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    Greetings & Customer Service in the World's Oldest Profession

    Well, I'm quite new to this site and forum so I'll take the opportunity to say: Hello everyone! (and I'd offer heartfelt compliments like everyone else but Abby is probably tired of hearing it by now ) Instead, here's something I have been thinking about for a while.

    Although we are born naked and sex is one of our strongest and most basic biological drives, sexuality itself has a long way to go before being embraced by mainstream civilization in most parts of the world. If being a pornographer or otherwise employed in the 'adult' industry carries a certain stigma, being a consumer of this same industry is an equal or perhaps even greater shame. And when indulging in physical pleasure is not enough, some of us, stupid though it may be, can even become involved emotionally - in effect, developing crushes on some of these girls. This is where the problem starts. Porn-watchers know that most of the models we ogle on adult sites would not spare us a second look in the 'real world', that in spite of our dreams and fantasies, they likely would not wish to know us, or speak to us, or do anything outside of what they were paid for. At least, that has been my experience in the past. What's your opinion? Are we, the clients, just a bunch of sad, repulsive perverts in the eyes of those we desire? Arguments can be made both for and against, but I'd like to hear what others think.
    Last edited by Slashco; 24 April 2004, 07:23 AM.

    #2
    Hi Slashco,

    Welcome to the site and the boards.

    I sometimes poll models on these issues, sometimes it comes up when I ask a model to do something, and they say "people really want to see THAT!?". I get a range of reactions, from "ew, gross!", to "whatever", to "fuckin' BRING IT ON!". These reactions apply to what they think of their "customers" (ie, you) as well.

    Most models are aware of the reason we're paying them to get naked, though some come to us under the delusion that guys never masturbate. I dunno WTF they think we're doing, tho.

    a

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      #3
      I think this has been a topic ever since at the worlds oldest profession. Personally I dont see it too bad if we watch and "consume" porn (Question: is aw.com porn?) on the internet, it must be in the genes of men "biting into" the alluring stuff of naked women. Some reckon its essential for the survival of mankind? For me its also clear that most models would not spare us a second look in the "real world", thats another story at all.

      In "real life" I'm married, have kids, a well paid job, all in all a happy social life. I encouter also a lot of women (private and business reasons) in everyday life, which I get along pretty easy and well indeed. I assume there is some "Jekyll & Hyde" going on in everybody, also women.

      Its interesting what abby said on the reactions of the girls. Its essential that the girls feel comfortable about what they are doing, making money with it is only normal. At aw.com I sense everybody has been treated well.

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        #4
        I've always wondered if the girls who pose do it knowing that men will be masturbating to their pictures. I mean, there is certainly something to be said about just admiring the beauty of women, and more often than not, I will just look at the pictures in that way, but if I find the girl attractive, hey, eventually, yes, I will masturbate to her pictures. I think for a model to be comfortable posing nude, she would have to know and accept the fact, even better if she likes the idea. Sure, she may not give me a second look in the real world, but I like to think that she enjoys the idea that her pictures will turn men on and that yes, surprise surprise, most of those men looking at her pictures will masturbate to them.

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          #5
          For she was not only shameless but tried to make everyone else shameless, too.

          Originally posted by yealith
          I think this has been a topic ever since at the worlds oldest profession...
          Hundreds of years ago, young Theodora got a kick out of taking her clothes off knowing that she was turning men on. (Years later, she became Empress of Byzantium, from 527 to 548 A.D. and had a brilliant reign. She was a smart, decisive, imaginative woman - probably the equal of Abby.)

          "The Secret History" by Procopius, official historian to the Byzantine emperor Justinian, captures Theodora teasing the hell out of the males of Byzantium at the theatre, where she hung out with actors.


          Originally posted by Procopius
          Theodora mixed with actors in every aspect of theatre work and shared with them in their training there, even assisting with their jesting and ribaldry. For she was exceptionally quick and funny, and immediately became the center of attention because of her efforts. . .

          Often even in the theatre, in full sight of the people Theodora undressed and was naked in the middle, having only a ribbon about her private parts and crotch - not that she was ashamed to show even those to the crowd, but because no one is permitted to run around totally naked in the theatre.

          Thus, wearing this get-up, she fell backwards on the ground and lay there on her back. Certain hired hands to whom the task was assigned tossed grain all over her private parts. Geese that happened to have been trained for just this purpose picked off this grain one kernel at a time from there with their bills and ate it. Not even when she got up did she blush; rather she was often even proud of this performance. For she was not only shameless but tried to make everyone else shameless, too.

          Also, she often stood naked with the actors in their midst on the stage, arching her back and . . . boasting of the deeds of this "her customary wrestling school."
          Abby, bring on the geese! ("ew, gross!")

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            #6
            Originally posted by Seashore
            if I find the girl attractive, hey, eventually, yes, I will masturbate to her pictures.
            That's a rather nasty and dare I say it, unnatural habit you going there Seashore. Think of the guilt you feel knowing that you had to pleasure yourself, alone - like I said, unnatural.

            If I were you I would desist from this. I suggest you do what I did and direct your energies to your career and become wealthy.

            I can now afford to employ a Filipino houseboy to toss me off whilst Rossetta, our Peruvian maid and childminder, flicks the pages with the mouse button.

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              #7
              Sex is like money, only too much is enough. - John Updike

              Originally posted by Abby
              Most models are aware of the reason we're paying them to get naked, though some come to us under the delusion that guys never masturbate. I dunno WTF they think we're doing, tho.
              a
              If God had intended us not to masturbate, he would have made our arms shorter. - George Carlin

              The nice thing about masturbation is that you don't have to dress up for it. - Truman Capote

              Sex is too good to share with anyone else. - Philip Larkin

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                #8
                Roops,

                When you say your Peruvian maid flicks the pages with the mouse button, are you speaking of pages as in "ones employed to assist patrons"? How many pages do you have? Do they assist you in your unsavory endeavors as does your Filippino houseboy? What effect does being flicked with the mouse button have on the pages? Do they rise to the occassion? Do they shudder with glee?

                How does the effervescent and beautiful Mrs. Roops respond to all of this? Does she flick the pages as well? With a mouse button?!

                You really got me going with this one, Roops.

                Arsby

                P.S. *Please* don't tell me you have female pages, my imagination would explode.

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                  #9
                  Seashore,

                  Don't listen to Roops, we're living in the 21st century now and it's quite all right to masturbate without feeling guilt.

                  *IF* your mother says it's okay.

                  Arsby

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by yealith
                    Question: is aw.com porn.
                    I asked this same question of Abby once, and she corrected me by saying it's great porn. I concur.

                    As for the models, I would imagine their opinions of us vary. From exhibitionists to models comfortable with their bodies, some of the girls may enjoy the thought of us as an audience. Other girls may harbor a certain amount of distaste for our tastes, but pose for the money.

                    On one level (below the waist), I don't mind what they think as long as the clothes come peeling off. But on another level (above the waist), I respect Abby's girls, and think they're genuinely nice people and would be fun to hang around with. I probably wouldn't be able to say that for many of the vapid professional porn actresses. They seem to me to be as shallow as they appear.

                    Although it's fun to think we know something about the girls, from their bios, monologues and vulnerable nudity, the models are probably happy being an anonymous citizen of the planet. To be honest, my self-image of incredible good looks probably wouldn't get me very far with these young treats. (I think the mirror lies to me, I can't be in my mid thirties already!)

                    Whatever they think of us, I'd just like to say to them that I personally find the whole package appealing. I enjoy their stories nearly as much as I enjoy their bodies.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by v_m_smith
                      ...
                      (I think the mirror lies to me, I can't be in my mid thirties already!)...
                      Check out "The Picture of Dorian Gray" by Oscar Wilde. I just finished it on audio books. Dorian's portrait ages and he doesn't.

                      I also think Oscar would have liked AW.com.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bigspud
                        Check out "The Picture of Dorian Gray" by Oscar Wilde. I just finished it on audio books. Dorian's portrait ages and he doesn't.

                        I also think Oscar would have liked AW.com.
                        Generally, Oscar Wilde's tastes ran more to men, y'know!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by pjay
                          Generally, Oscar Wilde's tastes ran more to men, y'know!
                          No actually I didn't, but thinking about it now I can see that. I was thinking more along the lines of freedom of pleasure. Thanks for the info.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by v_m_smith
                            Although it's fun to think we know something about the girls, from their bios, monologues and vulnerable nudity, the models are probably happy being an anonymous citizen of the planet.
                            That's what I suppose too, the models will have their own life after their excursion trip to this sort of thing. A "bad" reputation is the least you want for a proper social life afterwards, as the girls will get married (to men just like us ) will have children, doing business and so on. Anonymity, is likely to be normal at this "business" for both parts, a good compromise.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by v_m_smith
                              I asked this same question of Abby once, and she corrected me by saying it's great porn. I concur.
                              After thinking more about it:

                              Could we also say: AW is great noble porn.

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                                #16
                                For me AW.com isn't “simple porn", "great porn" or "noble great porn", it’s a lot more.

                                In my eyes AW.com is fantastic Eroticism with a certain level of explicitness. The eroticism is the most important part and is based on the models, their natural behaviour and last but surely not least the great talent of the photographer. The explicitness is a highly welcome bonus.

                                A big part of the pictures here could participate to, and win a contest, I’m sure.

                                lxm

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                                  #17
                                  And don't forget, the videos are really great too. You just need to change the mike-batteries at time and use a water level to adjust the tripod in the future. And you better stop playing around with the exposure level.

                                  AW team, please don't be angry, I'm just teasing you.
                                  As you know, I love your work.

                                  lxm
                                  Last edited by Luxman; 23 May 2004, 10:01 PM.

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                                    #18
                                    The microphone doesn't need batteries anymore, it's a new camera. And the four girls shoot had to be shot quickly before the light vanished - and trying to level out a tripod on wet sand (or actually in the ocean) is pretty much impossible anyway.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Vid Dude
                                      The microphone doesn't need batteries anymore, it's a new camera.
                                      You know, I've asked myself why you would need to change the mike-battery on the PD-170. Which camera did you use for the Allanah R & Elise M video? And why did you use a separated microphone, are the built-in mikes not good inough for your requirements?

                                      lxm

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                                        #20
                                        It was a VX2000 back then - we got the PD-170s just afterward, I think around December last year.

                                        The built in mikes are too wide. We use a directional mike so we get sharp detail, and less extraneous noise (like the rustling of the camera operator).

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                                          #21
                                          I'm sure the models know why men will look at their pictures, but I feel that they will always think that there will be attractive men looking at them. Men like us (okay, like me anyway) will never meet beautiful women, much less, see one take off her clothes. Without sites like this, we could only imagine what a beautiful woman would look like nude. I mean let's face it, the average Joe isn't much to look at, if we were, we would have beautiful women getting naked for us, but we aren't, so we don't. I even signed up with one of those online matchmaker sites, but when I sent them my picture with the signup fee, they sent back the money and picture saying that they weren't interested.(I should have sent someone else's picture). I know I'm not much to look at, and I'm sure most women would agree, so the odds of someone like me getting a girlfriend that's attractive are slim to none. Heck my last date didn't even have a chin, although her facial hair hid that deficiency rather well. I actually almost had a date from a free online dating service, but even though she looked like a truck driver, she stopped communicating with me when she saw my picture.
                                          Like I told my ex-wife once when we were arguing about something stupid and she asked, "Well if you feel that way, then why did you marry me?" I replied, "Because at the time, you're the best I could do." I think most men feel this way.....their wives are the best they could do at the time, and knowing what they know now, they'd probably have remained single, as opposed to marrying them.....unless their wives look like the models on Abby's site, in which case, why would they have married the man?
                                          Fantasy.....it's what dreams are made of....(wait, fantasy is dreams....let me rephrase that). Fantasy.....it's what keeps us from leaving our wives.(except in my case since my wife did leave me to run off with my best friend....well, actually, I had never met the guy before, but since he took her off my hands, I now consider him to be my best friend.)

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                                            #22
                                            I'd like to think that any number of the models would have fun hanging out with me, but I harbor no fantasies that they'd want me sexually. To be honest, I don't really mind. I'm just grateful that they took the time and trouble to pose for the pictures (and have the girlsex) that I can see here.

                                            Oh, and for the sake of sheer pedantry, while the "adult industry" (typically prostitution) tends to get the credit, the World's Oldest Profession is in fact, midwifery.

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by dekoda

                                              (except in my case since my wife did leave me to run off with my best friend....well, actually, I had never met the guy before, but since he took her off my hands, I now consider him to be my best friend.)
                                              Dekoda,

                                              Love It......

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                                                #24
                                                Dekoda,

                                                Don't be so sure about that "men like us will never meet beautiful women..."
                                                I mean, the guy who married Sharon Stone is nothing special with respect to looks. Money yes, looks no.
                                                I have a friend who has very little money and who is in his 40's and looks very much like Woody Allen, although not as attractive. Hideous Bronx accent, too. You should see his ex. Gorgeous. You should see his current girl. Outstanding. In his case, it's personality. Keeps 'em laughing.

                                                So, brush up on your joke-telling, get in touch with your feminine side, and learn to recite Shakespeare sonnets. It probably won't help with girls, but you'll be a better person for it, trust me.

                                                BTW, I know *exactly* what you mean about "fantasy is what keeps us from leaving our wives". If all I had was my wife, without the ability to fantasize about others, then screw it, I'm outa there.

                                                (Shit, don't tell her I said that!)

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