see b/g shoots but i was unhappen seeing them start to appear more on the front page,but thats me,im a fan of the old abby winters,and i do get angry,im surprised i ve been attacked and then been told there are others who disagree with it,but with the no male filter (and please call it that) i will be a member,i m starting to get into the new g/g solo girl shoots and hope the site will get back to what it was but i am insistant in no males for me in the shoots,but your comment has made me feel more reasonable

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                  #98
                  see, i left the site and came back,and the first thing i see on the right of the screen is a speical message from undressed paul and dressed keriln,and really don t want to see that.

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                    #99
                    Thank you for understanding where I was trying to come from Chief. On a new note I am super happy that you have been enjoying some of the new g/g shoots as we have been putting a lot of effort into listening to member feedback in all area's but especially this one and its great to know this effort has been paying off. If you have any specific hints as to what makes a magical g/g encounter and indeed what things I as a new shooter can learn from some of your favorite Australia day shoots I would love to hear them. We have a few threads open about g/g shoot ideas and site feedback and the more hints I can get the better. I have tried to watch as many shoots as I can do but love it when members share their favorite shoots as often I haven't seen them yet and there is normally lots I can try and use to make the next shoot I film better. xxxxxxxxx

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                      Originally posted by chiefbrody10 View Post
                      there was no males allowed
                      Perhaps not on the shoot teams, but the site was owned by a man, forum moderators were men as I'm sure were other members of the company. I've never understood why members seem to long for a return of the 'golden years' when no men were around: evil doesn't have to be seen to be around.

                      Originally posted by chiefbrody10 View Post
                      it was a dream,now i can t come here without seeing one,its turned into an ordinary porn site,it also appears its what the female staff want more than anyone else
                      I'll bet it's not! That Abby Winters survived the move from Australia suggests it continues to produce what its paying membership (mostly) wants rather than only what its staff want.

                      Originally posted by chiefbrody10 View Post
                      ,and you ve now deliberately made the girl/girl shoots look bland with lack of interest compared to the b/g shoots.
                      Really? If anything the opposite is true: the two most recent GB shoots, Aletta & Harold & Leon & Saskia are the only two I’ve found to match the passion of, say, Lacie and Nichole and Carmina & Evelina. If those shoots are bland, please tell where I can find non bland shoots.

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                        Originally posted by chiefbrody10 View Post
                        see, i left the site and came back,and the first thing i see on the right of the screen is a speical message from undressed paul and dressed keriln,and really don t want to see that.
                        Hi Chief,

                        You DO understand not everybody shares your likes and dislikes by now? I seem to recall a long thread years ago about having not-modeling staff-members in backstage pics? Was fun initially but it doesn't get you anywhere if you insist everybody else must adapt. It is much easier (also for you) to adapt a little yourself and simply avoid stuff which you know already might annoy you. Why focus on stuff you won't like anyway ?

                        About that pic of Paul and Karlijn you mentioned, Paul is undressed top-half yes, now what's scary about that ? Don't you go to the beach in summer ??

                        Even if g/b shoots get their own section, there are likely to be backstage/awhq-today/special-message pictures that will not fit your very specific requirements. Easiest would be to close/minimize the two widgets on mainpage . The site remembers those settings and you'll not see any pics in those anymore so can't possibly be annoyed at them.

                        Now if you want to browse the site without ever seeing anything male, you could bookmark:

                        http://www.abbywinters.com/browse/shoots/solo and
                        http://www.abbywinters.com/browse/sh...timate_moments and
                        Use powerful filters and search to find real amateur shoots that float your boat - even if you're not a member.


                        which should give you female-only shoots, do avoid backstage vids from girl/girl if you want to be REALLY safe. You will be missing out on nice content of course, but that's your choice.

                        Now just go and watch the recent girl/girl shoots and you will definitely find some you like.

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                          hello frans,wheres luxman ?
                          slipstakes makes a nice point about the g/g having more passion,because this is what i was afraid of, the b/g shoots are straight forward sex ,but the girl/girl (seem to be) looking for something gimmicky,and a bit distracting,but i say whats wrong with straight forward ? thats how you will get the realism and passion i want to see in a girl/girl,i haven t seen all the new ones to judge but will check out the ones slipstakes likes.
                          i also like to see the end of the videos with the girls laying there holding ,kissing,petting,like the patience/giselle,zasha/carly,emma/valerie.

                          frans,if i stay can i get my old posting number back ?

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                            Chief, some shoots are straight-forward as you call it, some are not. That way more members get to see what they like. If you don't like 'gimmicky' shoots, just post a comment saying why once and ignore those shoots. Focus on stuff you like I always say. There are shoots matching what you want (carian/lacie comes to mind), but that's a bit outside the topic of *this* thread

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                              Originally posted by chiefbrody10 View Post
                              frans,if i stay can i get my old posting number back ?
                              Try sending a request to the support people... http://www.abbywinters.com/help/support They should (I hope) be able to give you back you old user name as you haven't been away that long.

                              Good Luck...

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                                Hi Frans
                                You DO understand not everybody shares your likes and dislikes by now? I seem to recall a long thread years ago about having not-modeling staff-members in backstage pics? Was fun initially but it doesn't get you anywhere if you insist everybody else must adapt. It is much easier (also for you) to adapt a little yourself and simply avoid stuff which you know already might annoy you. Why focus on stuff you won't like anyway ?


                                yes,and if someone informed me about toby's buttcrack back then,i wouldn t have been so active,but,abby winters staff (when i arrived) were verity,jamie,cassie,matilda + penelope,all had modeled as well on the site,that was a kind of utopia,it wasn't just me,as soon as the new lot came in,other members were saying,hi,when are you going to model ? because they were also fans of the type of site it was, and sort of expected it the one called prue teased she was thinking of it,then every time there was a new staff member,garion started by saying,this is (whoever) she's new to the staff and dont ask her if she's going to model,then they all started appearig n the preview photos smurking or eating at the camera,and i found it uncalled for,my efforts (and i do believe i am responcible) led to a lot of models becoming staff members again,melita,anneke,jaclki and patience are some examples ,and i believe it still goes on today

                                as for my dislike of boys on the site,i know there are a handful of couples who are members who like it (as indicated by one reply),and as always all the community board members are yes men or fence sitters (no offence) but the thousands of membes are mostly male, and i really believe,even though they might want to see girls with dongs in their mouth (and sorry for the expression) they do not want to see males giving special messages telling us to put a thumb's up,this is decidedly creepy,and is there because the all female shooting staff want it.
                                Last edited by chiefbrody10; 23 July 2012, 12:28 AM.

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                                  As a female shooter I am very confused to find out on the boards that I get such a huge influence over what I shoot and indeed what goes up on the site. Sure we get to collaborate with models on what they would like to shoot on the day and are encouraged to think up fun ideas for shoots in general but being able to enginer a whole new site section and then dictate all the elements that make up that section - nope.

                                  Try the 'Talk to the creative director thread' to locate b/g origins.

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                                    haha.. Masie... You had that crash problem again.... me to... about 30 mins ago... Think there must have been a glitch on the sight. Anyway... if its worth saying once then its worth saying twice.

                                    Chief... I don't think of myself as a yes man or fence sitter... If I don't like something I say it and if I don't agree with something from member or AWHQ, I say it. My only restriction is I will say it about the site of content but not the model. Anyway... I think you will find that the whole increase in G/B shoots on the site is $$$ and the potential to get more new members, as G/B websites are generally the most popular and girls only sites are almost a "fetish" type site. I'm sure that bringing the whole AW style or natural and real to G/B shoots will be a huge hit amongst many new members as it's very different to what is out there at the moment. Personally... I joined AW because it didn't have G/B shoots and are not super keen on this new direction. But by just not watching the shoots I have come to a happy place. Where I'm still getting my fix of the lovely ladies and other members that are fans of the G/B stuff are also satisfied.

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                                      Originally posted by chiefbrody10 View Post
                                      as for my dislike of boys on the site,i know there are a handful of couples who are members who like it (as indicated by one reply),and as always all the community board members are yes men or fence sitters (no offence) but the thousands of membes are mostly male, and i really believe,even though they might want to see girls with dongs in their mouth (and sorry for the expression) they do not want to see males giving special messages telling us to put a thumb's up,this is decidedly creepy,and is there because the all female shooting staff want it.
                                      There you go again assuming you speak for all not-posting members. Posting arguments that way doesn't help. Just state what YOU don't like and if possible *why* you don't like it. Taste doesn't have to be 'defended' by claiming support of invisible not-posting members.

                                      Generally speaking I think that members who agree with what goes up on the site tend NOT to post. Which is too bad but it's human nature only to post/mail when you want to complain. Haven't seen that many dislikes for g/b shoots been posted. Maybe most do like Pinky does and simply don't view them, I don't know. I'm pretty sure some new members like 'm as the demand for 'properly done g/b shoots' has always been high, several members have requested it over the years.

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                                        I have hardly ever posted so perhaps I qualify as one of the "silent majority". I LIKE the g/b shoots! Some more than others admittedly. We don't need too many of them, about once a month seems just right so well done AW

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                                          Would you ever shoot a threesome, perhaps B/G/G or B/B/G if the couple was poly? I'd love to see that.

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                                            Never say never. Personally (and this is Masie the model not aw the company talking) I think 3 somes could run the risk of looking a bit mainstream porno so it would lnly work if real couples were involved.

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                                              I agree with Masie as far as the threesome running the risk of moving toward mainstream porno. I am not a fan of B/G and feel nervous about any kind of expansion of this genre. I get that most subscribers to this site are men so it is likely to eventually go that direction. I remember seeing an old post somewhere saying that B/G would only happen once a year or so. Of course this has become a regular feature and now seems to happen about once a month. So I suppose if you stay tuned long enough you will even get your threesomes.

                                              You know what I find most interesting is that people come here because it is different and a large number of subscribers I think really want it to stay different. However, there are also those who seem to want to inch it towards the mainstream. My question is "Why?". Isn't there enough mainstream in the mainstream?

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                                                Why? Because I don't see threesomes as "mainstream porn". There are plenty of poly couples out there, and I figured that if they were planning on having a shoot for AW, they might be encouraged to bring one more buddy/gal along for the ride. I'm not calling for a chiseled stud to come in and have his way with women in fishnets.

                                                I guess I'm just really glad that AW has resumed shooting regular content with couples. Its a nice change of pace from the scripted G/G shoots that have become mostly stale for me.

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                                                  As the policy is that only G/B shoots where they are actually in a relationship (as a couple) are done on AW. I would imagine that finding a threesome where all three are in the same relationship (together) would be remote.

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                                                    Originally posted by mrpinkeyes View Post
                                                    As the policy is that only G/B shoots where they are actually in a relationship (as a couple) are done on AW. I would imagine that finding a threesome where all three are in the same relationship (together) would be remote.
                                                    Ah, but who are we to dictate what constitutes as a relationship? If a polyamorous model had both a male and female lover and wanted to share their relationship with us, that would be something that interested me (although obviously up to the Creative Director on whether or not it would be a good shoot idea). We have had many polyamorous models in the past, and I believe - although I'm not sure and I apologise for presuming - that Sadie, Jodhi and another model you guys haven't seen yet, called Lulu, are all polyamorous.

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                                                      Yes... but from listening to Jodie... It was my understanding that she was in a relationship with a number of different men/women. But I took it more as she was the sun with all the planets around not that she and her partners were in an equal shared relationship. I hope that made some sense.

                                                      I'll try that again. But from a different angle, I think a number of AW couples may have been involved in threesomes. The third party may be in a sexual relationship but not part of the actual "real couple" or "threesome" so to speak.

                                                      But yes... if a polyamorous model is in a relationship with a man and women and all three of them were also involved in a relationship, then that would be something that would interest me.. well it wouldn't, there is still a "B" next to the "G" but I see how that would fit into the previous set criteria of AW g/b shoots.

                                                      It appears that G/G/G T3 shoots are very rare on AW (off the top of my head I only recall one involving Chloe B, so would have thought AW would be more likely to do that before a B/G/G or B/G/B (god forbid).

                                                      Question to you Ms. H... Is there any questions asked or checks done by AWHQ to confirm that there is actually some kind of relationship between the models and they are not just coming for the money and fun?? Also.. totally off the subject, but it just popped into me head. Do the male models also need to be tested before doing a shoot?? As if they are a couple and he is not going to be in contact with any other models then I'm thinking is it needed. But I would imagine there must be some written or unwritten rule in the industry that ALL models involved in T3 shoots must be tested before doing a shoot.

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                                                        Different preferences for different people

                                                        OK, so the chief doesn't like seeing B/G stuff. That's his privilege. I personally don't get off on pee -- but there's a fair few shoots that feature this particular squik. I simply try to avoid them without making a fuss.

                                                        For me, a shoot with one of the models and a bloke is a turn-on, but I recognise that it isn't for some others.

                                                        What is different with AW is that it isn't one bloke with a bunch of different women. And in conventional porn sites it seems clear that the bloke has little respect for the partners. I can think of one competitor where the guy makes a habit of taking his willy and hitting the woman on various parts of her body -- I can't find anything remotely sexy in this. It just seems degrading.

                                                        Part of what made the Jamie/Luke shoot from so long ago a favourite was the interaction between the couple. Eliza S and Sebastian is also a favourite for the same reason. (The fact that Eliza is drop-dead gorgeous doesn't hurt either. Love those knickers.)

                                                        I'd dearly love to see Adelle in a B/G -- she has mentioned a boyfriend in videos. And I recon that Marlene would also be good value(but her preferences and relationship status aren't as clear). For that matter, when is Gaby's B/G going up?

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                                                          Originally posted by AnAussieImport View Post
                                                          OK, so the chief doesn't like seeing B/G stuff. That's his privilege. I personally don't get off on pee -- but there's a fair few shoots that feature this particular squik. I simply try to avoid them without making a fuss.
                                                          Poor Pinky isn't a huge fan of G/B or pee shoots... But there is more than enough to keep me happy... and I might make an exception for the "long pee" as that's sport.. and my love of naked girls and sport outweighs my thoughts of pee shoots.

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                                                            Sorry to register for the boards just to complain, but I feel very misled by this piece on the FAQ (Stylistic) page:

                                                            "But, we just did not like shooting guys with girls, so we don't do it much any more. And anyway, it's not really what we're about.

                                                            We may shoot more girl-boy stuff in the future, perhaps one a year at the most.



                                                            We know it's popular (our site is already quite popular), we know we could make a mint if we did more (we're not about making more money), we know (you think) we're crazy.



                                                            Please don't ask us to shoot more of them. Thanks."


                                                            Not being a fan of B/G, I joined after reading that. Hah.



                                                            Annoyingly, it seems to me that B/G shoots are getting more and more attention, edging the girl-girl stuff into staged, 'porny' territory (spanking, chocolate, light bondage etc.) I'm sure some people like that, but it's not for me - so I'm cancelling.


                                                            Again, sorry to complain but I think you should update that FAQ page.

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                                                              Originally posted by MattA1 View Post
                                                              Sorry to register for the boards just to complain, but I feel very misled by this piece on the FAQ (Stylistic) page:

                                                              "But, we just did not like shooting guys with girls, so we don't do it much any more. And anyway, it's not really what we're about. We may shoot more girl-boy stuff in the future, perhaps one a year at the most.

                                                              We know it's popular (our site is already quite popular), we know we could make a mint if we did more (we're not about making more money), we know (you think) we're crazy. Please don't ask us to shoot more of them. Thanks."

                                                              Not being a fan of B/G, I joined after reading that. Hah.

                                                              Annoyingly, it seems to me that B/G shoots are getting more and more attention, edging the girl-girl stuff into staged, 'porny' territory (spanking, chocolate, light bondage etc.) I'm sure some people like that, but it's not for me - so I'm cancelling.

                                                              Again, sorry to complain but I think you should update that FAQ page.
                                                              Hey Matt,

                                                              No problem complaining - really, I'd say this is feedback! - and very helpful at that. Recently, we have started adding one GB shoot a month to the site, and we plan to keep doing that.

                                                              GB shoots are absolutely not affecting our GG shoots (content or volume), and if you have feedback on GG shoots we definitely want to hear about it - here on the boards, or to me directly on garion.hall@abbywinters.com if you prefer a more private forum.

                                                              In other news, we just added a new feature to the site, a preference option for "no penis". Set this, and you'll almost never see a penis on the site (there are some minor exceptions, if you really try hard, more info in the No penis thread). Have a go at My Account, Preferences, No penis.

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