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    Hello everyone!

    As some of you may know, I have made some of the fetish pages. There are lots of them now, so we've covered a lot of ground. Do you have a fetish that's missing? Could be model feature (like freckles) or something about the shoot (outside) or a type of picture you really like (legs wide open). I would love to hear directly from the members on this!

    #2
    This sounds like a fun project! There really is quite an assortment of fetish pages already, I'm not sure how many more there could be. Reading your post, I thought, "oh, freckles and opens legs would be good ones!" then I realized they already exist. One idea I had sort of expands on the outside theme: there's already a page for that, but maybe one specifically for outdoor sex? That always looks exciting. You could have a solid start for that page just with your friends Nichole (with you, Laney, Ophelia and Alva) and Kylie (with Noa, Immie, Ren and Masie) and there's lots of other great shoots that fit the theme.

    I'm not sure if this works and it might be tricky to identify which ones to include, but I always love the girl-girls where one of the models is having sex with a girl for the first time. You with Nichole, Jada with Kenji, Billie T with Bobbie, Emma B with Ekaterina (I can come up with lots more...)

    I'm also intrigued by colorful dyed hair, if there's enough of that for a whole page: Bobbie, Cornelia, Jay, Thais and Jette come to mind.

    I'll see if I can come up with some other suggestions for you!
    Last edited by massfan3; 13 October 2017, 04:11 AM.

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      #3
      Hi Renae. What about a page for models (such as yourself) who have been frequent posters here on the discussion boards? Many of my favorite models are ones we have gotten to know a bit here. It could be called Posting Queens or maybe Chatty Abbys.

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        #4
        Hi Renae D,

        i think it's better to split the fetish page in two sections. For example in stills and shoots because many actions have the same or a better effect in the shoots. The fetish suggestions, wich i have described in the "Missing Best of ..." Thread, are all better placed in a shoot fetish. End there is another point. For example the "Wet Pussy" stills (e.g. Giselle and Julia B Image 151 - Image 162) are not identical with the corresponding shoot. This can make a little confusion by the new members. For my first time i have thought, that these scenes are also appear in the shoots.

        I have still some further fetish suggestions:

        Eye Contact
        Orgasm Contraction
        Tongue Playing
        Slow Touching
        Intense Cuddle


        I hope you can identify my bad english

        Regards

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          #5
          Originally posted by massfan3 View Post
          This sounds like a fun project! There really is quite an assortment of fetish pages already, I'm not sure how many more there could be. Reading your post, I thought, "oh, freckles and opens legs would be good ones!" then I realized they already exist. One idea I had sort of expands on the outside theme: there's already a page for that, but maybe one specifically for outdoor sex? That always looks exciting. You could have a solid start for that page just with your friends Nichole (with you, Laney, Ophelia and Alva) and Kylie (with Noa, Immie, Ren and Masie) and there's lots of other great shoots that fit the theme.

          I'm not sure if this works and it might be tricky to identify which ones to include, but I always love the girl-girls where one of the models is having sex with a girl for the first time. You with Nichole, Jada with Kenji, Billie T with Bobbie, Emma B with Ekaterina (I can come up with lots more...)

          I'm also intrigued by colorful dyed hair, if there's enough of that for a whole page: Bobbie, Cornelia, Jay, Thais and Jette come to mind.

          I'll see if I can come up with some other suggestions for you!
          I really like the first timer (aka virgins?) idea! The downside is yeah I have no idea how to definitively get that information! I might suggest that one to Garion - maybe some of you long-time members could help me out!

          Originally posted by trebor View Post
          Hi Renae. What about a page for models (such as yourself) who have been frequent posters here on the discussion boards? Many of my favorite models are ones we have gotten to know a bit here. It could be called Posting Queens or maybe Chatty Abbys.
          Would definitely be a useful list to have .... hmmm

          Originally posted by akksakks View Post
          Hi Renae D,

          i think it's better to split the fetish page in two sections. For example in stills and shoots because many actions have the same or a better effect in the shoots. The fetish suggestions, wich i have described in the "Missing Best of ..." Thread, are all better placed in a shoot fetish. End there is another point. For example the "Wet Pussy" stills (e.g. Giselle and Julia B Image 151 - Image 162) are not identical with the corresponding shoot. This can make a little confusion by the new members. For my first time i have thought, that these scenes are also appear in the shoots.

          I have still some further fetish suggestions:

          Eye Contact
          Orgasm Contraction
          Tongue Playing
          Slow Touching
          Intense Cuddle


          I hope you can identify my bad english

          Regards
          I know what you mean, sometimes different things happen in the stills vs. the shoot. Someday when we can include video clips, there will be a mix of both. Also, some fetishes are a collection of whole shoots - like the pregnant one.

          Also, your english isn't bad at all!

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            #6
            Originally posted by renae_d View Post
            I really like the first timer (aka virgins?) idea! The downside is yeah I have no idea how to definitively get that information! I might suggest that one to Garion - maybe some of you long-time members could help me out!
            I've definitely got you covered if you decided to the first-timer page! I remember quite a few of them and can point you to where in the handwritten bios, raves or videos where the first time aspect is discussed. You know where to find me if you'd like some help on that one.

            I'd also like to second akksakks's eye contact idea. I think that would be doable with just stills where the partners are looking into each other's eyes at the height of passion, like this. So sexy.
            Last edited by massfan3; 17 October 2017, 03:21 AM.

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              #7
              I'm still trying to convince Garion that the first timers is a viable fetish! If I get the green light, I will DEFINITELY need your help!

              That's a really nice example of eye contact. I thought it might be hard to find. Or hard to really capture (have to get both eye gazes). I will have to give this one more consideration!

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                #8
                Hi Renae,

                you can also use screenshots from the videos. I have a sample from Marleen.

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                Regards

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                  #9
                  Hi Renae,

                  is in your fetish page the 69 Position present? I believe not.

                  Here is a sample.

                  Regards

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by renae_d View Post
                    I'm still trying to convince Garion that the first timers is a viable fetish! If I get the green light, I will DEFINITELY need your help!
                    You’ll never be allowed to create a page like that because the site likes to suggest that all its new models have “never done anything like this before”.

                    You can sort of create a fetish page if you use tags properly. There’s a tag “absolute first timer” that can be used here, but you have to be careful with it. First of all you have to be sure that the model really is an absolute first timer, and you might be able to find that out from something in her hand written bio, or something she says on her video, or maybe something in the shoot rave — but be careful with this last one, because if the rave says something like “her very first Abbywinters shoot”, that doesn’t mean she hasn’t modelled elsewhere. Eg Kate G’s first shoot rave gave strong hints that she was an absolute first timer, but in fact she had shoots on Girls Out West already.

                    Also you have to apply the tag to a shoot, not to an individual picture, and it has to be the model’s first shoot. The tag system on this site is hopelessly complicated and it’s not easy to get it right, so you’ll have to read the instructions about how to tag very closely.

                    The good news is that if you find the tag and you click on it, you’ll get a list of all the shoots with that tag. Phoebe T has the tag, and if you click on it you should get 193 models

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by akksakks View Post
                      Hi Renae,

                      you can also use screenshots from the videos. I have a sample from Marleen.

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                      Regards
                      That is theoretically true, but we aren't currently using screenshots. I don't think the quality of the image is good enough compared to the actual stills. Will have to wait for when we can include video clips!

                      Originally posted by akksakks View Post
                      Hi Renae,

                      is in your fetish page the 69 Position present? I believe not.

                      Here is a sample.

                      Regards
                      True! 69 is a good one! Do you think it should just be GG 69, or BG scenes too? I don't think there are any fetishes that mix GG and BG shoots. This could be the first? Or maybe people prefer them to always stay separate?

                      Originally posted by Jacksonpe49 View Post
                      You’ll never be allowed to create a page like that because the site likes to suggest that all its new models have “never done anything like this before”.

                      You can sort of create a fetish page if you use tags properly. There’s a tag “absolute first timer” that can be used here, but you have to be careful with it. First of all you have to be sure that the model really is an absolute first timer, and you might be able to find that out from something in her hand written bio, or something she says on her video, or maybe something in the shoot rave — but be careful with this last one, because if the rave says something like “her very first Abbywinters shoot”, that doesn’t mean she hasn’t modelled elsewhere. Eg Kate G’s first shoot rave gave strong hints that she was an absolute first timer, but in fact she had shoots on Girls Out West already.

                      Also you have to apply the tag to a shoot, not to an individual picture, and it has to be the model’s first shoot. The tag system on this site is hopelessly complicated and it’s not easy to get it right, so you’ll have to read the instructions about how to tag very closely.

                      The good news is that if you find the tag and you click on it, you’ll get a list of all the shoots with that tag. Phoebe T has the tag, and if you click on it you should get 193 models
                      I think you misunderstand the spirit of this fetish. It's not about what they have or haven't done on camera before. I'm talking about girls who have never been sexually intimate with a girl before. Virgins in the realm of lesbian sex. My shoot with Nichole is an example, Mirai with Laney, Aletta and Klara (if memory serves). If a girl had done tons of nude modeling, and even straight porn, but had never been with a girl, she would still qualify in this category. Whereas a lesbian with no experience whatsoever in front of camera, but who had had girlfriends in her private life, would not. I don't think anyone is encouraging girls to pretend they've never been with a girl before if they have. So I don't think the absolute first timers tag will be very helpful here.

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                        #12
                        69 is a good one! I think it would be cool to focus on shots where we can see the entire bodies of both partners like this one from Amanda and Maylin's fabulous shoot. (A closeup of someone's face in 69, while sexy, isn't really that different from a closeup in another position...) I could go either way about mixing GG and BG: I guess I'd lean toward keeping them separate, but the 69 tag mixes them up, and that works all right.

                        While were talking about positions, face-sitting could be another possibility, again with longer shots so we get a sense how the partners are relating, like Katerina looking delighted by what Cornelia is doing for her...

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                          #13
                          Hi Renae,

                          i thought that your first shoot was with Kylie H (Sep. 19. 2012).

                          Regards

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by massfan3 View Post
                            69 is a good one! I think it would be cool to focus on shots where we can see the entire bodies of both partners like this one from Amanda and Maylin's fabulous shoot. (A closeup of someone's face in 69, while sexy, isn't really that different from a closeup in another position...) I could go either way about mixing GG and BG: I guess I'd lean toward keeping them separate, but the 69 tag mixes them up, and that works all right.

                            While were talking about positions, face-sitting could be another possibility, again with longer shots so we get a sense how the partners are relating, like Katerina looking delighted by what Cornelia is doing for her...
                            The only thing is that there is already a pussy eating fetish which probably has some 69 and face sitting in it. We would have to think about how many pussy eating based pages make sense to have. Hmm....

                            Originally posted by akksakks View Post
                            Hi Renae,

                            i thought that your first shoot was with Kylie H (Sep. 19. 2012).

                            Regards
                            That shoot got released first, but my shoot with Nichole was shot before. It is confusing!

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                              #15
                              Hi Renae,

                              it's a little bit unusual about the shoot and release time.

                              I have another point. I guess that the stills will most be before the shoots. Are there other gg shoots which the stills follows the shoots?
                              I think this was another situation for the girls and more exciting for the viewer.

                              Regards

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by akksakks View Post
                                Hi Renae,

                                it's a little bit unusual about the shoot and release time.

                                I have another point. I guess that the stills will most be before the shoots. Are there other gg shoots which the stills follows the shoots?
                                I think this was another situation for the girls and more exciting for the viewer.

                                Regards
                                Kylie was the model liaison back then, so maybe she pulled some strings so she could see our video together first

                                Yes, I do think most of the time the stills are first. In all of my shoots I do the video first (I always make that request). There are pros and cons to both ways. For me, I know that after lunch I will be sleepy, wanting a nap, feeling lazy, and not as horny (because I already had 1 or 2 orgasms!) So I like to put all my energy into the video, and then I can be kinda lazy and silly in the stills and no one will know (hopefully!) I am just a very low-energy person. Shoot days at AW really wear me out (I used to fall asleep on the tram home and miss my stop!)

                                But on the other hand, if you do the stills first, you can learn more about your partner and get more comfortable knowing what she likes, so you can do even better in the video. Kinda like how sex gets better with someone when you do it more times.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by renae_d View Post


                                  I think you misunderstand the spirit of this fetish. It's not about what they have or haven't done on camera before. I'm talking about girls who have never been sexually intimate with a girl before. Virgins in the realm of lesbian sex. My shoot with Nichole is an example, Mirai with Laney, Aletta and Klara (if memory serves). If a girl had done tons of nude modeling, and even straight porn, but had never been with a girl, she would still qualify in this category. Whereas a lesbian with no experience whatsoever in front of camera, but who had had girlfriends in her private life, would not. I don't think anyone is encouraging girls to pretend they've never been with a girl before if they have. So I don't think the absolute first timers tag will be very helpful here.
                                  Yes I obviously did misunderstand. But you could still do the same thing and use a shoot tag. I'd suggest not just plain "virgin" though, because there are some models on the site who actually were virgins. Maybe "GG virgin" would be better.

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                                    #18
                                    Thanks for the insight on the stills/video order! I've always wondered about how that works, but it seemed like kind of a wonky thing to actually ask anyone. The goals should always be for the models to have the best possible orgasms in the video to capture for posterity, and you've definitely sorted out what works best for you and makes for amazing shoots (don't worry, you never come across as lazy in the stills: just super-sexy!). While we're talking behind the scenes details, I've also been curious about the logistics of GG shoot days, like how long it takes to shoot video and stills, and how long you have to meet and chat with your partner before you start playing together on camera.

                                    I don't think anyone would object to more than one fetish page detailing different nuances of pussy eating, but you're right, the existing page does cover a lot of ground.

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                                      #19
                                      Hi Renae,

                                      i have a question about the first timer.
                                      Why did you or the other first at AW decided to get lesbian experience.

                                      An other question is, that a tag exists which named lesbian. Means that that the girls are really Lesbian or they are Bi but prefer girlfriends.

                                      Regards

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by massfan3 View Post
                                        Thanks for the insight on the stills/video order! I've always wondered about how that works, but it seemed like kind of a wonky thing to actually ask anyone. The goals should always be for the models to have the best possible orgasms in the video to capture for posterity, and you've definitely sorted out what works best for you and makes for amazing shoots (don't worry, you never come across as lazy in the stills: just super-sexy!). While we're talking behind the scenes details, I've also been curious about the logistics of GG shoot days, like how long it takes to shoot video and stills, and how long you have to meet and chat with your partner before you start playing together on camera.

                                        I don't think anyone would object to more than one fetish page detailing different nuances of pussy eating, but you're right, the existing page does cover a lot of ground.
                                        You definitely get a couple hours to chat I would say. There's paperwork, traveling to location, and setting up cameras and lights. And they also have to do all kinds of checks for you both. The actual filming time is what you see, since it doesn't really get edited down at all. In the end though, there's loads of little things that have to be done, so it's a full 9-5 (or longer).

                                        Originally posted by akksakks View Post
                                        Hi Renae,

                                        i have a question about the first timer.
                                        Why did you or the other first at AW decided to get lesbian experience.

                                        An other question is, that a tag exists which named lesbian. Means that that the girls are really Lesbian or they are Bi but prefer girlfriends.

                                        Regards
                                        That's a really complicated question! I'll try not to make it too long! I had fantasized about being with a girl for a long time, but I'm pretty shy, and I didn't have any girl friends. So I met Nichole at AW and we got to be fast friends, and I realized I had a really big crush. I wanted to do a shoot with her but at the time, she wasn't available. I didn't want it to be with anyone else because I wanted it to be special, so when I went back to Amsterdam, we made the plan to do the shoot. I think it is less pressure in a way to do it this way. In real life I would have been wondering what it meant for our friendship and all kinds of complicated things. Doing a shoot, you know is a one time thing.

                                        I don't know if there is a lesbian tag. It is hard to know this information and it is up to the model to reveal it, so you'll just have to be a detective on this one!

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by renae_d View Post
                                          That's a really complicated question! I'll try not to make it too long! I had fantasized about being with a girl for a long time, but I'm pretty shy, and I didn't have any girl friends. So I met Nichole at AW and we got to be fast friends, and I realized I had a really big crush. I wanted to do a shoot with her but at the time, she wasn't available. I didn't want it to be with anyone else because I wanted it to be special, so when I went back to Amsterdam, we made the plan to do the shoot. I think it is less pressure in a way to do it this way. In real life I would have been wondering what it meant for our friendship and all kinds of complicated things. Doing a shoot, you know is a one time thing.

                                          Hi Renae,

                                          thank you for your honest answer. I am surprised that you say that you are a shy girl.
                                          I think in all your gg shoots you had show a lot of fun and passion. Your "dirty talks" were wonderful.

                                          Can we hope, that you are in front of the camera someday again with a gg shoot?

                                          Regards

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                                            #22
                                            Thanks for the insight, Renae! That's nice that you get a few hours to chat with your partner beforehand. The models usually look very comfortable together, and I'm sure that's part of the reason why. I can see why shoot days wear you out: 9-5 is long day of being sexy! All your hard work pays off, beautifully of course. Your story about Nichole is so sweet! I'm so glad it all worked out she got to be your first. Your shoot together is just wonderful.

                                            You're right that the lesbian tag is probably too tricky: most of the models who have done GG seem to like both men and women and talk thoughtfully about the difference. However, there are, I believe, two GGs with real-life couples, which are very sweet: Marietta and Sabina and Tamara A and Jennifer L. Not enough for a whole fetish page, but lovely!

                                            I thought of an other fetish page idea: something along the lines of flushed cheeks or heights of pleasure, which always looks hot in photos, either alone, or with a partner.

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by akksakks View Post
                                              Can we hope, that you are in front of the camera someday again with a gg shoot?

                                              Regards
                                              I kind of doubt it I'm afraid! I'm just so much older than most of the models these days! I can't relate to these youngins!

                                              Originally posted by massfan3 View Post
                                              You're right that the lesbian tag is probably too tricky: most of the models who have done GG seem to like both men and women and talk thoughtfully about the difference. However, there are, I believe, two GGs with real-life couples, which are very sweet: Marietta and Sabina and Tamara A and Jennifer L. Not enough for a whole fetish page, but lovely!

                                              I thought of an other fetish page idea: something along the lines of flushed cheeks or heights of pleasure, which always looks hot in photos, either alone, or with a partner.
                                              Hmm, that's an idea!

                                              Well guys I am happy to report that Lesbian 69 is officially a fetish!

                                              https://www.abbywinters.com/fetish/lesbian_69


                                              Up next, face sitting!
                                              Last edited by renae_d; 6 November 2017, 09:31 PM.

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                                                #24
                                                Awesome job, Renae! Thanks for putting together the 69 page, there are some super-hot shots in there. What's it like to organize one of these pages? Do you feel like you discover some interesting things about how people have sex, or is it more of just a scavenger hunt of training your eyes to pick out good examples of the fetish? Good luck with the hunt for face sitting shots!

                                                And while I wouldn't want you to do more GGs yourself if it would make you uncomfortable, you're not *that* much older than many of the current models, and I'm pretty none of your potential partners would have a problem with any age gap and might well find it very sexy. Anyway, you've given us so many wonderful shoots over the years, I shouldn't be greedy for more!

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                                                  #25
                                                  Hi Renae,

                                                  congratulation for your new fetish page 69. The pictures are very erotic. I think you had a lot of work to find a good selection. I'm impressed about the speed of your work.

                                                  I'm a litte shocked about your statement that you are old.
                                                  If i had reached the 30th i had the best years about sex, erotic and passion. With 32 i had met a woman which was 12 years older than me. She had so many experience and was so passionante. It was another Level of erotic. We were together for 3 years and every day was a pleasure.

                                                  It is like whiskey. The older the better.

                                                  I have watched all your shoots and my opinion is, that you have more and more prettier. I believe, that any AW model have be a great pleasure to make a shoot with you. I do not know if you had watched the shoot with Carly T and Hannah C. This was one of the best gg shoots about AW. The age difference is not important about tenderness. The heart decides.

                                                  But I agree your decision. You should not do what you do not want. But if you feel that you have still enjoy about the shoots, then enjoy these moments.

                                                  Regards

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by massfan3 View Post
                                                    Awesome job, Renae! Thanks for putting together the 69 page, there are some super-hot shots in there. What's it like to organize one of these pages? Do you feel like you discover some interesting things about how people have sex, or is it more of just a scavenger hunt of training your eyes to pick out good examples of the fetish? Good luck with the hunt for face sitting shots!

                                                    And while I wouldn't want you to do more GGs yourself if it would make you uncomfortable, you're not *that* much older than many of the current models, and I'm pretty none of your potential partners would have a problem with any age gap and might well find it very sexy. Anyway, you've given us so many wonderful shoots over the years, I shouldn't be greedy for more!
                                                    Some are more fun to put together than others. I did 'Australian' and that was a nightmare! It was like when you say a word over and over and it starts to sound weird, same thing with the Australian accent! They probably should have had an Australian do that one! But I really like doing the ones which are a compilation of images and in which I have a little lee-way in my choices. Off the top of my head some of my favorites have been bathtub, large breasts, freckles, pregnant and lactating, FKK outdoor nudist, beach and river play, and glasses on naked girls. The anal dildo one probably made me the horniest. I've definitely discovered a lot more models, and love trying to select the best, most flattering photo of a model. I could probably work a lot faster if I just found the images that meet the criteria and move on, but I really like to curate the best collection possible.



                                                    Originally posted by akksakks View Post
                                                    Hi Renae,

                                                    congratulation for your new fetish page 69. The pictures are very erotic. I think you had a lot of work to find a good selection. I'm impressed about the speed of your work.

                                                    I'm a litte shocked about your statement that you are old.
                                                    If i had reached the 30th i had the best years about sex, erotic and passion. With 32 i had met a woman which was 12 years older than me. She had so many experience and was so passionante. It was another Level of erotic. We were together for 3 years and every day was a pleasure.

                                                    It is like whiskey. The older the better.

                                                    I have watched all your shoots and my opinion is, that you have more and more prettier. I believe, that any AW model have be a great pleasure to make a shoot with you. I do not know if you had watched the shoot with Carly T and Hannah C. This was one of the best gg shoots about AW. The age difference is not important about tenderness. The heart decides.

                                                    But I agree your decision. You should not do what you do not want. But if you feel that you have still enjoy about the shoots, then enjoy these moments.

                                                    Regards
                                                    Thanks!

                                                    I don't think I'm 'too old' but I am really picky about who I want to shoot with, and I am more attracted to women who I feel more of a connection to and I feel like I can relate to, which is usually closer to my age. It would be very hard to make it happen to bring me and someone I would pick together (if they would even like me back!), and probably expensive for just one shoot!

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by renae_d View Post
                                                      I've definitely discovered a lot more models, and love trying to select the best, most flattering photo of a model. I could probably work a lot faster if I just found the images that meet the criteria and move on, but I really like to curate the best collection possible.
                                                      If someone didn't know why Abby Winters is so awesome, I think this quote pretty much says it all. You clearly fit right in here, since I'm sure everyone at the company has same commitment to ensuring everything about the site is the highest quality and that the models are presented in the best, most flattering way. I'm glad you're having fun and getting horny putting together (most of) the collections. They all look great. Keep up the awesome work!

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                                                        #28
                                                        You are too sweet!

                                                        In other news, I cannot get this out of my head now:

                                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dax_tnZRExc

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                                                          #29
                                                          Hi Renae,

                                                          i have further suggestions for your fetish page if you are still interested.

                                                          Here a sample which can be named "Rubbing from behind".
                                                          The other one can be named "Pussy Colors" or "Pussy on Pussy".

                                                          Regards

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by renae_d View Post
                                                            In other news, I cannot get this out of my head now:

                                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dax_tnZRExc
                                                            Hahaha, I'm sure the Monty Python guys would be endlessly amused to know that face-sitting now makes people think of them.

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