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    Nudity Only Video Ideas...

    I was told to come over and give My ideas...

    I have lots and Lots...

    but was wondering why abby went to the dildo as an idea??

    so I am making my own thread for everone to post some....

    this is for models that are for nudity only nothing else...

    what fun would you like to see on screen...

    here is my list.

    1. Changing Clothes, and modeling undies, bras, etc, and letting us see them change.

    2. outside shoots, with flashing nudity, that would be Fun and exciting, to see a pretty girl in a semi public setting, and get a glimpse of her breast.

    3. Bouncing, on bed, trampoline, she can be clothed, topless or nude...
    Or have her try and disrobe bouncing...

    4. I understand that models feel uncomfortable in a Video setting. This is not new, many people think they are comfortable with their bodies and find out they really arn't when it comes to a video setting. So My next idea is a slumber party, several models, having fun playing and getting naked, playing games, getting comfortable around each other nude or topless, I think the girl that thinks she can be confortable nude, and can't can maybe be confortable topless, with a thong, if she is confortable being with another nude model in a slumber party setting...

    5. maybe you can sit down with a model and ask her. what do you want to do? and make a Plan. if she is busy thinking of the next thing she has to do, then maybe she won't have time to freeze up, top priority, laugh and have a Fun time.

    6. give the model a cheap camcorder and have her film too.
    you won't use the film oher than to give the model a copy, but sometimes a person will feel more at ease if she is also behind a camera, instead of just being in front of it...

    7. Food, we haven't covered any Food. you can have something in your shoot that is food. Americans love combining dessert food and nude women. icecream, whip cream, etc.



    Ok this is a start and the top seven that just came off the top of my head...

    later

    Bubba

    #2
    Apart from a few more models in Thongs (which are bloody sexy!), I think all of your ideas are well covered on the site!!! Suggest you do some surfing!

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      #3
      bubbatech, thanks some good ideas there, but as yachtie suggested, most of them have been done.

      And there are some practical problems... you can only have video of someone bouncing on a bed / trampoline so for so long, then it becomes boring. In fact, we copped a lot of critticism for this when we did a spate of it 1.5 years ago or so.

      Public nudity stuff is something we need to explore more, definitely.

      Changing clothes we have a lot of already, but we sure can have more. Agree.

      Currently, we are not lacking in ideas for softcore (T1) GG shoots, but we do need T2 ideas. These are extremely tricky.

      We pretty much always ask the models what they want to do, and their response is "inenuh". They rely on us to come up with ideas.

      We have done some food stuff (as a T1GG), and it was not very popular. I don't like it much myself, either...

      Thanks for offering ideas, don't mean to be too down on them, but they need to be practical. Keep 'em coming!

      a

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        #4
        Originally posted by Abby
        Currently, we are not lacking in ideas for softcore (T1) GG shoots, but we do need T2 ideas. These are extremely tricky.
        I tend to look at the T2 and T3 g/g videos as if I were a voyeur. I don't need a great setup to watch two girls kissing each other, undressing and having sex. I really don't think T2 and above needs any type of scenario outside of a fluffy couch and lots of sunlight, like in the Stephanie and Miranda set. After all, when people have sex, it's not typically set up with any great degree of complication. They're horny, and they want to get some action!

        I'm perfectly happy with the T2 g/g sets as they are. Any extra effort you put into them would be a bonus for me.

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          #5
          thanks vmsmith. I tend to agree.

          All we need to do now is convince VidDude!

          a

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            #6
            Originally posted by Abby
            All we need to do now is convince VidDude!
            But I like stories!

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              #7
              Done, sure but everything has been done sometime. there has not been anything truely new on video sex for years and years.

              It's all been "DONE" But not done by all the women out there. wile we do want to see the act, our focus is primarily the Girl and How her body is different.

              Food, not elaborate food, but garnishes, like whip cream and cherrys, and maybe the edible underwear for gg and bg scenes.

              trampoline, I know that too much is bad, but what I think about is a joining of different ideas. girl in clothes, bounce 10-12 times, slowly turn and bounce. then gets off strips, redresses and bounces again, for several outfits, then finishes the last bounce set nude.

              Summertime, the swimming naked vid. in the pool.

              A girl pleasuring herself with a Jacuzzi tub Jet, with or without bubbles.

              what kind of stories does Vid Dude Like??

              I was thinking of a story where a woman goes into a strange house relaxes and gets comfortable on a couch and close her eyes, and then streaches and starts exploring and stripping, ending in bedroom or closet where she tries on a BUNCH of cothes and underwear, once you get tired of that end with a closeup of her face and widen out to her back clothed on the couch she streaches and sighs and waves at the camera.


              the Girl walking Home, and getting caught in a rainstorm...
              when she gets home soaked, to slowly strip, shower, dry off, dry her hair nude and dress, then seddle down on the couch with her blanket.

              you know every day occurances that a girl or women might accually do, but we are there to watch.

              set the situation, and then let the girl follow the main plot, but throw anything in that she wants to personalize it.

              later

              Bubba

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                #8
                How about a day at the races? Nice frocks and lots of colour. Very public. A bit of a tease for the nudity when the model(s) get back to the hotel to change into going out wear. A bit of effort, but no doubt Abby could find an entertaining way to do it.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bubbatech
                  Summertime, the swimming naked vid. in the pool.
                  That's something I don't think I've seen on this site. (please direct me if I am wrong).

                  It would be great to see.

                  Tank
                  "The wall was high and I fell asleep"

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                    #10
                    Fiona does some indoor swimming in deviations...

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                      #11
                      You'd be looking for Fiona and Jennifer J.

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                        #12
                        Muggins & Vid Dude,

                        Thanks for the pointers. I had seen Fiona's set but had forgotten. I had not however watched JJ's vids, and what a delight. And a cameo from Jamie to boot. FanBLOODYtastic!!!

                        There are just tooooo many girls on this sight.

                        Tank
                        "The wall was high and I fell asleep"

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bubbatech
                          Summertime, the swimming naked vid. in the pool.
                          I have been wanting to do a pool shoot for so damn long. Fiona's was ok, but there were no power points near this pool, so I had to use natural light, and there was not enough. Also upped the ISO, which made the grainy.

                          I am still waiting for a pool to become available for my use. one day, it'll happen. I just hope I have an underwater housing at the same time!

                          a

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Abby
                            I just hope I have an underwater housing at the same time!
                            Now that would be cool!!!!!! You are not able to hire one are you? That could be more economical than buying one (and if it means we get this faster all the better).

                            Tank
                            "The wall was high and I fell asleep"

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                              #15
                              underwater housings cost around $9000US for a good one. No one here in oz hires them, best as I can tell, so I might buy one and sell it second hand, for use on shoots this summer (which are looking like having a lot of water in and around them). Or, buy one second hand myself, if I can find one...

                              a

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                                #16
                                I guess while I'm here, I may as well contribute!

                                By "stories", Vid Dude, do you necessarily mean "acting"? I don't know how much to add without this becoming too "fantasy", but keeping in mind my current Olympic fetish:

                                How about models competing with each other in some way? I guess this was done in the Allanah/Elise basketball shoot/vid, but as this happened after my sub, I don't know how "heated" their competition was. Might not be as easy to cast, either, as you'd need to have some sporty models to pull it off and not just giggle through it half-heartedly.

                                I've seen some other vids on bondage sites that have had girls racing each other, and it's very sexy when they're serious about competing (even when the event itself is completely ridiculous - as most bondage sites are). There's something very sexy about a chick not wanting to lose.

                                This is probably the basis for my Olympic crushes-of-the-moment. I mean, the women I'm enamored of now wouldn't be half as attractive to me if they weren't great at their sports. For example, there are many more traditionally beautiful women on the US indoor volleyball team, but Logan Tom is sexiest because she's such a fucking good player. You can see the fire in her eyes. She's - dare I say it - spunky.

                                What happened to the Susie playing netball concept? That would've been HOT. Susie had that look of a tiger too.

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                                  #17
                                  Logan Tom, Sydney Olympic MVP, all 6'1" of her.
                                  Attached Files

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                                    #18
                                    This is in response to the assertion that everything has already been done in a video. This suggestion isn't necessarily the most practical, but it's not unfeasable. And, at least according to Google, if it's been done at all it's not been done very often.

                                    I'm still unclear on the difference between tier 1 and tier 2, but how about playing strip jump-rope?

                                    While Googling I did find a couple of links to nude or topless rope jumping, for instance
                                    "http://www.hammondgallery.co.uk/view_pic.php3?aid=120&pid=1820"
                                    and a website called HouseOnBareMountain refers to a video from the 1960's called "Bigger, Better Bodies" that has it
                                    "http://www.midnightowlvideo.com/1960sT&A/KissMeQuickHouseOnBareIsland/HouseOnBareMountain.htm"

                                    But nobody, as far as I know, has ever shot someone stripping *while* jumping rope.

                                    I happen to know it's not that hard to take your pants off while hopping rhythmically (don't ask how.)

                                    At least here in the States most kids (girls anyway) get pretty good at jumping rope, and, like riding a bike, it's pretty easy to pick up as an adult.

                                    The models would have to be in fairly good shape. (You probably wouldn't want to make the pitch to a smoker.) But if you had more than one model they could trade off when someone missed a skip.

                                    *Just* an idea, Abby, not an actual request. Beats just hopping around.

                                    figleaf

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                                      #19
                                      We've done this in the Girls Night Out video, though most of it was trimmed back.

                                      Are you the same Talking Figleaf we've always known, or are you a new guy?

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Vid Dude
                                        We've done this in the Girls Night Out video, though most of it was trimmed back.
                                        Yeah, it's running for about 5 minutes and it's fun.
                                        There are stills of this shoot in backstage 15, images 1559 - 1590.

                                        In my eyes 5 minutes is just ok, a longer sequence would be boring very quick.

                                        Lxm

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                                          #21
                                          some fast ideas.......(I'm new here.....you can tell me to get lost if these seem bad.....or ask for more if you like these......I've got a million of 'em).

                                          Washing a car.....1 or multiple girls......guess where this can go with a hose......with multiple girls or Male/Female......it can start out working together.....turn into a water fight and well.....you get the idea......

                                          Dares.....how about stripping in an elevator......stop the elevator on each floor and toss out an article of clothing......change the camera angle so that it appears that it is being caught by hidden camera instead of planned camera........then have the lass proceed from the elevator down a hall.......most girls I've met get wet doing this dare and if there isn't someone to take care of them......THEY WILL DO IT THEMSELVES.......but have the girl appear UNAWARE of the camera........

                                          StripGames.......like the slumber party idea......ok.....so it is staged......let them ACT a little......sometimes that gets rid of the nerves and makes for a better shoot anyway.

                                          Accidental Nudity......loved the Ana video when the sash just dropped away. Do it with ALL of the clothing a model is wearing......tie strings that come untied....buttons that pop off.....or just loose fitting clothes that are a little TOO LOOSE.

                                          These are a few......I have some others that would make for good video shoots (but would end up being 2 or 3 or more of your downloads.......nice long thread.....could keep 'em coming back for more......

                                          Rhino (Only The Strong Survive)

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                                            #22
                                            Doh!

                                            Originally posted by Vid Dude
                                            We've done this in the Girls Night Out video, though most of it was trimmed back.

                                            Are you the same Talking Figleaf we've always known, or are you a new guy?
                                            Yep, it's me. Hi VD!

                                            And yep, there's the jump rope. Dang! :-)

                                            I agree with luxman, by the way, that more than five minutes would be enough.

                                            ---

                                            By the way, I appreciate how hard it is to come up with "new" ideas for video shoots with amateur, generally inexperienced models.

                                            First of all, most *really* new things aren't going to be interesting for much more than five minutes, and generally the concept will be stale after the third or fourth shoot anyway.

                                            For instance at one point we all seemed starved to see models just sitting naked and talking -- something you don't usually see in porn. But then that got old and we started grousing about it. Another time it was jumping on beds, or rolling over and over, or undressing in a bath tub, real lesbian couples, smearing each other with food, or whatever. Every one of those ideas is great, until we get a steady diet of it and then we want more.

                                            Another problem with non-professional models is that, well, the stuff they're willing to do might be old hat to us but it's new as hell to them. It's kind of a stretch to ask them to skip right past the basics do insertions with Brussels sprouts on a trapeze. (No, I haven't Googled to see if anyone's done that. Someone probably has. But I'll be it wasn't her first time on video.)

                                            So realistically what we've gotten over the last four years or so is probably pretty much the state of the art for the models we ask Abby to find. A state of the art, I might add, that's been pretty nice.

                                            ---

                                            So for me the holy grail isn't so much the newest possible new thing (anymore, anyway.) It's just seeing what the models as individuals are willing and able to do and enjoying that as long as they seem to be enjoying it.

                                            ---

                                            Finally, outside of AW, a few of the nicest video scenarios I've seen involved

                                            1) Just a long, long vouyer-cam-style shot of a couple of women sunning on a beach. Hardly any action at all, just rolling over when one side got too hot, fiddling with their suits, re-tying their tops, grabbing a drink of water. The nice thing wasn't how explicit it was (not very) but the anticipation of waiting for them to make any moves at all, combined with the chance to really drink them in.

                                            2) A porn movie where, interspersed with a bunch of conventional porn sex, they had the various actresses and some strippers working with a professional showgirl trainer and coreographer. Over the course of the movie the guy showed them the difference between real erotic dancing and the cliche pole-dancing stuff they started out doing. By towards the end the actresses, who started out clearly knowing only how to be explicit, were learning how to also be *sexy* as well. (The conventional parts were easy to fast forward through. The classes, though less explicit, were hot. I didn't have to fast forward those.)

                                            3) A porn clip where the model, pretty much a college student who'd initially agreed to shooting straightforward sex with a guy, figured out how much extra she could get if she went further than she'd originally agreed. As with AW it's standard interview practice to sort of check off what a model will or won't do. At one point she disappears into the bathroom. After too long the director, clearly real-life concerned about the schedule, knocks and asks what's going on. She calls out that she's in the tub shaving her pubic hair. By the end, pretty clearly in charge by this point, she asks how much extra she'd get for adding another guy and then drags the not-terribly-well-prepared, Elvaar-like director into the scene. (I'm not proposing anyone drag Elvaar into a scene! What was nice about the clip was the non-scripted and unexpected role-reversal the model started calling the shots.)

                                            The common link in these three videos, as it relates to AW videos, is that the goal shouldn't be to do something new every time. It's to be willing to settle for what the models are willing to do (lie on a beach? fine); to be willing to give them opportunities do do something they haven't done before (real lessons in the 2nd video, shower together or hang out all day on a boat in AW) and take advantage of situations when the model comes up with something unexpected (taking charge, as in the 3rd video, above, or AW's Lily deciding to masturbate for real back in 2001.)

                                            You can't force it. With amateurs I'm not even sure you can facilitate it. You just have to be ready for it, and appreciate it when you get it. And accept the fact that you're not going to get it every time.

                                            figleaf

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Talking Figleaf
                                              You can't force it. With amateurs I'm not even sure you can facilitate it. You just have to be ready for it, and appreciate it when you get it. And accept the fact that you're not going to get it every time.

                                              figleaf
                                              A bit like real life, eh?

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                                                #24
                                                can u please release some of the clips of Jamie playing with jump rope

                                                sorry to hear this got cut back on dvd

                                                why don't mor girls like to have fun like this

                                                fun stuff

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by elfie
                                                  can u please release some of the clips of Jamie playing with jump rope
                                                  sorry to hear this got cut back on dvd
                                                  elfie,

                                                  Jamie didn't appear in the jump rope sequence. The 3 girls were Susie, Danny & Melissa. About the "cut back", I'd rather call it an edit.

                                                  As I wrote above, I can assure you that the remaining 5 minutes playtime is far enough. More would be boring, really.

                                                  Lxm

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Talking Figleaf
                                                    Yep, it's me. Hi VD!
                                                    I have merged your past username with your current one, so you have a proper postcount etc.

                                                    I always like to do creative things with the videos, and the members seem to like them too, but the difficulties mount up with each idea, most often the model's motivations. They aren't actresses, and they may not be in the right zone at the right time, situations like that can make things frustrating for us, and it puts us off doing the elaborate ideas sometimes. So we tend to stick with mostly domestic locations and the situations to go with them. I personally find those to be rather unlikely and unrealistic, even dull, but maybe that's not the point, maybe all we need to do is have them nude and talking and doing stuff, and believability isn't important.

                                                    Time is also a factor. We pay the model per hour, so we can't use up a day hoping to get magic from an otherwise mundane idea. It has to happen right then and there when the camera is going for the hour we have with them. You can't manufacture the magic, you can't force it, you can't switch it on and off. So what's the best way to achieve it?

                                                    Luck. For every five videos that are sort of ordinary, there'll be one that has something special in it. And I think they're absolutely worth the wait. You just have to slog through the others to get to them.

                                                    We have a few specific ideas for videos that needs the ideal model to pull them off, or sometimes it needs the weather, the timing, the whole day, or the right crew who is alert and motivated - that combination is what makes the magic happen, and it's also what makes it so hard to coordinate.

                                                    The best answer, therefore, is to keep on doing what we do the way we do it, and when we feel it's time, make some changes so that we're fresh and new again. Now that Summer is approaching and the weather is good, a few of my quiet plans will find an opportunity to be utilised. We also have a much wider model base to choose from now. So look out for some new ideas sneaking through.

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Vid Dude
                                                      I have merged your past username with your current one, so you have a proper postcount etc.
                                                      Thanks VD!

                                                      Originally posted by Vid Dude
                                                      I always like to do creative things with the videos, and the members seem to like them too, but the difficulties mount up with each idea, most often the model's motivations. They aren't actresses, and they may not be in the right zone at the right time... I personally find those to be rather unlikely and unrealistic, even dull, but maybe that's not the point, maybe all we need to do is have them nude and talking and doing stuff, and believability isn't important. ... etc.
                                                      Yup. Thinking about my own next-door neighbors over the years it's hard to imagine very many of them shifting straight from "should I undress in front of a bunch of strangers with cameras at all" to "and while I'm at it why don't I just let them tie me to a Symbian during an eclipse, too?"

                                                      Like you say, they're not actresses. And presumably if we just wanted acting we'd be going somewhere else anyway.

                                                      Coincidentally or not, one of the sexiest things I've seen in a video was Lisa M's recent update (lisa_mvid3.mpg) where she casually but thoroughly strokes her breasts during the inventory of her body parts. Wowzie! She wasn't thinking about being sexy. In fact she does it while saying she thinks most guys would probably like them better if they were bigger! (Whether that's even true is completely beside the point. What she was *doing* was eighteen times cooler than anything Chesty Canyon might ever have done while trying to act.)

                                                      On the one hand it might not be the most creative thing you've ever thought of shooting, but on the other hand I find I go back and watch clips like Lisa M's a dozen times for every time I watch Petra tackling light bulbs. That doesn't mean don't do more shoots with models like Petra, she was wild, sexy, very attractive, and creative. But in the mean time figure out how to get everyday models like Lisa M to do what she did too. It might be boring to shoot, but it can be riveting to watch.

                                                      figleaf

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                                                        #28
                                                        Speaking of old new ideas...

                                                        Now that summer's coming (in your hemisphere anyway) see if anyone wants to play on monkey bars / jungle gyms / playsets or whatever you call the sort of playground equipment with the ladders and overhead bars.

                                                        I'm sure it's been done. In fact I'm pretty sure you've done it. And I'm sure it's a nuisance finding playgrounds sheltered enough not to draw too much attention. But a while back I saw some college-age women goofing around on a play set in a nearby park. They were fully dressed and it was still fun to watch.

                                                        Just because I might have seen it before doesn't mean I'd object to seeing it again.

                                                        figleaf

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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Talking Figleaf
                                                          Thanks VD!

                                                          Coincidentally or not, one of the sexiest things I've seen in a video was Lisa M's recent update (lisa_mvid3.mpg) where she casually but thoroughly strokes her breasts during the inventory of her body parts. Wowzie! She wasn't thinking about being sexy. In fact she does it while saying she thinks most guys would probably like them better if they were bigger! (Whether that's even true is completely beside the point. What she was *doing* was eighteen times cooler than anything Chesty Canyon might ever have done while trying to act.)

                                                          figleaf
                                                          I remember when I shot that with Lisa. I came away thinking that was the most sexist thing I have seen in a long time. There is just somthing about her which everyway she moves she's just ooze's sexyness. I think it's because she is just so comfortable with who she is and confident in herself and every thing she says and does. THAT is what's sexy.

                                                          Alot of our models are not confident that they are sexy and they are still trying to figure out what their body is and how it works. Its hard when a model comes to me saying they don't think we'll want them because they have small boobs or they are not stick thin and all this other crap. I just feel like shaking them and say "you are damn sexy just the way you are. Repet after me I'm am spunky"

                                                          One good think about AW is that we can make people who are shy about them selves or lack in confidence with there body realise they are sexy just the way they are with out make up and high heels and boob jobs. I like that.

                                                          Ummm Ok so back to videos It's quite hard to do. It's hard to come up with a new idea when you are shooting 3 models in a day and 1 idea can take 2min to do if done not well. and 20 mins if it is done well and that still leaves another 40 min to do other stuff. Even so I still like doing them because I'm good at getting the model to relax and have a bit of fun and every now and then you get something brillent.

                                                          Jamie

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Jamie
                                                            I remember when I shot that with Lisa. I came away thinking that was the most sexist thing I have seen in a long time. There is just somthing about her which everyway she moves she's just ooze's sexyness. I think it's because she is just so comfortable with who she is and confident in herself and every thing she says and does. THAT is what's sexy.
                                                            I reckon it's cos she's older (at least, has a lot to do with it). Catch 22 for this site... :/

                                                            a

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