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    This has possibly been suggested before. Have you considered setting up another website exactly the same as this but with boys/men instead of girls? This will not be of any interest to most of your current customers, but if it's of the same quality as this site then you will have a new second stream of revenue from a different crowd. I expect gay sites pull less than straight sites, but making a significant dent in the huge straight market is an achievement anyway. Most of them are terrible and this is great target for the right company.

    #2
    Yes, there have been several suggestions in that direction (see here).

    Abby is not interested in this kind of stuff, but if you (re)think it's viable, why don't you do it yourself?

    Lxm

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      #3
      Ok, I'll get started with an ad in the newspaper.

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        #4
        Oh, I forgot, sorry:

        Welcome to AW and the boards!

        Enjoy your stay.

        Lxm

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          #5
          Originally posted by Luxman View Post
          Yes, there have been several suggestions in that direction (see here).
          Luxman, do you know if Abby owns the rights to the name BarrySummers.com? I wouldn't mind having a go at this idea myself... hehe... I wonder how easy/hard it would be to get guys to come model, something tells me they won't be as open minded as many of the 'straight' girls are that model here...

          hi rethink, make sure you tell us how you go, I'll support you all the way (if you promise to make me the first member of it )...

          Luv Melinda

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            #6
            Haha, too late....

            [ATTACH]6310[/ATTACH]

            Lxm

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              #7
              Originally posted by Melinda View Post
              Luxman, do you know if Abby owns the rights to the name BarrySummers.com? I wouldn't mind having a go at this idea myself... hehe... I wonder how easy/hard it would be to get guys to come model, something tells me they won't be as open minded as many of the 'straight' girls are that model here...
              How revolutionary!
              The nude-female porn business was dominated by men, and then Abby and others got into the mix and changed it around to be more female-friendly.
              And now to have a woman proprietor of a nude-male porn business. It boggles the mind! You'd be attracting a whole different class of models, I'm sure. Perhaps your different orientation would be able to build up an audience of straight women, not just gay men.

              A question: at Barrysummers.com, will size matter?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Luxman View Post
                Haha, too late....

                [ATTACH]6310[/ATTACH]

                Lxm
                Well, how about "Alex Summers", I'm kinda partial to the name Alex(ander)

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by arsby View Post
                  A question: at Barrysummers.com, will size matter?
                  Nope, I will adopt Abby's philosophies and say that the site is all about "natural, australian, amatuer, nude males" with the emphasis being on natural, everyday guys that you might see out and about... so I'll take all sizes, hehe... and the BB shoots will use the same Tier system as we do here at AW: Tier 1 will be a bunch of guys just mucking around together, say having a nude BBQ (not too close to the barbie now !) or kicking the footy... Tier 2 would be two guys just making out, but no hand-to-genital contact... and of course T3 would be the works... yeah this could really work, now arsby, I'm going to need an editor *hint, hint* and Luxman I also need a moderator *hint, hint* Hmm, ok well if barrysummers.com is gone then maybe barrysummers.com.au

                  Luv Melinda

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                    #10
                    You gotta wonder who registered barrysummers.com and WHY Btw. Melinda you'll want to include b/g sets on your new site too. Done in a way women might actually like looking at them. Such sites are VERY rare (about 4 or 5 worldwide I think), girlfriend had to search REALLY hard to find some.

                    And do beware of the distance to the bbq indeedy

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                      #11
                      Another new idea would be a thread where you can ask general questions'i've just started a thread just to ask what happened to lost posts now i think thats done and soon will also be taken away too so i suggest a thread to ask general questions.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by fransAW View Post
                        You gotta wonder who registered barrysummers.com and WHY Btw. Melinda you'll want to include b/g sets on your new site too. Done in a way women might actually like looking at them. Such sites are VERY rare (about 4 or 5 worldwide I think), girlfriend had to search REALLY hard to find some.
                        Absolutely!!! Its unlikely that women will flock to nude male sites – you’ll just end up competing with the gay market. As for genuine amateur BG stuff, Frans is right. Strange, one can source all manner of kink and fetish sites but straightforward hetero sex and it’s nigh on impossible. Sometimes I think that when the kids have left school, I’ll go back to college, learn photography and then advertise for couples of all ages to fuck in front of me and my camera. Hmmm, mrsroopsinyourbedroom.com

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by fransAW View Post
                          And do beware of the distance to the bbq indeedy
                          Distance may vary

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mrs Roops View Post
                            ...Hmmm, mrsroopsinyourbedroom.com
                            Line forms to the right, folks!

                            You should reconsider the site name, Mr Roops might have a problem sharing you.

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                              #15
                              Wouldn't it be a good idea if there was a thread where people who wanted to compliment the photographer and videographer on the shoot could go to,surely this makes sense and would keep the new model page for compliments for the model the thread is for..........not rocket science is it ?

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                                #16
                                Hey, Chief! Maybe it's not what you meant, but "sucking up" is usually what you do with someone in a superior position which can gain you favor in their eyes.
                                People here aren't sucking up to the staff, they don't have an ulterior motive.

                                They are genuinely appreciative, and understand that there's teamwork involved in any shoot. The models understand this better than anyone and I'm sure they are just as appreciative or more so than any member about the work of the shoot supervisor, model liaison, shoot assistant, and photographer or videographer. (And image editor. Let's not forget the image editor. )

                                There's a synergy involved... a good model makes the photographer look better, and a good photographer knows how to draw out the personality of the model, making her look better. A good shoot supervisor sweats the details about how, when, where, and with what, thereby making the whole shoot a lot less stressful for everyone else.

                                If you want to adore the model and only the model, go ahead. But don't forget that there are those who are genuinely appreciative of the folks who bring the model to you.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by chiefbrody View Post
                                  Wouldn't it be a good idea if there was a thread where people who wanted to compliment the photographer and videographer on the shoot could go to,surely this makes sense and would keep the new model page for compliments for the model the thread is for..........not rocket science is it ?
                                  Depends, 'new model' threads or general threads about shoots are about the entire shoot. If you want to (mostly) talk about/with a model go to the 'models speak' thread. Much safer there .

                                  I tend to use 'shoot' threads to give my opinion on the shoot concerned. That does include what I think of the models obviously but also how the vids and stills were shot. After all, staff needs feedback too Separating that out to a per-staffer thread isn't really that convenient, might as well keep that grouped on shoot basis (and two threads per shoot would be a bit silly wouldn't it ?).

                                  I don't see the need to think in model/not-model concepts. But since I don't think I'll convince you of that I won't bother

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                                    #18
                                    When you go to the models thread you have the new models these threads have always been about the new models ie: i like her shes nice and so on,if there was ONE thread that was for behind camera praise that would work as well,if you go back to last year no one was going to these threads to say anything except about the model in question the thread is after all called THE MODELS

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                                      #19
                                      Originally, it was called "The Models" because we only had about five forums, and that seemed as good a name as any for what we had planned for it. But as time has gone on, what it has really morphed into is "The Shoots" because it's where all the imageset shoots are heralded and what is linked to from their profile pages. And now that we have more than just one photographer, praise for the shoot quality is more frequent, as there is some distinct style showing through.

                                      Sorry, Chief, it really makes more sense to praise the team involved in the thread about the shoot, than to create a separate one. Without that team, the shoot couldn't happen. They deserve just as much recognition as anyone, when it's called for.

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                                        #20
                                        Beg to differ,but i'll leave it only to say it didn't happen until this year and the praise now is for the sake of,
                                        there have been many quality pictures over the last few years that didn't get the praise they deserved because it wasn't prompted.




                                        If you aint got the model you aint got the shoot ..by the way
                                        Last edited by chiefbrody; 2 August 2007, 11:23 AM.

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by chiefbrody View Post
                                          If you aint got the model you aint got the shoot ..by the way
                                          Hmm, recalls me the old story of the egg and the chicken.

                                          Lxm

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by arsby View Post
                                            Line forms to the right, folks!

                                            You should reconsider the site name, Mr Roops might have a problem sharing you.
                                            Hmm, I’d have a problem sharing me more to the point; I’m a good Welsh Chapel girl!!!

                                            Crickey!!! I can see now how confusion might arise. That looks really bad!!! Still, most of you guys no my position on that. Um, mrsroopspervesinyour bedroom.com? No that doesn’t look good either!!! How about mrsroopsvoyeurmoments.com???

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Vid Dude View Post
                                              now that we have more than just one photographer, praise for the shoot quality is more frequent, as there is some distinct style showing through.
                                              The site is exactly the same as when i joined ,the new material daily is the same and the quality is the same if not the same i'ed say the site is a little bit more mechanical and i don't think it's a coincidence that the most striking picture set's of recent weeks are the redux shoot's of petria and anne b by nico and penny.

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Mrs Roops View Post
                                                How about mrsroopsvoyeurmoments.com???
                                                And it's sister site, mrsroopsexhibitionistmoments.com.

                                                Somehow I think the latter will be more popular.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by chiefbrody View Post
                                                  The site is exactly the same as when i joined ,the new material daily is the same and the quality is the same if not the same i'ed say the site is a little bit more mechanical and i don't think it's a coincidence that the most striking picture set's of recent weeks are the redux shoot's of petria and anne b by nico and penny.
                                                  Well, you know it's more mechanical because you read here on the forums about how it must be more mechanical in order to maintain such a large and complex site.

                                                  Can you give any examples of how it looks more mechanical to you.

                                                  P.S. I disagree that the most striking recent sets have been reduxes. I've been bowled over by some of the recent new models.

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Luxman View Post
                                                    Hmm, recalls me the old story of the egg and the chicken.

                                                    Lxm
                                                    Ah, the old chicken and egg conundrum. For reasons that are not abundantly clear, I am compelled to refer you to a post I wrote just before Christmas in 2004. I must caution m’learned colleagues that the article includes an image where an animal was roughed up slightly in order for the photograph to be taken.

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by arsby View Post
                                                      Can you give any examples of how it looks more mechanical to you.

                                                      P.S. I disagree that the most striking recent sets have been reduxes. I've been bowled over by some of the recent new models.
                                                      Hmm.. seems to me that different people like the slightly different styles from the photographer/videographer involved. That such a difference exists disproves the mechanical idea somewhat

                                                      Maybe 'The Models' should be renamed to 'The shoots' ? Which is what it has become anyway. Easier to differentiate between that and 'The Models Speak' too What to do with 'The Videos' though, kinda useless then.

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by arsby View Post

                                                        P.S. I disagree that the most striking recent sets have been reduxes. I've been bowled over by some of the recent new models.
                                                        Arsby my sweet i was refering to the technic only,striking imagery.pictures that jumped out.All the models bowl me over
                                                        Last edited by chiefbrody; 3 August 2007, 08:22 AM.

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                                                          #29
                                                          How about this?

                                                          How about a site on the Discussion Boards named "Off The Record" where members could post opinions, suggestions, criticisms, observations, shaded compliments, etc., that do not require replies and when there is some need to be discreet. The other members would not be able to read the posts and there would be no replies to read either. That seems to me a good way to get feedback if it's truly wanted.
                                                          Last edited by lpadge; 5 August 2007, 11:28 PM.

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                                                            #30
                                                            Are you suggesting a place to post suggestions, criticisms, etc so that only Abby and staff can read them? Isn't that almost the same thing as sending an email or using the 'site feedback' form?

                                                            Luv Melinda

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