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    Here is a proposal for a new theme. Do any models have a close and open and honest relationship with her mother? How about a shoot with daughter and mother? Nothing kinky, but just an interview format. Now I know AW prefers younger women, but half of the attraction would be the young one. It could be an interview with mother and daughter talking about life and sex and any other topic. Of course, the clothes would need to eventually come off. (I was watching such a vid of an English pair on holiday at a nudist beach at Cabopino on the Costa del Sol. Very hot.) What do you members think? Wouldn't it be fun to see where our lovely and alluring and desirable models come from? Models: do any of you have such an open-minded mother?

    #2
    Hmmm, that is an.... interesting idea there oceangrey.... don't know that it's something I'd particularly want to see, but maybe there are members here who would.... personally, that would definitely not be something my mum would go for (or me for that matter).... she knows I've done shoots for AW and although she is supportive, she doesn't entirely agree with it, so I'm pretty sure the chances of her wanting to do your idea are absolutely nil. I like your question though oceangrey, would be interested to know if there are models with open-minded mums like this....

    Luv Melinda

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      #3
      I'm pretty much open minded on some things but I would be fairly queasy about appearing nekkid with our daughters (when they are of age). A documentary at a holiday resort is one thing but appearing as wank fodder on a sex site is a totally different proposition.

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        #4
        So, Mrs. Roops, you don't think innocent au naturel pics of the family at a nudist beach would not be "wank fodder"?

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          #5
          Originally posted by oceangrey View Post
          So, Mrs. Roops, you don't think innocent au naturel pics of the family at a nudist beach would not be "wank fodder"?
          I like to think not, but I think we all know why the number of readers of "Health and Efficiency" far exceeds practising naturists.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Mrs Roops View Post
            I like to think not, but I think we all know why the number of readers of "Health and Efficiency" far exceeds practising naturists.
            Haha, I loved that magazine when I was a boy.
            My parents had a news & book shop, and I knew where the naturist magazines were stored.
            I still have some H&E magazines from mid 70's.

            Hmm, wank fodder? Yes!

            Lxm

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              #7
              Interesting idea Oceangrey has, and one I have to say has some appeal for me personally.

              Even asuming that the idea might fly on AW, what would be the likely uptake by models & their mothers? There was a thread a whlie back asking the models themselves if their friends & families were aware/thought of their work on AW and like sites. Quite a few said their friends & families didn't know, knew that they did this kind of work but they didn't approve or knew what they did and we're ok with it. How many models would have mothers in particular that would fit into the latter category and would be fine appearing with their daughters? How many daughters of mothers in that latter catagory would be comfortable appearing nude with their mothers?

              I'm not trying to focus on the negative here, truly, as I'd love a photoset and/or video of just what you suggest. Just thinking of the viabililty/likelihood as well as the appeal of the idea.

              "but appearing as wank fodder on a sex site is a totally different proposition"

              Quote of the month for me!

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                #8
                I think the problem here is the nature of the site.
                If this were a nudism or photography site I would imagine such a pictorial would be considered beautiful and artistic, a lovely celebration of the beauty of the generations.
                But this is a porn site. We know why people are looking at the pictures here. I wouldn't blame the models (or their mothers, (or Mrs Roops for that matter) for getting creeped out by the idea.

                Which is not to say that I haven't gotten off on nudist pictures that I've seen here and there.

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                  #9
                  I disagree. If this were a porn site nobody would be "creeped out" by a mother and daughter together. The beauty of AW is the casual naturalness of the models. Much of the site involves real girls talking candidly. Have you actually seen the perverse sites on the web? I simply thought it would be in keeping with AW to watch an interview of a girl-next-door with her mother, conversing openly about sex. (yes, I realize AW is about sex.) I am not suggesting incest, but something in keeping with the nature of AW. Frank talk about sexuality. I thought it would be fun to see mothers and daughters together laughing and being open. Openness is a quality here. If I have overstepped some bounds, I apologize.

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                    #10
                    I agree with you that what you're suggesting would be a beautiful thing.
                    I'm just thinking that it would be difficult to find a mother and daughter who would agree to do it.

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                      #11
                      I wouldn't like to see AW become the Wal Mart or Marks and Sparks of the erotic world.

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                        #12
                        wal mart

                        Ham,
                        I think you need to expand on that thought for this thick head. I don't know Marks & Sparks. As for Walmart, it is very controversial here in the States. It started out with a good business plan to bring retail diversity to rural communities. It transformed into the mega business that abhors unions, pays its "associates" barely a living wage, relies on the government to take care of health care costs, rapaciously puts out of business all of the local businesses, abandons large real estate to leave the local community in the lurch. Again, I don't see the connection with AW. Enlighten me.

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                          #13
                          I *almost* disagreed with you Ham, but I was about to write "it would work IF it was non-sexual."
                          But "sexual" is what AW.com is all about, so you're right. EITHER the mother/daughter thing would be sexual and thus creepily incestuous, OR non-sexual and outside of the AW.com mission.
                          AW mission or not I still think it would be beautiful if done properly.

                          P.S. Oceangrey, I think by invoking Walmart and Marks & Sparks Ham just means that he doesn't want AW.com to become a type of super department store where you can get every imaginable product. He wants them to stay with their specialty, and I agree with that.
                          Last edited by arsby; 12 June 2007, 05:15 PM.

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                            #14
                            But this is a porn site. We know why people are looking at the pictures here. I wouldn't blame the models (or their mothers, (or Mrs Roops for that matter) for getting creeped out by the idea.

                            porn site........ NO WAY!
                            Frankly i am here for the articles.... ummmm discourse....... ummm the forums, YEAH! THAT'S IT! the forums....

                            HA!

                            actually, i never think of AW as a porn site. porn to me implies all sorts of negative context, negative depictions and obvious fake smiles and/or enjoyment. i like AW content, the models and their naturalness (even when makeup is in play). most gals smile and those that do not are sets I do not revisit.

                            i am sure a girl with a face full of cum qualifies as porn, but a girl here wih girl cum is not so unappealing.......... this does not sound right (i can elaborate more clearly later)... but i am rapidly starting to get ill (physical side effects) not due to current discussion.
                            ciao

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by arsby View Post
                              P.S. Oceangrey, I think by invoking Walmart and Marks & Sparks Ham just means that he doesn't want AW.com to become a type of super department store where you can get every imaginable product. He wants them to stay with their specialty, and I agree with that.
                              Also Wal-Mart (Asda in the UK) and Marks & Spencer (to use its correct name) are two totally different retailers. Asda/Wal-Mart is a "pile it high, sell it cheap supermarket" whereas M&S is very much more upmarket with an emphasis on quality and whose origins go back to Victorian times. You won’t find chavs shopping at M&S!!!
                              Originally posted by browneyes View Post
                              actually, i never think of AW as a porn site. porn to me implies all sorts of negative context, negative depictions and obvious fake smiles and/or enjoyment. i like AW content, the models and their naturalness (even when makeup is in play). most gals smile and those that do not are sets I do not revisit.
                              I don’t know why people are reluctant to call aw.com "porn". Is it snobbery? Guilt? I think any site which produces imagery such as you find here is gonna be termed as a porn site. It’s definitely not "art". Perhaps the reluctance in calling aw.com "porn" is because there is a perception that "nice" people don’t view porn. Hmmm, I’m "nice", middle-class etc and I like to view porn from time to time. That does not make me a perv!!!!

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                                #16
                                ocean grey; Mistakenly thought 1 stop shopping would be understood. Also the above comments on wages, care etc. Used Erotic which indicates how I think of AW to seperate from the lurid c**p prevelant on the net. Was trying to be as short as possible to avoid my tendency to ramble. I occasionally shop at Wal Mart. And have in the past Marks. Most notably at Marks, a pair of platform shoes I wasn't allowed to wear while in Bounds Green, London but did after comming home. Btw M/S co op tea is great and store quality is tops.

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                                  #17
                                  The mother and daughter posing together is pretty standard porn fare I always thought. Local lass Debee Ashby:



                                  got her break, when she was 16, posing with her mum, then 37:



                                  in Rupert Murdoch's 'newspaper', The Sun, which no longer features models as young as 16 and now takes a very 'moralistic' stance on the issue.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mrs Roops View Post
                                    I like to think not, but I think we all know why the number of readers of "Health and Efficiency" far exceeds practising naturists.
                                    I thought Health and Efficiency was a magazine devoted to safety on the job.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Luxman View Post
                                      Haha, I loved that magazine when I was a boy.
                                      My parents had a news & book shop, and I knew where the naturist magazines were stored.
                                      I still have some H&E magazines from mid 70's.

                                      Hmm, wank fodder? Yes!

                                      Lxm
                                      H&E in the 50's and 60's it was all kids,in the 80's it was all glamour models,in the 2000's it's all men
                                      Last edited by chiefbrody; 9 July 2007, 11:24 AM.

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                                        #20
                                        There was a mother and daughter on deal or no deal a few months back,the papers revealed that they had posed naked together in a BIG BOOBS magazine and video .i found some piccys on the net (by accident of course ) and they really did,so it's rare but not impossible.
                                        But as for page 3,it's all men have left in the mainstream world now,but having said that it's so samey and bland , if they stopped it i wouldn't miss it

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                                          #21
                                          i have to jump in and say... those picture of debee and ann ashby are about as far away and completely and utterly opposite of anything that would appear on abbywinters as you could possibly get even if you paid a a really poor person a million dollars to find something. i would find it seriously out of place here. sisters, i could deal with. and there is that adorable twins shoot somewhere round here. but mother and daughter... just totally not with the spirit of things, imo.

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                                            #22
                                            BA had a mother-daughter conversation about sex, fully clothed and totally fascinating. About two years ago, I think.

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                                              #23
                                              yeah, that's totally different, and i wouldn't have an objection. any discussions about sex are interesting! and being able to see the views of a mother and daughter and how they differ would indeed be fascinating. it's the sexual part that weirds me out.

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by gabrielle View Post
                                                ...to see the views of a mother and daughter and how they differ would indeed be fascinating...
                                                I know, you're talking about the different views mother and daughter have on sexual matters.

                                                But in terms of visual views, every so often I see a mother and daughter who are both pretty and who look alike. And I wonder under their outfits do they look alike as well? Do they have the same shaped legs and thighs, the same basic shape and size of breast, where are the differences, where are the similarities.

                                                Not talking at all about sex between mother and daughter -- eeuw, if you showed me something like that I wouldn't believe they were related. I'm talking more in terms of nudism, like a nude portrait of mother and daughter.

                                                That being said, such images would belong in naturist magazines, not here at AW.com.

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