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    Abby, what the hell. The girl girl videos just seem to be hit and mis lately. I mean, there is more fingering than anything, fingering is good of course but not an entire video, come on. I am totally disappointed with the heat in these videos. It just seems only certain models like to have sex with girls. I have said this to Fotina and to Gabrielle in the models speak section. Fotina totally agrees and you should speak with her. Her passion and oral is terrific. If you got more close ups of this and had your models do oral "like they should in a GIRL GIRL VIDEO", more people would be happy. If your going to pair girls together there should be plenty of pussy eating and wet faces, otherwise it's going to be boring and just not worth watching 2 girls who aren't into it. These girls need to understand if your going to do a girl girl shoot then get nasty for us. None of this I'm afraid to get my face in there and suck a pussy. This is un-acceptable as far as I'm concerned. This is a site for porn lovers and lovers of GIRLS WHO LOVE GIRLS AND PUSSY. Am I making myself clear here. Abby, don't get me wrong...! Your site is Great..! I have been a member for a LONG time now. I am however getting Very Unsettled. I have looked at Viv Thomas Productions, and if you want GREAT PUSSY EATING, and GIRLS WHO LOVE GIRLS, they certainly DELIVER. If your models can show us THE MONEY, so to speak, then they will step up to the plate and give us what WE WANT. INCREDIBLEY WET, INSATIABLE, MOUTH AND FACE ALL OVER THOSE WONDERFUL HAIRY PUSSIES. I know you (and they) can do this..! Get these girls to "all of them in every girl girl video that is done here", to get nasty and eat some damn pussy for cripes sakes. Otherwise I will have to seek out what I desire from somewhere else. I know I'm only 1 person so it may not make a difference to you now, but I feel other's feel the same. I really don't want to do that seeing's I 've been a consistent member for over a year now. So Abby, I beg you, and plead with you to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, give us some GIRLS TRUELY LOVING THE PUSSY.
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    Adding some space between paragraph would make your post MUCH more readable by the way.

    Not everybody wants 'nasty' shoots, though it is clear you'd prefer more oral in the tier3 shoots You can't realistically compare VT movies to AW shoots. They're done entirely differently with very different people and ideas. If you start watching an AW shoot expecting something similar to a VT scene.. well that's just bound to end in disappointment.

    The biggest difference is that AW uses amateur models, some of whom have never done anything with a girl prior to their tier3 shoot (Viv's models do 100+ g/g shoots/year). That can be exciting to watch, the exploring and such.. but it can be *too* innocent for some I guess. That's the problem with realism, too much of it can get boring

    I'm all in favour of more oral during tier3's (without a close-up at 3cm distance please;-) but how to get that without specifically directing models? Don't want to formalise a shoot, kill the spontaneity and such.
    Last edited by Frans; 12 March 2008, 11:27 PM.

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      #3
      To Frans,
      I think you don't understand my point. Yes I understand the models and this site, hence I've been here for over a year and that's what I truely like. Amature models...! But my point is, still, regardless if they have never done it before, if you want to have SEX, with a woman, then have sex. Do it all, and show us you enjoy it. If there is some apprehension that the model is going to make it not passionate, then they shouldn't do a tier 3 it should be a tier 2 or 1. Abby does tier 1, tier 2 and tier 3's. Does she not? A tier 3 girl girl should have it all. Splendid Oral, Wettness, Fingering(much less of it), and kissing and the burning fire a girl has to be with another girl. Let's look at some points here. Gabrielle and Jilly, Gabrielle and Chloe B, Eva and Marigold, Fotina and Sahara, Fotina and Violet, Anneka and Liandra, etc, get my drift. I, and many others pay good money every month to get what we want. I absolutely know Viv Thomas is a different kind of site. But MY POINT IS SIMPLY THIS, If you combine the sensuality, incredible oral and the burning passion to be with a girl on ABBY'S SITE THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE. Don't you get it? An amature girl eating up another woman like she's been hungry for it all her life and finally has done it. Is that not SUPER HOT? Come on. Let's be real here. Off course not every one wants a nasty setup, BUT SOME DO. That's why Abby has different Tiers Right? I'm no idiot and have been a lover of this kind of thing for many years and that's simply plainly it. I know your defending and all but Abby's site could become the Internet's SUPREME SITE if she listens to people like me. And yes I have posted this in other area's of the forum because I want others to see my point, especially Abby.

      How to get the models to be better, simple just tell them. And make it clear you expect them to deliver.

      D

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        #4
        Hi D, I think I understand your points just fine;

        1. More oral
        2. More passion

        That's about it, right ??

        Have you seen Nadine & Patience ? Nice bit of oral towards the end.

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          #5
          There seems to be a huge difference in opinion here. The first post in praise of Laundromat Girls where there's no real sex at all, followed by a request for frantic pussy eating.
          My tastes fall somewhere in the middle, ie.mutual masturbation. I find the most erotic interaction between two girls is when they are kissing passionately and masturbating each other at the same time. The orgasms brought on this way are, to me, the most erotic on the site.
          My two favourites of this type are Mim & Jacqui and Christiana & Vanessa Y, both amazingly erotic.

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            #6
            This site is and advertised as a "natural" girl site and it is. Some models show what you want, some don't. That is naturalness of the site. There is no directing, which is fine with me. I also enjoy the intense cunnilingus as it gives me some idea how to please my wife. She loves my "education" by the way. Too bad there isn't a site that she would look at to return the experience. I feel this is truly a girl next door site.That's why it is so popular!

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              #7
              Originally posted by Frans View Post
              Hi D, I think I understand your points just fine;

              1. More oral
              2. More passion

              That's about it, right ??

              Have you seen Nadine & Patience ? Nice bit of oral towards the end.
              Hi Frans,
              Yes, Patience is definately hot and knows how to love a woman, Nadine also. But, if Abby is going to have models do "TIER 3 SHOOTS" The models doing those TIER 3 SHOOTS, should deliver the goods. Right? Abby plans on splitting up the site, so when and how she does it, she should keep this in mind. Amature girls in lesbian settings really giving us the oral sex we want to see. Seriously, Ask Fotina, She totally 100% agree's with me. If you love a woman your going to want to eat her pussy up. If you or anyone else like milder stuff, then those shoots should be the tier 1 and 2's. No or little timid pussy eating should be considered tier 2's. Personally, I don't even understand why they are even there. But that's me. I'm a very sexual good looking woman and when I see a woman I like guess what, I want to eat her up, not wash clothes with her and giggle. I don't want to seem bitchy or anything, I just like what I like and I really feel Abby Winters will be by far better and the leader in this kind of erotica if she can just get the Models and camera women to fulfill this request. I do love it here but if this timidness continues with models I want to see BURY THEIR PRETTY FACES in some pussy and eat it good, (Melitia, Jamie Lee, Cleo, Emma R), I'll have to find my erotica somewhere else, as much as it would terribly pain me. Hopefully I'll continue to enjoy my stay here.

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                #8
                Originally posted by donagm6 View Post
                No or little timid pussy eating should be considered tier 2's. Personally, I don't even understand why they are even there. But that's me. I'm a very sexual good looking woman and when I see a woman I like guess what, I want to eat her up, not wash clothes with her and giggle.
                The Laundromat shoot IS a tier2, which can be frustrating to watch if you want tier3 action yes Looks a bit uncomfy in that laundromat to have a proper tier3 shoot btw. No bed or such around

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                  #9
                  I just want to say that Fotina and Violet are the hottest women on this site--especially when they are together. Could it just be that these two truly LIKE each other and that there is passion between them?

                  Maybe some of the other girls are not as attracted to each other as these two?

                  Ksos

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by donagm6
                    ...I mean, there is more fingering than anything, fingering is good of course but not an entire video, come on. I am totally disappointed with the heat in these videos....
                    My only complaint about Laundromat girls is that there aren't enough of them! Just get 'em naked in a big group and stand around looking pretty, I'm happy.

                    I sorta agree with Everard, more than kissing I'd appreciate a little self- or mutual-masturbation. Just a little. I don't think a multi-girl IM would be practical, but a little stroking here and there would be nice.

                    Of course a massive dildo/vibrator/sex-toy orgy would be best!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ksos1963 View Post
                      I just want to say that Fotina and Violet are the hottest women on this site--especially when they are together. Could it just be that these two truly LIKE each other and that there is passion between them?
                      Maybe some of the other girls are not as attracted to each other as these two?
                      Ksos
                      Violet and Fotina are both confident, very sexy, girls. Both are full of spunk! Get them together and you can see the outstanding result!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by donagm6 View Post
                        Abby, what the hell. The girl girl videos just seem to be hit and mis lately. I mean, there is more fingering than anything, fingering is good of course but not an entire video, come on. I am totally disappointed with the heat in these videos. It just seems only certain models like to have sex with girls. I have said this to Fotina and to Gabrielle in the models speak section. Fotina totally agrees and you should speak with her. Her passion and oral is terrific. If you got more close ups of this and had your models do oral "like they should in a GIRL GIRL VIDEO", more people would be happy. If your going to pair girls together there should be plenty of pussy eating and wet faces, otherwise it's going to be boring and just not worth watching 2 girls who aren't into it. These girls need to understand if your going to do a girl girl shoot then get nasty for us. None of this I'm afraid to get my face in there and suck a pussy. This is un-acceptable as far as I'm concerned. This is a site for porn lovers and lovers of GIRLS WHO LOVE GIRLS AND PUSSY. Am I making myself clear here. Abby, don't get me wrong...! Your site is Great..! I have been a member for a LONG time now. I am however getting Very Unsettled. I have looked at Viv Thomas Productions, and if you want GREAT PUSSY EATING, and GIRLS WHO LOVE GIRLS, they certainly DELIVER. If your models can show us THE MONEY, so to speak, then they will step up to the plate and give us what WE WANT. INCREDIBLEY WET, INSATIABLE, MOUTH AND FACE ALL OVER THOSE WONDERFUL HAIRY PUSSIES. I know you (and they) can do this..! Get these girls to "all of them in every girl girl video that is done here", to get nasty and eat some damn pussy for cripes sakes. Otherwise I will have to seek out what I desire from somewhere else. I know I'm only 1 person so it may not make a difference to you now, but I feel other's feel the same. I really don't want to do that seeing's I 've been a consistent member for over a year now. So Abby, I beg you, and plead with you to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, give us some GIRLS TRUELY LOVING THE PUSSY.
                        D

                        *sigh* couldn't you have put this a little less....crudely? anyway, thats not my point...my point (as others have made in the other thread you posted this...people tend to resent double posting btw) is that you are watching amateurs and yes, abby staff could tell us "You MUST spend ost of the shoot with your mouth in one anothers crotch" but, models would resent being ordered to do things...we're amateurs and we're doing what feels good...

                        I might get a strange reaction from this, but I dont particularly LIKE oral...so should I be forced to give and recieve more oral (which i dont enjoy receiving but am happy to give) and not orgasm...or have more clitoral stimulation and deep, passionate fingering which would ensure that a shoot results in plenty of orgasms?? I'm not going to fake an orgasm, because we dont...and I dont orgasm easy from oral...I RARELY allow my boyfriend of 18 months to lick me out...
                        People enjoy different things, and people orgasm from different things...so, sometimes what YOU like might not be portrayed in a video, because if it did...there wouldnt be orgasms in the video...you say it's boring to see a video where the girls arent into it or there isnt enough oral...but MOST people are here because we're real...and we have real orgasms...and they'd think it'd be boring if there was plenty of oral but no real, earth shaking passionate orgasms...

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                          #13
                          I'm going to do this in pieces, I have also replied to your original post in the other thread...
                          Originally posted by donagm6 View Post
                          I, and many others pay good money every month to get what we want.
                          This is true, what is also true is that what you want and what others want...can be VERY VERY different...see the thread that this is posted in? it begins with creedmans post, stating how much he ENJOYED the laundromat shoot that you belittle in another post...whichis followed by various others who are asking for more of the same thing...people have different likes...not everyone will be pleased with every update, every week...thats how life goes.



                          Of course not every one wants a nasty setup, BUT SOME DO. That's why Abby has different Tiers Right?
                          There is no "nasty" section of abby winters tiers...there are purely categorised by the level of action in the shoot...that being said...just because a tier 3 does contain fingering oral and the lot...does not make it "nasty" many members when I asked them what sort of shoot they liked best, said they enjoyed the slow sensual teir 3 shoots...



                          I'm no idiot and have been a lover of this kind of thing for many years and that's simply plainly it. I know your defending and all but Abby's site could become the Internet's SUPREME SITE if she listens to people like me.
                          This is something commonly said by people who arent seeing enough of their particular fanatasy at AW.com...this isnt about being the BEST amateur porn site because it meets everyones fantasies and fetishes...it's about being fresh and real, something that is lacking in the porn industry...there's no aim to be a SUPREME site...just one that shows real girls real orgasms etc.

                          How to get the models to be better, simple just tell them. And make it clear you expect them to deliver.
                          demanding the models behave in a certain way in the shoots is 1. possibly against paradigm and AW.com ethos..
                          2. going to rapidly drecrease both the numbers of models that with particpate in t3's (and therefore number or t3 shoots produced) and decrease the models satisfaction with the way they're being treated and 4. start becoming like the shoots are being directed.

                          we are informed of what is expected of us...and yes, oral is something expected of us...and will be found in most shoots...some models may be inexperienced in how to give oral (and there is quite a few new models coming through the t3 ranks atm)..and that just adds to the realness of the shoot...if they were directed how to give oral, then the shoots would be being directed...
                          I dont particularly enjoy oral and therefore more "face in pussy action" would ultimately lead to less orgasms in my shoots...

                          so thats my opionion on the whole situation and I hope that explains why not every shoot is going to be perfectly to your liking..

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by cleo View Post
                            we are informed of what is expected of us...and yes, oral is something expected of us...and will be found in most shoots...some models may be inexperienced in how to give oral (and there is quite a few new models coming through the t3 ranks atm)..and that just adds to the realness of the shoot...if they were directed how to give oral, then the shoots would be being directed...
                            Well you could start giving classes... plenty of expeirence if I go by counting tier3's you've done

                            Ultimately indeed not every shoot will be to everyone's liking. Balancing them out is the trick

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by cleo View Post
                              ...demanding the models behave in a certain way in the shoots is 1. possibly against paradigm and AW.com ethos... 2. going to rapidly drecrease both the numbers of models that with particpate in t3's (and therefore number or t3 shoots produced) and decrease the models satisfaction with the way they're being treated and 4. start becoming like the shoots are being directed....
                              Not to mention that if we go the "nasty" route that donagm6 is advocating we won't be attracting stunningly beautiful, bright, articulate models like Cleo!
                              Indeed her clever and brilliantly informed opinions just add to her overall attractiveness.
                              Now if only she could learn to count to 4 she'd be perfect!

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                                #16
                                'Nasty' isn't very usefull as a classification anyway, since it means something else to everybody.

                                More oral would be nice, but only if the girls are into that.. otherwise what's the point?

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                                  #17
                                  shut up arsby!! 1,2, 4 is right!! ...

                                  hey, who needs maths if you can speak well

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                                    #18
                                    Donagm6 Hear Hear I Agree
                                    There Is Waaaayyyyyy Too Much Fingering And I Mean, How Much Do Ya Just Get Over It???? Dude Ya Point Is Loud And Clear To Me, I Just Hope Someone Else Is Listening!!!!

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                                      #19
                                      If you take girls who like each other you will always have good girl-girl videos. Yes, I like pussy eating, but I also like the fingering, the tribbing and even the kissing. But all this should be done with real passion so that you can see that the girls are enjoying themselves and get real orgasms.

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                                        #20
                                        Good different perspectives here by everybody. Especially appreciate those of Cleo and Fotina. donagm6, I don't totally agree with you, but I love the passion of your posts!

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cleo View Post
                                          shut up arsby!! 1,2, 4 is right!! ...

                                          hey, who needs maths if you can speak well
                                          Actually, I think you were counting in AW math.

                                          1, 2, T3, 4!

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                                            #22
                                            heheh exactly...AW math...and I rephrase my earlier comment...who needs maths when you're pretty and speak well

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ksos1963 View Post
                                              I just want to say that Fotina and Violet are the hottest women on this site--especially when they are together. Could it just be that these two truly LIKE each other and that there is passion between them?

                                              Maybe some of the other girls are not as attracted to each other as these two?

                                              Ksos
                                              Then they shouldn't be having sex together then should they. That's what I mean, no passion = dis-satisfied members. We are here to watch some hot, ok wait for it, "AMATURE, NO DIRECTOR, NATURAL GIRLS, HAVING WONDERFUL SEX!!!" Maybe it's because I'm an american woman that I LOVE TO EAT PUSSY!

                                              D

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by donagm6 View Post
                                                Maybe it's because I'm an american woman that I LOVE TO EAT PUSSY!
                                                Book a vacation to Aus. and show them how it's done?

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by cleo View Post
                                                  I'm going to do this in pieces, I have also replied to your original post in the other thread...

                                                  This is true, what is also true is that what you want and what others want...can be VERY VERY different...see the thread that this is posted in? it begins with creedmans post, stating how much he ENJOYED the laundromat shoot that you belittle in another post...whichis followed by various others who are asking for more of the same thing...people have different likes...not everyone will be pleased with every update, every week...thats how life goes.




                                                  There is no "nasty" section of abby winters tiers...there are purely categorised by the level of action in the shoot...that being said...just because a tier 3 does contain fingering oral and the lot...does not make it "nasty" many members when I asked them what sort of shoot they liked best, said they enjoyed the slow sensual teir 3 shoots...




                                                  This is something commonly said by people who arent seeing enough of their particular fanatasy at AW.com...this isnt about being the BEST amateur porn site because it meets everyones fantasies and fetishes...it's about being fresh and real, something that is lacking in the porn industry...there's no aim to be a SUPREME site...just one that shows real girls real orgasms etc.



                                                  demanding the models behave in a certain way in the shoots is 1. possibly against paradigm and AW.com ethos..
                                                  2. going to rapidly drecrease both the numbers of models that with particpate in t3's (and therefore number or t3 shoots produced) and decrease the models satisfaction with the way they're being treated and 4. start becoming like the shoots are being directed.

                                                  we are informed of what is expected of us...and yes, oral is something expected of us...and will be found in most shoots...some models may be inexperienced in how to give oral (and there is quite a few new models coming through the t3 ranks atm)..and that just adds to the realness of the shoot...if they were directed how to give oral, then the shoots would be being directed...
                                                  I dont particularly enjoy oral and therefore more "face in pussy action" would ultimately lead to less orgasms in my shoots...

                                                  so thats my opionion on the whole situation and I hope that explains why not every shoot is going to be perfectly to your liking..
                                                  Hello Lovely Cleo,
                                                  First of all, I only was using the term nasty as a reply to someone else who TERMED it that. Secondly I never once mentioned being directed by anyone. And thirdly If my personal likes and dislikes such as laundromat girls are such a problem oh well, I'm a customer and my comments likes and dislikes should be respected. Myself and others here I'm sure who don't post here would agree that we "WAIT VERY DAMN PATIENTLY TO SEE A HOT TIER 3 EVERY FREAKIN' WEEK OK"., and when it's not there we get diasappointed. IT'S PRETTY NATURAL NO? I LOVE THE NATURAL SETTING. I LOVE ALL YOU GIRLS, YOUR ALL WONDERFUL..! My main point is this. Why pair 2 women together if ithey aren't into women? That's Wierd. If your a girl doing a "TIER 3" and it is your first time being with a women, and you go down on her, don't you think everyone watching is still going to want to see some good oral? What about the girl recieving the oral? Do you really think she is enjoying a timid almost not touching mouth? I just don't understand it. That isn't going to get me wet at all. So what your saying is you like women, but don't like to give oral? You shouldn't be doing tier 3's then. Real women who love women love giving oral. Sorry. Your an Incredibly Beautiful Woman..! But now I know what to expect from your Girl Girl Shoots. I absolutely Love your IM shoots though.

                                                  D

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by arsby View Post
                                                    Not to mention that if we go the "nasty" route that donagm6 is advocating we won't be attracting stunningly beautiful, bright, articulate models like Cleo!
                                                    Indeed her clever and brilliantly informed opinions just add to her overall attractiveness.
                                                    Now if only she could learn to count to 4 she'd be perfect!
                                                    Arsby are you on the same site as me? Seriously. Quit sucking up and be real. This IS a PORN site right? Cleo isn't here to model Lingerie for Victoria's Secret(Though She Is Beautiful Enough to do so). She's here to perform for us NO? Ok and nasty is NOT THE WORD TO BE USED HERE. You people have NOT A CLUE!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone ever talk to Gabrielle, Fotina, Marigold, Sue Ann, Anneka. Those ARE THE KIND OF TIER 3'S Myself and Others I'm SURE would love to see more of. Has everyone FORGOTTEN about that kind of TIER 3? If so I think you need to watch those shoots again. THAT IS WHAT I FEEL A TIER 3 IS. Things are getting to routine here.

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Frans View Post
                                                      Book a vacation to Aus. and show them how it's done?
                                                      OOOOOHHHHHHHH, Let me tell ya, If I could I'd be there and they would ALL BE IN TROUBLE, except Gabrielle and Fotina, those girls know how to do it. Oh and by the way. Fotina's FIRST SHOOT with a girl was awesome. After that she was OFF THE HOOK. Go ahead and ask her about this. I'm telling you. if it was up to HER, all the TIER 3 shoots would be Insatiably Satisfying for everyone. She should start picking up the camera.

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by donagm6 View Post
                                                        My main point is this. Why pair 2 women together if ithey aren't into women? That's Wierd. If your a girl doing a "TIER 3" and it is your first time being with a women, and you go down on her, don't you think everyone watching is still going to want to see some good oral? What about the girl recieving the oral? Do you really think she is enjoying a timid almost not touching mouth? I just don't understand it.
                                                        And that is pretty much the key-point I think. It's perfectly possible for two girls to have a very satisfactory shoot/session whatever-you-call-it without any oral. That such a shoot doesn't 'work' for you so to speak is something different and as a member you're free to complain about it. By all means do so, without feedback it is very difficult to judge opinions on shoots.

                                                        Just don't confuse your preferences with the only 'right' way for everybody to have sex (in real life or on video).

                                                        Originally posted by donagm6 View Post
                                                        So what your saying is you like women, but don't like to give oral? You shouldn't be doing tier 3's then. Real women who love women love giving oral.
                                                        There is no requirement for tier3's to have oral, though I understand that would make them more appealing to you. There also is no requirement that women are only allowed to love other women if they love giving oral. Different people have different likes and dislikes.

                                                        I'm most definitly in favour of more oral, as long as it comes naturally. That's part of the charm of shoots for me, to see what the girls will do. Just don't shoot oral when the girls are at a 90-degree 'camera-friendly' angle, let them dive in if they want to!

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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by cleo View Post
                                                          *sigh* couldn't you have put this a little less....crudely? anyway, thats not my point...my point (as others have made in the other thread you posted this...people tend to resent double posting btw) is that you are watching amateurs and yes, abby staff could tell us "You MUST spend ost of the shoot with your mouth in one anothers crotch" but, models would resent being ordered to do things...we're amateurs and we're doing what feels good...

                                                          I might get a strange reaction from this, but I dont particularly LIKE oral...so should I be forced to give and recieve more oral (which i dont enjoy receiving but am happy to give) and not orgasm...or have more clitoral stimulation and deep, passionate fingering which would ensure that a shoot results in plenty of orgasms?? I'm not going to fake an orgasm, because we dont...and I dont orgasm easy from oral...I RARELY allow my boyfriend of 18 months to lick me out...
                                                          People enjoy different things, and people orgasm from different things...so, sometimes what YOU like might not be portrayed in a video, because if it did...there wouldnt be orgasms in the video...you say it's boring to see a video where the girls arent into it or there isnt enough oral...but MOST people are here because we're real...and we have real orgasms...and they'd think it'd be boring if there was plenty of oral but no real, earth shaking passionate orgasms...
                                                          Cleo Hunny, sorry for being (crude) as you put it. But you obviously need to be paired with another woman because if you have a hard time orgasming from oral THEY ARE "NOT" DOING IT RIGHT. I didn't say fill the ENTIRE VIDEO WITH ORAL EITHER. You TOTALLY mis my points. I LOVE IT ALL. My problem is simply this and I'l say it till you understand. If your going to go down on a woman. Then FREAKIN' do it right. It's boring and unappealing otherwise. I understand your postion. If you have a problem orgasming from oral fine. But what about giving it to someone who likes it? Fotina's comment is DIRECTLY below yours. There are models at ABBY WINTERS who TOTALLY AGREE with me so you can see my complete and VALID points. I still love you anyway, your just so damn gorgeous. Just do another lovely IM single or double and orgasm nicely for us.

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by fotina View Post
                                                            Donagm6 Hear Hear I Agree
                                                            There Is Waaaayyyyyy Too Much Fingering And I Mean, How Much Do Ya Just Get Over It???? Dude Ya Point Is Loud And Clear To Me, I Just Hope Someone Else Is Listening!!!!
                                                            Yea, Fotina your super awesome.

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