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    I was thinking about variations on the content of porn because of locality. Local laws and local customs can be quite an influence on how it is represented.

    I would love to hear from members all over the world on variations in local porn. What is allowed and what is not.

    For example, in the US bare breasts on TV or newpapers or magazines are strictly taboo, but in Germany they were not. In the US for a very long time pictures of peeing (in adult magazines. It was NEVER allowed to even be suggested on TV) were strictly forbidden, but that taboo sort of faded but still not common.

    In Japan, I see pictures where the pubic hair is blurred. Is this still a requirement? The model could be peeing, but you just weren't allowed to see her pubic hair?

    Other's experiences and thoughts please!

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    Originally posted by BigSpud View Post
    I was thinking about variations on the content of porn because of locality. Local laws and local customs can be quite an influence on how it is represented.

    I would love to hear from members all over the world on variations in local porn. What is allowed and what is not.

    For example, in the US bare breasts on TV or newpapers or magazines are strictly taboo, but in Germany they were not. In the US for a very long time pictures of peeing (in adult magazines. It was NEVER allowed to even be suggested on TV) were strictly forbidden, but that taboo sort of faded but still not common.

    In Japan, I see pictures where the pubic hair is blurred. Is this still a requirement? The model could be peeing, but you just weren't allowed to see her pubic hair?

    Other's experiences and thoughts please!
    Heh.. here in the Netherlands we don't have much of a specific porn-laws, except regarding to age of course. All the other stuff is handled via regular law (i.e. pee-ing on someone is allowed if that someone else agreed to it ). I suppose that it's somewhat of a double-edged sword though, 'cos there are a number of 'acts' I don't care to see really.. then again nobody forces me to look

    In Japan pixelation of genetalia (not the pubic hair, that's a side-effect) is still mandatory yes. It has very little really purpose since by now everybody knows what is what ;-) The newer digital mosaic-ing of the bigger firms also allows them to show stuff right up to the legal limit. Old style mosaic was just this large roundish lens thingie, very annoying. Today's movies are quite watchable, cute japanese girls too!

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      #3
      Here in Canada, nudity and coarse language is allowed after a certain hour, usually 9pm and usually a warning is given prior to the beginning of the show and sometimes after each commercial break. This is true of any local television station, not just cable stuff like movie channels. So it's nice to watch a movie on a local station and see nothing cut out, either nudity or language. This is quite the contrast to a very strict U.S.

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        #4
        Frans is right about the limits (and limitations) of Japanese porn. With videos, there is quite a large area that needs to be pixilated, especially if there is movement involved. But as Frans said, you know what's what so you really aren't missing that much

        The girls for the most part are very cute but given that Japan is still a highly patriarchal society, any straight b/g hardcore porn was something I found unpalatable after a few minutes. I won't go into details but lets just say they didn't value the opinions of the models, or their feelings very much. Often it just seemed downright degrading to women.

        But getting back to the cute stuff, if you are looking for girls in school uniforms, Japan is the place to be. It's a huge fetish and many magazines reflect that. There is also a big market for Photo Art books in Japan, with plenty of photo studies of very young girls (mostly non-nude stuff, legal but straddling a very thin line). Plenty of Japanese photographers travel to Russia to find models and I can't blame them (plenty of Russian women find there way to Japan too, to work in hostess bars or the like)

        Then you have the Idols, what we would think of as a supermodel; well known, sexy -- someone everyone wants to see nude but rarely does. If you want examples of some of what I'm talking about, the best source that i have found on the web is jlist.com -- it's expensive but you can see lots of samples of photobooks, mags, DVD's and hentai games; not to mention, plenty of non-porn stuff like Pocky and Hello Kitty
        Last edited by matchless; 1 January 2007, 04:50 PM.

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          #5
          I knew British TV allowed nudity, but not Canadian. I guess there are advantages to living near the Canadian border. Looking back, I am amazed that NYPD Blue got away with its ass-flashes on broadcast television.

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            #6
            Originally posted by BigSpud View Post
            For example, in the US bare breasts on TV or newpapers or magazines are strictly taboo, but in Germany they were not.
            Here in Europe the people were quite amused about the sanctimonious consternation of the american public when nipplegate occured. In Austria (no kangaroos!) advertisments for shoes are more explicit then nipplegate could ever be (outdoor bill, TV-Spot).

            Greetings from Vienna,
            DateJust

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              #7
              Originally posted by Datejust View Post
              Here in Europe the people were quite amused about the sanctimonious consternation of the american public when nipplegate occured. In Austria (no kangaroos!) advertisments for shoes are more explicit then nipplegate could ever be (outdoor bill, TV-Spot).

              Greetings from Vienna,
              DateJust
              Hallo DJ,

              Ich danke Ihnen. Sehr interessant.

              Welcome to the boards and thanks for sharing the shoe commercial. I am not sure that it would make me run out and buy a pair of Humanic shoes.

              I am amazed that in the US it is not OK to show a bare nipple, but it is OK to show bloody bodies and people getting hacked and shot and stabbed.

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                #8
                Originally posted by BigSpud View Post
                I am amazed that in the US it is not OK to show a bare nipple, but it is OK to show bloody bodies and people getting hacked and shot and stabbed.
                That's one of the schizophrenic mysteries I couldn't understand either. Thanks to our Austrian friend for the vid. (Servus nach Wien)

                doinel

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                  #9
                  Another irony is that millions of babies are exposed to women's nipples several times a day and it is considered healthy. Just goes to show who is really innocent in our society, eh? Certainly not the many politicians who have outlawed breastfeeding in public!
                  Last edited by artlover; 5 January 2007, 10:26 PM. Reason: sharpening my point

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                    #10
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                    Originally posted by artlover View Post
                    Another irony is that millions of babies are exposed to women's nipples several times a day and it is considered healthy. Just goes to show who is really innocent in our society, eh? Certainly not the many politicians who have outlawed breastfeeding in public!
                    Not millions of US babies. Breastfeeding here is still a rarity here I think. Certainly not accepted in Public!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigSpud View Post
                      Not millions of US babies. Breastfeeding here is still a rarity here I think. Certainly not accepted in Public!
                      To be fair I have to say that even though it is accepted over here, mothers are still expected to be somewhat discreet about it. Breastfeeding is being less done in more and more countries these days, seems parents nowadays have less time for such things?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by fransAW View Post
                        To be fair I have to say that even though it is accepted over here, mothers are still expected to be somewhat discreet about it. Breastfeeding is being less done in more and more countries these days, seems parents nowadays have less time for such things?
                        Or could it be the food-industries marketing that is telling the customers/parents/mothers that industry-baby-food would be better for the babies than the natural way of nursing?
                        But i thing the discussion slides off-topic.

                        Greetings from Vienna,
                        Datejust.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Datejust View Post
                          Or could it be the food-industries marketing that is telling the customers/parents/mothers that industry-baby-food would be better for the babies than the natural way of nursing?
                          I am sure that is part of it.
                          Originally posted by Datejust View Post
                          But i thing the discussion slides off-topic.

                          Greetings from Vienna,
                          Datejust.
                          This is AW nothing unusual about that.

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                            #14
                            I remember staying in Amsterdam and watching hardcore porn in the hotel room on local TV.
                            The same thing in Germany. They had the best porn. It was soft-core; but it was entertaining. Some of it was like an explicit version of the Benny Hill show. Only straight porn I fully enjoy watching. It was like every Friday and Saturday night there would be some movies. I think I saw some porn on TV in another country too.

                            What can I say about America and nudity. We were colonized by Puritans. Go figure.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by smjack View Post
                              I remember staying in Amsterdam and watching hardcore porn in the hotel room on local TV.
                              The same thing in Germany. They had the best porn. It was soft-core; but it was entertaining. Some of it was like an explicit version of the Benny Hill show. Only straight porn I fully enjoy watching. It was like every Friday and Saturday night there would be some movies.
                              Prolly the Playboy Channel showing Viv Thomas movies (R-rated of course;-). I remember it amused me to no end that people would actually pay USD $12 per hour to watch those channels ;-) But yeah those movies shot for channels (Adult Channel or PB both commision series) tend to have more story, can be nice.

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                                #16
                                Local talent reins supreme

                                hello. Id like to put in my 2 cents worth with my experiences within MELBOURNE.
                                Up untill recently i was relying on free internet porn and dvd from shops. I would spend an enormous amount of time sifting through the thosands of shop dvds in search of 'girl only' or girl/girl. This was SO hard! A few years ago it was fairly ok with some names one could find & trust (siniplex,digitalsin etc) but recently ITS got REALLY bad. Now the 'market' is FULL of dodgy, bad porn.Thousands of dvds with 95% having dicks in them. Even the girl only ones are hit and miss. It was always a bit gross going into these places too, not so 'erotic', most having the classic weirdo porn shop vibe. I would always be terrified of being spotted coming out of one.
                                Triple x are the easiest places for finding what you want , having a special 'Masterbation' and 'Lesbian' section, but its a short shelf and your paying 50 buks for a decent one. ( I always found the term 'Lesbian' a bit wrong as they WERNT lesbians at all, Lesbianism is a whole different thing, a culture, not some dogdy way of saying girl/girl)anyway...
                                then i found AW, jeez what a breath of fresh air! local talent ! IM so Proud ! Melbourne is COOL!
                                AW is another fine example of creative abundance nurturing this sexy and artfull city.
                                Thankyou.

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                                  #17
                                  oops, not quite on topic..MY experience with whats available not legality and whatnot. I was just too eager to express myself.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by d.j.mounsey View Post
                                    oops, not quite on topic..MY experience with whats available not legality and whatnot. I was just too eager to express myself.
                                    No sweat. Welcome to the boards and you do have an interesting perspective. Reading it did not send up "OffTopic" flags to me.

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                                      #19
                                      I'm curious about the porn restrictions in other countries, what do they
                                      do to prevent young kids from seeing it, because I personally feel they
                                      shouldn't be able to view it at a certain age. Otherwise good porn is
                                      girl/girl action, because to me watching a guy is a turn off, but finding
                                      good girl/girl action where there is real interaction and they aren't faking it.
                                      I've seen to many sites where it is just bleh, not intensity or passion.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by fransAW View Post
                                        Prolly the Playboy Channel showing Viv Thomas movies (R-rated of course;-).
                                        From smjack's description I suspect he's more likely to be talking about 70's German softcore like the Schulmädchen-Report movies that certainly were a feature on mainstream German satellite/cable channels like RTL & Sat1 on weekend evenings a 10 years or so ago (not sure if they get regular plays still as I can't access those channels anymore). They often had slapstick comedy a la Benny Hill like smjack mentions. They also often had very cute natural girls (this is in the days before silicone and Brazilian waxes!). Groovy loungecore music too
                                        Originally posted by timoclaus
                                        I'm curious about the porn restrictions in other countries, what do they do to prevent young kids from seeing it
                                        Put it on a high shelf so they can't reach it . (Actually in some European countries even this is not done).

                                        In the UK, print material is only really restricted by the obscenity laws (interpreted reasonably liberally nowadays) and the willingness of individual traders to control sales to minors. Video material, on the other hand, must be certified by the BBFC (this applies to all videos, not just porn) and videos that are certified as "R18" (broadly speaking hardcore porn) can only be sold in licensed premises. Videos that are certified as "18" (not just softcore porn, but the more horrific horror films, mainstream movies with a lot of sexual content, movies with disturbing subject-matter) can, however, be sold in any shop to over 18s.

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pjay View Post
                                          In the UK, print material is only really restricted by the obscenity laws (interpreted reasonably liberally nowadays) and the willingness of individual traders to control sales to minors. Video material, on the other hand, must be certified by the BBFC (this applies to all videos, not just porn) and videos that are certified as "R18" (broadly speaking hardcore porn) can only be sold in licensed premises. Videos that are certified as "18" (not just softcore porn, but the more horrific horror films, mainstream movies with a lot of sexual content, movies with disturbing subject-matter) can, however, be sold in any shop to over 18s.
                                          Even more weird; UK citizens are free to buy any unrated movie from abroad. The certification from the BBFC is only needed/required if you want to sell your movies on/from within the UK itself. The censoring has become less strict, that's true. It used to be truly R-rated only (if you want even more weirdness, R-rated tend to be differently judged depending if there is a nude male vs. nude female on screen ;-).

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by fransAW View Post
                                            Even more weird; UK citizens are free to buy any unrated movie from abroad. The certification from the BBFC is only needed/required if you want to sell your movies on/from within the UK itself.
                                            That's not that weird really. UK laws on selling videos can't apply to sellers in other countries and the only laws that apply to ownership as opposed to distribution are those to do with "child porn" or anything where the video makes you in effect an accessory to a crime. The actual issue is about what customs will accept as obscene or non-obscene for import purposes; the standard they allegedly use is "would this vid get a BBFC certificate?". So if you import an unrated video from abroad and it features, say, scat, then you can expect for it to be confiscated if the customs check it. However, you can still legally own said vid if you can get it into the country (IANAL, which should always be added to all non-professional comments on the law!)
                                            Originally posted by fransAW
                                            The censoring has become less strict, that's true. It used to be truly R-rated only (if you want even more weirdness, R-rated tend to be differently judged depending if there is a nude male vs. nude female on screen ;-).
                                            Hmm, avoid the use of "R-rated" when referring to the UK. A UK 18 certificate is much more liberal than a US R-rating and has been since at least the late 1980s. Films rated R in the US are often 15 certs in the UK. Also, whilst the MPAA (US motion picture rating board) is indeed terrified of the sight of a penis, this is not true of the BBFC.

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                                              #23
                                              UK laws from import vs. customs vs. bbfc has always seemed strange to me. But their views of what's allowed on cable channels are becoming more relaxed in that g/g movies can be shown virtually unedited. Which is a good thing ;-) (well unless you look lotsa close-ups )

                                              Back around 1980 content shown on say Adult Channel or Playboy UK was more softcore than it is today. I did mean to refer to the 'USA R-rating' as something most people will recognize. UK's 18 rating is indeed more permissive

                                              Overall I'm fairly happy to be living 'abroad' so to speak

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