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    What about..."back there"?

    After becoming an avid AW fan I started to realise one thing.
    There is little or no touching around the anal region. Now I don't mean huge, gross penetrations, but just a little tickle or lick.
    Would other members like to see a little tease of anal play?
    What do the models think?
    What does Abby think?
    Any thoughts?

    #2
    Not I. I've never been much of an anus person. (Although some of the people I work with can be SO goddamned anal sometimes...) I mean, I don't object if it happens to appear in a shot, because, you know, hey, there it is and there's no use denying it, but when a girl spreads her buttocks specificalyl to display her anus, I find that mighty unattractive. But before this post starts another argument that veers well away from the point of the thread, let me just get to the point and say I've never been into anal play. If the models themselves want to do any, that's fine — I'll just skip over that part.

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      #3
      'back there'

      I would also enjoy seeing some touching/playing with that region. I'm an anal person and like seeing a nice cutie ass.

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        #4
        I always like to see a bit of the old "Rusty Bullet Hole"in the photo shoots.But as long as they're clean!

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          #5
          I think there are two issues here: - views of the anus, and anal play.

          As for views, yes please. If the model is happy to pose in a way that reveals her rosebud then, I'm all for it. Unlike Dafydd, I've no qualms about models specifically exposing their bumholes, though I tend to be left cold by the more extreme 'gaping' shots that seem to be big in US gonzo porn nowadays. (I doubt Abby would go this far in any case!). For me the pleasure in such shots comes firstly from the visual image - some bit of 'faulty learning' (or whatever) means that I find a woman's anus aesthetically pleasing - and secondly from the idea of seeing such an intimate part of the model's body. Intimacy is sexy, no?

          (By the way,It seems to me that there are more bum shots - both in terms of displaying the anus and in terms of just displaying the buttocks - in the more recent sets than in the sets from the early days of the site. I believe Abby was responding to requests from members in this forum by increasing the number of rear shots and /or generally developing as an erotic photographer).

          As for anal play, I'd be happy to see this if it's something the model personally enjoys as the pleasure for me as a viewer would come primarily from the pleasure the model experiences in the action. However, this implies that anal play would need to be something that the model is interested in privately. I also presume (possibly wrongly) that this applies only to a minority of models and that only a minority of them would want to be filmed doing this. (After all, I assume the majority of models enjoy sex, but only a minority have agreed to be photographed having sex). I also imagine this might be a difficult subject for Abby (or Jamie, as model liaison) to even broach with a model, and guess on those rare occasions it does occur it may have been initiated by the model.

          To sum up, I'll take anal play when it arises 'naturally' but I'm not bothered if it never arises and wouldn't want Abby to concern herself with trying to make it happen.

          (There, I managed a whole post on the subject without posting links to any close-up pics of the prettiest bumholes. I must be a reformed character )
          Last edited by pjay; 3 April 2004, 11:47 PM. Reason: I'm simple and can't spell properly.

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            #6
            Originally posted by pjay

            (There, I managed a whole post on the subject without posting links to any close-up pics of the prettiest bumholes. I must be a reformed character )
            Come on pjay, its only YOU who can professionaly launch the "aesthetica anal orifice" thread. I'm sure you will have many followers ..........

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              #7
              I totally agree to pjay - it should be something to model enjoys to do, but if it's that - I really would like to see rear shots (no gaping holes, that's also right) and anal play. But I also agree that this is nothing abby or jamie should bother about. if it occurs, fine, if it doesn't, fine, too.

              btw, I hab some anal-sex experience with an ex girl-friend, who enjoyed it and brought it on the scene herself, and whoo-hoo, gotta tell ya, that really was fun!

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                #8
                I’m not an “anal person” at all. I have no problem to see a butthole, but I’m not really on a search for it. I don’t like very much when the model does silly poses just to show her anus. It’s not natural, it’s rather artificial.

                What I like instead is the “accidental” view of the rosetta while normal (whatever this is) shots. The girl bends over to grab something, and there it is, that’s funny and nice. If she is comfortable and starts to play a little bit around, it's also ok.

                What I don’t like to see is the insertion of 1, 2, 3 or more (?!?) fingers into the anus. Ugh!! The most horrible thing for me is the fist fuck, vaginal or anal, no difference. It turns me completely off.

                lxm

                One silly joke:
                A lady to her gynaecologist while examination: “Doctor, you hurt me with your ring!”
                Doctor: “It’s not my ring, it’s my wrist watch!”

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                  #9
                  I completely agree with Pjay, I do enjoy seeing the anus, but I am not into the more extreme anal activities.

                  I can appreciate the beauty of each model, and their willingness to display their hidden charms. As Luxman describes, it's the incidental views rather than the purposeful poses that are more attractive to me. A quick peek is more rewarding than a blatant, "look at my asshole!" pose. Oh, and the girl should be clean, but I haven't seen any girls here that were otherwise.

                  As far as anal play, I enjoy watching it as a course of normal exploration, not as central theme of a situation. It's natural for two people to explore each other's bodies, including the anus. As long as two people are open and trusting of each other, I don't find a casual anal contact to be gross at all.

                  Having said that, I can't think of a single situation at AW.com where two models have experimented with anal play. It would be a nice addition, but I won't be disappointed if it never happens.

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                    #10
                    Completly agree with pjay and luxman. No extreme gaping, no insertions please, otherwise I love buttshots.

                    Fortunately there are many wonderful close-ups of buttholes at aw and - most important - always in the "whole person context" (as pjay cleared out at his vulvae thread)

                    What I like to point at is the interesting variety of rosettas we are presented: browny nice round ones, chubby "outy" like kelly090, tiny like sonya085, tiny redhairy like lizzie_r075, naturraly gaping like louise067 or zana121, sizeably and prominent like morgan047, etc. Very enjoyable.

                    For anal play: want to leave that up to the girls, dont mind the occasional teasing or slightly pulling near the "back there" though.

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                      #11
                      Gaping: no. Thats gross. Insertions? OK. I could see it in deviations. And some anal play in g/g shoot? Sure, if they're into it. I'll trust Abby to do it right.

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                        #12
                        With you on that one, just looks really weird and offputting the gaping hole of the backdoor, Some American Sites do tend to think that everyone loves all the gaping anal play, just looks a little weird to me and not particularly sexy, I do love womens bums very much and find it cute like someone else said if they are bending over and you see her bumhole and a little anal lickinf from two girls looks very sexual and nice but just no gaping open fisting buttholes please.

                        Phil

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                          #13
                          I think it's cool

                          I would love to see a category of the models who have spread back there.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by unovision
                            With you on that one, just looks really weird and offputting the gaping hole of the backdoor, Some American Sites do tend to think that everyone loves all the gaping anal play, just looks a little weird to me...
                            That's exactly what I think. I find it disgusting when a girl opens her anus so wide that you think you're looking at the entrance of a subway tunnel. Not for me, really.

                            Lxm

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                              #15
                              I must say, I find a (nice and clean) arse hole to be one of the sexiest, most secret parts of a girls body. I love to see a pretty girls anus, I do admit it. I also really enjoy anal play, and I do wish we could see a little more of that in the g/g shots. I guess that is really up to the girls envolved though. Please note, I am not talking about the mainstream porn version with gaping anuses and huge objects and etc... just a little more arse fun would be lovely!
                              Lawrence

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                                #16
                                There was a shot recently which I mentioned on the forums where the girl's hole was not clean at all! I had not seen this before, and did not find it a turn on at all - quite the opposite! But normally I like the bumhole shots.

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                                  #17
                                  It's nice to see some bum action.

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                                    #18
                                    I'd like to add my own vaguely related 0.02 (having spent a little time in the web porn biz way back in 1994...)

                                    Alot of porn sites today think that the best way to appeal to everyone's 'peculiar interests' (and I do not use the phrase in a derogatory way; I have a few myself) is to stuff every fetish imaginable into the same photo shoot, or onto the same model. Erectile disaster looms!

                                    Let's say for a moment that I'm into big gorgeous bums... but I'm also a clean freak. Many ass-oriented shoots go straight on to the anal dildo... a great way to make Mr Clean Freak Ass Man go limp instantly. "But.. but... it includes lots of bum pics!"

                                    (FWIW, no that combination isn't me; but I do have a similar conflation in mind regarding my own interests. I ran a pee site long ago and learned instantly that, eg, piss and scat do *not* mix, even if there are a handful of folks who can't keep them straight when spamming Usenet.)

                                    Abby's shoots seem to be very model-driven... a wonderful and rare thing! There tends to be very little of mixing 100 different interests into the same shoot where the poor girl in front of the camera is 'displaying the professionalism of a working actress'. And I'm not saying 'please no anal!' because lots of guys (and girls) do like it, even if I may not. I'm just saying, throwing it into alot of random shoots is likely to scare away as many as it entices. 'Peculiar interests' are picky, as Abby's no doubt already learned the hard way. They're not additive, and most porn sites don't ever seem to learn that.

                                    Monty

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                                      #19
                                      Monty,

                                      From your limited number of posts it appears that you are relatively new here. Welcome. You hit the nail on the head when you said "Abby's shoots seem to be very model-driven." There's a thread somewhere on this board with screen shots of the forms the interviewers ask new models, in explicit detail, so the photographer knows what the girl is comfortable with. That's most likely why almost everything on this site seems so fresh and natural.

                                      As for bum shots, keep those coming -- in the proper context, with the proper models, of course. The Elizabeth sample is an excellent example.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Howie348
                                        There's a thread somewhere on this board with screen shots of the forms the interviewers ask new models, in explicit detail, so the photographer knows what the girl is comfortable with. That's most likely why almost everything on this site seems so fresh and natural.
                                        Oh yes, may I help with the appropriate link, it's right here.

                                        Lxm

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                                          #21
                                          Xiphmont has made a very good point about what can go wrong with a lot of porn and not one that I recall seeing made so neatly before.

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                                            #22
                                            If the word "decent" can be used in a duscussion about porn...I think it's appropriate here. The comments in this thread express actual respect for the models who are kind enough to take their clothes off for us. This site seems to be an oasis in a desert of degradation, both for the providers and the consumers.
                                            A few mentions have been made of some of the more raw American porn....I'm a "sep" (yes, I know what that means...lived in Thailand for a year and hung out with a lot of Aussies)..and I fully agree that much of American porn is just plain crude. There are times I can't get to the X to close a page fast enough...am waiting for someone to come up with a verbal-command browser that will instantly respond to "Yuck!" But there are people (wouldn't want to meet them) who do want to see the grossest extremes, so it sells and it's out there. But not on AW...that's why I'm here. Very considerate of AW to have the icons indicating content. When I see the little water drop, I say "Thanks for the warning, Abby." I may still run the vid, but if I'm going to save it, out comes the editing software.
                                            So count me in on the school of thought that says if a bum gets shown on AW as a flowing natural part of what happens, and the girl doesn't mind, that's fine...but to make it an obligatory item as a shotgun approach marketing theme ...there are plenty of places you can see that. We all have our own lines seperating beauty/erotica from things that are personal turn-offs. I love naked women, and it's all nice...including bums and vaginas,....but the rude (my opinion) gaping and stretching and the fisting and the like...well...if I want to study gynecology/proctology I'll go to med school.
                                            Mac
                                            Last edited by netpervin; 3 January 2005, 08:07 PM.

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                                              #23
                                              Took the words right out of my mouth NETPERVIN, I agree 100 Percent. You can find 1000 or more FREE pictures of what I see as the rude crude act of anal insertions (Fisting, Vegetables, dildos, and other items I don't even know the names of, because I x-out faster than my 866mhz could close the screen.) I really do enjoy the way AW has shot their models, it is artistic and erotic yet it all stayed natural. We can all recall a girl that looked like one of these and as we see the pictures smile. Keep it up AW

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                                                #24
                                                by the way I do love a nice and round tight ass shot. beautiful.

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                                                  #25
                                                  I think if Abby wants it it is OK, She has a Good eye for how much Stuff goes up on her sight.

                                                  We have had Minor dissagreements, but I agree with 99% of her decisions.

                                                  so ask and if she likes she will do, and it Will Be GOOD!!

                                                  Later

                                                  Bubba

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                                                    #26
                                                    Bubba...You're spot on....Abby continually proves her judgement is to be trusted....plus the editorial descriptions and comments, the at-a-glance informative icons, and especially the custom downloads,.... all make it so easy to view what you like and ignore what you don't. A lot of conscientious work goes into this site...and it shows.
                                                    Mac

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                                                      #27
                                                      The anus is your friend not foe it be licked and kissed in order to maintain
                                                      sexual health

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                                                        #28
                                                        When your done it will take you a year to wipe the smile off their face

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                                                          #29
                                                          I'm not going to make any excuses or feel any shame or guilt It
                                                          turns me on to see teenage girls getting naked. Abby has a softer
                                                          edge compared to some of the stuff I saw. We need more butt action.

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