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    ok, there is a thing that I really hate.

    Those shots in wich a model masturbates but the video ends without orgasm. If you shot a model masturbating, please ask her to end her work...

    I was watching Amy J video...great, if only there was an orgasm.

    Plus, I would like that there was more solo videos with masturbation and orgasms, not only IMs and other, if you look at the "orgasms" list, there are few videos compared to the quantity of solo videos in the website. And updates for solo videos showing orgasms are slow.

    Plus I would like to see more videos showing pussy contractions during orgasms. Someone says it is impossible, I know it isn't because there are some videos in the website showing them, so if Abby and the models want it, this thing is definitely possible. And I'm not the only one who is interested in that kind of videos.

    Except for those things, abbywinters is perfect. I love IMs (but late double IMs are not good as the older...they are more girl-girl shots than IMs).

    Greetings, sorry for my english.

    #2
    agreed

    the showing of the girls 'contracting' or 'pulsing' during orgams is what needs to be focused on a bit more

    this site hinges alot on the girls orgasm and that is a HUGE part of the orgasm

    would be like having a site of men masturbating and not showing the 'money shot'

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      #3
      Originally posted by totigno View Post
      ok, there is a thing that I really hate.

      Those shots in wich a model masturbates but the video ends without orgasm. If you shot a model masturbating, please ask her to end her work...
      You're kidding, aren't you? If a beautiful girl played with herself on camera and for some reason was unable to come to orgasm, you'd rather not see it at all?

      There are all sorts of reasons that a guy would have trouble coming, and I assume the same for a girl. She's nervous, she's tired, she's worried or distracted about something, but she's being a good sport and doing something really gutsy and possibly nerve-wracking that most of us wouldn't do... masturbate on camera. Then you penalize her because she can't come?

      I'd say you're penalizing me by not letting me see her efforts -- I'd rather see her beautiful body, beautiful face and beautiful naughty parts, the orgasm isn't that important to me.

      (By the way, Totigno, you're English is perfectly understandable.)

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        #4
        Originally posted by arsby View Post
        You're kidding, aren't you?
        no, it's only my opinion, I'm not kidding , I like all efforts, I like everything about models, but sometimes it seems that videos could show more...sometimes I see the model almost at the point of orgasm and the video is suddenly cut...and after there is the model speaking, dancing or doing other things I'm not really interested in (sorry, I think I've joined a "porn" site, if I want see girls speaking or dancing I can go on youtube).

        greetings

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          #5
          Originally posted by totigno View Post
          no, it's only my opinion, I'm not kidding , I like all efforts, I like everything about models, but sometimes it seems that videos could show more...sometimes I see the model almost at the point of orgasm and the video is suddenly cut...and after there is the model speaking, dancing or doing other things I'm not really interested in (sorry, I think I've joined a "porn" site, if I want see girls speaking or dancing I can go on youtube).
          Different people, different tastes that's how it goes. But rest assured that girls orgasming isn't ever cut out at editing. If you're not really interested in the girls doing anything but masturbating you might want to switch to watching the Intimate Moment videos instead. The solo videos are primairly to get to know the models, which quite often includes them speaking yes

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            #6
            Originally posted by totigno
            ...sorry, I think I've joined a "porn" site, if I want see girls speaking or dancing I can go on youtube
            Originally posted by Frans View Post
            ...The solo videos are primairly to get to know the models, which quite often includes them speaking yes
            Sometimes a girl is more sexy, more desirable, more adorable and even more beautiful if you get to know her, and see what her personality is like. Some of the models are wild and playful, some are sweet and laid back.
            Yes, you can see plenty of cute girls on Youtube, you get to see their fun, sweet personalities. But you can't see them being cute and sweet, then stripping naked and masturbating! That, my friend, is heaven on earth!

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              #7
              Originally posted by Frans View Post
              you might want to switch to watching the Intimate Moment videos instead. The solo videos are primairly to get to know the models, which quite often includes them speaking yes
              Yes I know, but in Intimate moments it is almost impossible to see orgasm contractions, while I think it could be possible to make such kind of videos as solos or redux videos (or also deviations if you want...).

              Please tell me WHY a video like that is impossible on abbywinters (that was taken from bubblegirls, FTVgirls and other):

              links to copyrighted material removed

              I don't know if I can post links like that here, if not, moderator please remove them, thanks.

              I do not say to make ONLY this kind of videos, but I think it could be a nice idea adding some videos like that, a model masturbating another for example (hands on style)...you could say, well why don't you join bubblegirls? Ok, because I don't like the models that are on bubblegirls! I like the kind of model that are here on abbywinters!
              I would like to see them doing this kind of things on videos SOMETIMES, not always!

              Please note it is only my opinion... an idea! I'm not saying "you must do it". I think it could be nice, that's all, and of course, like I've said, I would join the site for life...

              Originally posted by arsby View Post
              But you can't see them being cute and sweet, then stripping naked and masturbating! That, my friend, is heaven on earth!
              yes, but I think that when one masturbates the aim is always orgasm. You don't begin to masturbate and stop at a point. So when I see a model that masturbates and stops without orgasm I think that it is a "fake" masturbation...and I don't like it very much...but it is only my taste.

              Greetings.
              Last edited by Frans; 25 March 2008, 06:53 PM.

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                #8
                As you noted yourself those are clips from othersites, thus copyrighted. But your basic idea is fairly easy to describe. Have a camera REAL cloe-up from a model's pussy while either she masturbates or someone masturbates her.

                Since I hate close-ups overal I'm not the one you want to talk to about this idea My main problem with such a setup is that I don't see much of the girl at all. It's a bit too gynalogical for my taste.

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                  #9
                  well, I don't think close ups are necessary. I hate closeup too, I love videos where you can see pussy AND face (and better of all if you can see the entire body). It is possible to see pussy contractions even without close ups, specially with the great quality of abbywinters videos. (reamains the fact that a really close up video could be added sometimes for example in the deviation section).

                  Those videos is a demonstration:




                  In those video contractions of Carla and Bridgette orgasms are visible (barely), just add a better light and close a little the angle and the videos could be perfect.

                  Another great video where you can clearly see the contractions AND face AND body:



                  unfortunately, those videos are really rare on abbywinters... BUT I think they are not that difficult to shot, and could be added more frequently, specially now that the site will be splitted with a site dedicated only to "solo" shots.

                  Greetings
                  Last edited by totigno; 25 March 2008, 07:18 PM.

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                    #10

                    that first vid clip

                    for some reason I get a 'denied' page what is it??

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by just102 View Post
                      that first vid clip

                      for some reason I get a 'denied' page what is it??
                      totigno has used a link to a List that is not public, so only he can see it. The Video he refers to is here:



                      L

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                        #12
                        "Money shoot"?

                        Originally posted by just102 View Post
                        would be like having a site of men masturbating and not showing the 'money shot'
                        You cant compare like that! Are you crazy? Theres a reason they call mens ejaculation the "money shoot", theres nothing else about it!! . When I watch IM/Solo I enjoy the whole thing, including undressing, talking and dancing and some times I do the "money shoot" before the girl(s).

                        So I have to say that I agree with Arsby on this one. See his post #6.

                        However; the close-up question is good. AW could improve on that one.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Lesley View Post
                          totigno has used a link to a List that is not public, so only he can see it. The Video he refers to is here:
                          Sorry, my mistake.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by audun25 View Post
                            However; the close-up question is good. AW could improve on that one.
                            Yes, I see that in all pics set there are ultra close ups of pussies...so I don't unerdstand why sometimes it should be not possible to do ultra closeups videos of pussy during orgasm.

                            Anyway, as I've said before, close ups are not what I'm interested in.

                            Greetings

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by totigno View Post
                              Yes, I see that in all pics set there are ultra close ups of pussies...so I don't unerdstand why sometimes it should be not possible to do ultra closeups videos of pussy during orgasm.

                              Anyway, as I've said before, close ups are not what I'm interested in.

                              Greetings
                              Unless they start using multiple cameras in the shoots (which can be inhibiting for the models) you'll have problems with this. There are many who prefer to see the model's face during orgasm. They'll be unhappy if you show the crotch. And the crotch-lovers will be unhappy if you show the face. And the guy who wants to see the toes curl will be unhappy either way!

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                                #16
                                you can make all happy if you make one video showing face, another time you make a video showing crotch, another time you shot a video showing feets etc...Abbywinters is not dedicated spefically to something so I think it would be possible and nice have a great variety of shots.

                                At the moment ther is a great variety in my opinion, the only thing is missing is the one just102 and I have noticed.

                                Grretings.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by totigno View Post
                                  no, it's only my opinion, I'm not kidding , I like all efforts, I like everything about models, but sometimes it seems that videos could show more...sometimes I see the model almost at the point of orgasm and the video is suddenly cut...and after there is the model speaking, dancing or doing other things I'm not really interested in (sorry, I think I've joined a "porn" site, if I want see girls speaking or dancing I can go on youtube).

                                  greetings
                                  Had you taken the tour before joining up to the site? The whole fact that you got to know a bit about the girls and introduce some familiarity with them was one of the main reasons I joined this site. It isn't another site filled with characterless hollow bodies doing things to each other on screen, revealing the girls as people with not just a list of their likes and hates, but also their hopes, dreams, experiences, memories and impulses makes them so much more real and sexy.

                                  Sorry to be the one to tell you but, you haven't joined a porn site. You've joined a site featuring real life people engaging in erotic acts. If you want to go back to your dime a dozen interchangable subject porn then that's up to you, however I would recommend riding out your subscription and giving this place a real try. It's so much less of a mechanical reaction here, it's so much more real.

                                  By the way, I'm not judging you; I'm just trying to demonstrate the appeal of this site and dedication it illicits in its members.

                                  All the very best.

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                                    #18
                                    I've posted my ideas, that's all, my ideas doesn't mean "you must do so". I love the site as is, and that's the reason that led me to join it, I'm not a stupid, I've taken the tour and much more. I tried to imagine what I would like to "add", nothing more, I've never said that the things as they are are "wrong". I think nothing is Perfect and everything can be improved.

                                    Greetings
                                    Last edited by totigno; 28 March 2008, 06:58 PM.

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                                      #19
                                      I agree with you, Totigno. I think you were very clear that you were just making a suggestion. I also agree that there is always room for improvement.

                                      Do you agree with us that getting to know what a girl is like is a wonderful thing, even in a porn site?

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by arsby
                                        Do you agree with us that getting to know what a girl is like is a wonderful thing, even in a porn site

                                        OF COURSE! and this is one of the reason I've joined the site. Because it is not a PORN site like others, in fact when I've said that, if you notice, I've said: ---- I think I've joined a "porn" site ---- notice the "".

                                        Ok, let's explain, I've difficult with english so sometimes I've difficult to tell what I want.

                                        Please read the beginning of the post.

                                        1) There are solo videos where a girl start to masturbate.
                                        2) there are some of those videos where the gilr reaches orgasm.
                                        3) sometimes the video end witout orgasm.

                                        I don't like (hate) when I see the girl starting masturbating and not ending with an orgasm because I think that the mastirbation is "faked", if I start to masturbate it is because I want an orgasm.

                                        I've never said that should not be videos showing models talking dancing touching etc. What I had wanted to say is that WHEN there is a model masturbating I would like to see her reaching orgasm.
                                        AND, because I like a lot videos where girls masturbate (not only IMs), I think it would be nice to have more of that, because they are rare.

                                        After there was a discussion about orgasm contractions etc, but that was not the argument of this post. However I gave my suggestions about that because it is a thing I love to see, and I've said that, because of the difficult of seeing contractions in IM videos, if abby want to put videos like that they should be in the solo section.

                                        That's all...

                                        Greetings

                                        SORRY POSTED TWO TIMES INSTEAD OF EDITING, the right is the second. Moderators, please remove the first.
                                        Last edited by totigno; 28 March 2008, 09:31 PM.

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by totigno View Post
                                          SORRY POSTED TWO TIMES INSTEAD OF EDITING, the right is the second. Moderators, please remove the first.
                                          Please press EDIT in the lower-right corner of that post, and press the DELETE button there. You'll figure out the rest

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                                            #22
                                            ok thanks!

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                                              #23
                                              to see the girl cum you dont need an ultra closeup personally I dont really like a super zoom

                                              what Im saying is just a better angle so when she does orgasm you can see her contractions

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by just102 View Post
                                                to see the girl cum you dont need an ultra closeup personally I dont really like a super zoom

                                                what Im saying is just a better angle so when she does orgasm you can see her contractions
                                                right, I'm saying the same, but no one seems to be interested

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by totigno View Post
                                                  ok, there is a thing that I really hate.
                                                  Those shots in wich a model masturbates but the video ends without orgasm. If you shot a model masturbating, please ask her to end her work...
                                                  totigno, think about why you like AW. I guess it's because here is everyting REAL. No silicon tits, no tons of make-up, no false finger nails, no "photoshopping" etc. Do you really like to see a FAKED orgasms? Go somewhere else. On most of the xxx-sites you can see "orgasms" (faked ones ofcourse). I prefer the real ones from the AW-girls, if they have one.

                                                  Imagine, you're in front of a camera and the camera-man and some people from the staff are watching you masturbating. Will you get a orgasm? Will you become even hard at all? It's GREAT that some of the girls really get a orgasm in front of a watching cam (or they are damn good actresses!).

                                                  Originally posted by totigno View Post
                                                  Plus I would like to see more videos showing pussy contractions during orgasms. Someone says it is impossible, I know it isn't because there are some videos in the website showing them, so if Abby and the models want it, this thing is definitely possible. And I'm not the only one who is interested in that kind of videos.
                                                  Yes, and I wanna see anal prolapses and see the girls ejaculating liters of liquid and see them to have the orgasm totally out of control so that they even fart when they come. Come on ... when happens this in reality? (And I fucked more than 200 - the prostitutes not counted.) Most girls doesn't even ejaculate at all, even they can, but they think it's dirty or evel or ... I don't know. It's not only the camera, it's the awareness, that the vid will be PUBLISHED. Think about how you would feel in front of a cam. How much YOU would be able to relax in front of a cam.

                                                  I think the girls are really, REALLY great and I have a hell of respect for their performances!

                                                  Originally posted by totigno View Post
                                                  Greetings, sorry for my english.
                                                  Greetings and sorry too for my bad english.
                                                  Last edited by sangean; 31 March 2008, 05:20 PM.

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                                                    #26
                                                    Totigno and Sangean, I think both of you have very good English and are very easy to understand. You can stop apologizing.

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                                                      #27
                                                      Boh, I don't understand you sangean. Who said I'd like to see those stupid things you say? Boh...

                                                      So Carla's orgasm in the video posted before is faked because you can see contractions? Boh...

                                                      Maybe you should try to figure out what a female orgasm is and what are female body reactions...

                                                      Plus, I'm not a model so I don't wonder if I embarass in front of a cam...I'm not getting paid to do it. I pay to see it.

                                                      Good bye.

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                                                        #28
                                                        Totigno, please try not to attack other members if they disagree with you ok? Just agree to disagree. On this partiulair thread you're likely to find LOTS of stuff you disagree with, everybody has different tastes obviously.

                                                        Some people will for example enjoy Carla's video (I enjoyed all her vids ;-) and some will not. Fortunately there's enough for everybody on abbywinters.com

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                                                          #29
                                                          It is kinda uncomfortable having to masturbate in front of people with a camera in ur face...it's awkward ESP. when we're amateurs!! we dont have prctise being used to cameras and having sex in front of them. we're just girls off the street (not literally..were not prostitutes)...it's awkward and it's hard.
                                                          it's harder for girls to maturbate to orgasm anyway!!! Of course it's ALWAYS the Intention that we will "masturbate to orgasm" in our shoots that require that, but it doesnt always happen. Just like it doesnt always happen for girls in their natural sex life...there have been times when i've been lying at home in a perfect situation to masturbate and I still can't get myself over that edge. I was faking my masturbation, I just couldnt get there!

                                                          often, with the IM's..girls have already been masturbating that day, in a DIM for instance...and so it's harder...after already having cum three times that day, to get urself to that final point.

                                                          give us a break. it isnt easy but we do our best!

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by arsby View Post
                                                            Totigno and Sangean, I think both of you have very good English and are very easy to understand. You can stop apologizing.
                                                            THX, it would be nice. But see below: totigno couldn't understand what I was trying to tell him without ANY aggression. See, in MY languyage I can put small, sharp knifes in a polite sentence or I can tell all my feelings in just some words. When I use the english language I'm 'a elephant in a porcelain-shop' (old german saying).

                                                            Originally posted by cleo View Post
                                                            we're amateurs!! we dont have prctise being used to cameras and having sex in front of them. we're just girls off the street (not literally..were not prostitutes)
                                                            That's the point (for me) why this site is so GREAT. Before I found abbywinters all I did know about Australia was: There are living kangaroos, koalas and there is the Great Barrier Reef. Now I know, Australia is the most wonderful part of this planet cauz there are the most beautyful girls all over the world.

                                                            Originally posted by cleo View Post
                                                            Just like it doesnt always happen for girls in their natural sex life...there have been times when i've been lying at home in a perfect situation to masturbate and I still can't get myself over that edge.
                                                            I don't know if men in generally have this problem, but, yes, I have it sometimes too. I think it's normal, not to be able to come, if not everything is relaxed.

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