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    #61
    That's interesting Diablo - i hadn't really thought about what it must be like for the staff at AW and what they tell people! I wonder what the rest of the staff say... I also wonder whether my parents would think it better or worse for me to be on the filming end of the camera than on the being filmed end! Hmmm...

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      #62
      I would figure that the danger, if there is one, for the maodels would come years down the road when they are in the corporate world or general business. Even married with children, that the vids or pics would surface or not just when they least expect it to.

      Yes there would be the kooks of course, but, like polittions here, apponents seems to focus in on the negatives of ones past. Having said that, even I would have never done anything like this before myself, would adopt at "don't ask, don't tell" attitude toward freinds and family. I find that in family and friends environmrnt, it is better not to tell everything you do. My parents never ask when I first slept with a girl, or what was my sexual orientation, and as I feel that it is my life, I never talked with them about it.

      Do I think the models or staff should tell what they do? No. Let's see here. Models do photo and video modeling. Diablo has a high profile IT job. Vid Dude works with an internet sote that has a private clientel. Velerie works for a modeling group. ect and notice the periods. When I worked the front door of a strip club, I told everyone it was a night club. And yes I am in a job now that I would rather my bosses not know about the club work and worry daily though not consummed by it, that someone will bring out the fact.

      Do I think the models or staff should discuss their work, No but if choose to do so, I think you have to first ask why you need to.
      Our President Clinton, besides getting a BJ in the oval office, smoked pot as a college student. That fact came out during his presidency. Our current President used his father to get out of going to war. Things done as a youth are going to come out in only two ways, either from someone who wants to get power over you or if stumbled upon by someone who does nopt like you anyway. neither of those matter and niether can hurt you if you live you life right. BTW Clinton even getting the BJ is more popular than ever now. You can over come anything in your past, by pointing out by your lives work that you are a good person which I believe most if not all people here are. "Don't ask, don't tell"

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        #63
        Margaret - okay, sorry sweetheart ; I didn't realise your father gave you a hard time when you rang him. That's something I hope I'd never do to my kids.....

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          #64
          Originally posted by emmar
          That's interesting Diablo - i hadn't really thought about what it must be like for the staff at AW and what they tell people! I wonder what the rest of the staff say... I also wonder whether my parents would think it better or worse for me to be on the filming end of the camera than on the being filmed end! Hmmm...
          Apparently Richard, of ISM/BA/IFM/SE fame, is faced with a similar dilemma as well...

          Working in a place like this also has its perks, too. I recently attended a birthday party for Fred*, one of our AW video editors, who is the same age as me. As I was new to everyone there, I had to introduce myself to everyone I conversed with. Fred had a number of friends/acquantances there, and as soon as I told each of them that I work at the same place as Fred, some of them suddenly interrupted me with pure exclamation: "Oh my god! You work with lesbian porn? That's so awesome!" Heh, way to boost your popularity in a conversation! (I suppose Fred is more liberal with telling people what he does...)

          After that point, they usually start telling me how sad and lowly they compare their occupation (one guy was an editor for a local caravan magazine, and happily shared with me the dull, mundane and bizarre highlights of his workday). Some of them also hit me up with lots of silly questions (eg. "do you get to see the girls being filmed live while going at it?"), so I decided, for a bit of fun, I'd spin their heads around, and tell them I do**

          *For the purposes of this post, I'll refer to him as Fred, although that's not his real name, and he doesn't have a AW.com forum presence as of now.
          **Actually, being a coder, I don't, unfortunately; I just hang out with Willow all day and make computers do funky things with my software-fu (which can be almost as fun!)

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            #65
            That was a great party. That caravan guy was great, bit of a flirt though. Ok, so he was sitting on my lap and trying to drag me into backrooms the whole night. (Nothing happened in the end.) As I say, "it's not a party til someone sees my boobs." Only two that I know of did, but whatever.
            *Ahem* Yeah, they would literally shout: "You work in lesbian porn?! Hey another here works in lesbian porn!" Just like that, just that loud. I actually found it quite liberating. My parents know I work for this site, but I never told them I'm a model. I'm sure they've considered that possibility. I'm going to have to come up with them some sort of story to tell all their business partners and long-time friends, as it would not fly.

            Actually, some of the top testimonials on this site have helped. I think one was from tacochan actually, though i can't be certain. For a while after telling them I'd e them really good ones. I think they put it out of their minds whenever possible and give me an "oh that's nice Val" when I bring it up. and then change the topic. But they know how visual I am and how much I love all the random other tasks I do (heaps of behind-the-scene stuff), so they are happy for me.

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              #66
              Originally posted by dacooper
              Margaret - okay, sorry sweetheart ; I didn't realise your father gave you a hard time when you rang him. That's something I hope I'd never do to my kids.....
              Nah dont worry about - i didnt. He just got his wires crossed and after he calmed down and me too, i think i ended up making the right decision about the position and lucky they accepted my application. So i am starting a new job in 3 weeks and really really looking forward to it.

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                #67
                the way i see it is I dont want to know my parents sexual experiences so why should they want to know mine.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by jennifer_l
                  the way i see it is I dont want to know my parents sexual experiences so why should they want to know mine.

                  oooh, good point. I swear, to this day I have NO idea how my parents conceived me!! LOL I really just don't want to know!! That's just too much information I reckon.

                  BTW Margaret congrats on your new job! I hope you love it! xo
                  Last edited by emmar; 28 August 2006, 08:28 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by maryjane
                    my mother found out when she was reading an email a friend had sent me. you know how when you reply to an email, the original text is still down the bottom, well she got to the bottom, but didnt stop readin it went on to say what i had done some nude modelling, and that i had really enjoyed it, but nothing else about it. all she said was 'i think you'd better hide that from your father!' and she never mentioned it or asked about it at all! lucky me! xoxoxoMJ
                    wow wat a shock!!!! yeh i think 1 day my parents will find out but as long as my step-dad doesn't stumble across it hisself is shuold b ok. my auntys a hippy an she wuold prob like this a lot. mabee i shuold ask her about it. has ne1s parents ever done dis? u neva kno!!!!!!!!!

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by EmmaR :
                      I swear, to this day I have NO idea how my parents conceived me!!
                      Oh, come on, Emma... you must have SOME idea....

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by dacooper
                        Originally posted by EmmaR :

                        Oh, come on, Emma... you must have SOME idea....

                        Oh, all right, I do have certain ideas, but I prefer not to think about them too much!! LOL

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                          #72
                          in the past i have told my mother everything - i told her when i figured out i was bi, when i wanted to march in the mardi gras, when i started taking drugs, when i got a tattoo, etc etc. the first shock i gave her she almost died. but as i keep on producing them, she seems to have chilled a little. well, she's got no choice, really :P and i've proven time and again that despite the fact that i'm doing something she personally doesn't approve of or thinks is dangerous, i am a mature adult and can not only make my own decisions, but take care of myself in every way. that said, there are some things she doesn't need to know about - like my sexual preferences and habits, and the fact that i'm nude all over the internet

                          it gets a little more difficult for me because my main source of income is porn-related, too - i edit sets here. i've told my mother exactly what my job entails, but that it's for a fashion website and the pictures i'm editing are for fashion spreads. i've obviously been a little too vague/nervous on the topic, because the other week she asked me if i was doing porn (with obvious distaste). obviously she didn't mean 'doing' in the way that i actually DO it, but nonetheless it was an awkward moment. i brushed it off - of _course_ not! god! i was considering working up to telling her i was doing this thing one day, but now i've already outright said i'm not, it's a difficult thing to come back from. i'd be admitting to outright lying to her :/

                          who knows. maybe she'll find out by herself one day. i think i'd prefer that, actually. less scary confrontation for me :P

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                            #73
                            Wow, this is another good thread. I don't have any kids of my own; however, I do have a couple of nieces. If I were to find out she was on ther Internet (or magazines, etc.), I would initially be upset. But I think I'd be okay with it after awhile (a long and tough while).

                            As long as I don't see any of the images. That would be absolutely horrific for me--and I would hope like heck it would be for her as well.

                            P.S. I think about that Adrianne girl from the "I Married a Brady" (or titled something like that) and how her father HAS to feel knowing she's been in Playboy nude and has pranced around the show in thongs and in her birthday suit on national TV. No matter how liberal, how cool, how understanding one is, That must feel absolutely horrible.

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                              #74
                              No matter how liberal, how cool, how understanding one is, That must feel absolutely horrible.
                              no, i think the point of being liberal is that sort of thing doesn't make you bat an eye - or, you're positive towards it.

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                                #75
                                Rachel_T

                                Originally posted by rachel_t
                                "i work in a bar"

                                i figure that they're going to find out eventually, as i plan to keep doing it for many years to come. sometimes i wonder whether they're going to be more pissed about the nudity, or about the fact that i've lied to them for so long..
                                Dear Rachel_T

                                will you keep nude modelling after marriage?

                                kronful

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                                  #76
                                  Originally posted by gabrielle
                                  no, i think the point of being liberal is that sort of thing doesn't make you bat an eye - or, you're positive towards it.
                                  Understood, Gabrielle. Sincerely.

                                  But I just think that how a person (father, etc.) deals with something, and how they react outwardly to something are two different things. I also believe that is what makes a liberal a liberal. Meaning, I consider myself liberal; however, how I feel [honestly] about something so personal does not make me any less "cool" and "understanding"--it makes me human.

                                  IMO, there is no such thing as a perfect Liberal (through and through, that is).

                                  Or something like that. But excellent point, Gabrielle. Made me think about my comment again.

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                                    #77
                                    Both of my parents recently found out about me being on ISM, individualy and without me telling them. There was not much chance of hiding it forever anyway, my mum is pretty good at being a detective and finds out EVERYTHING she found an ishotmyself card on my bedroom floor when she was visiting and asked a torrent of questions "is it nude" yes mum "is it porn" no LOL it's um it's art .. haha at least she is pretty chilled out about things when she does find out about them. My dad just found out a few weeks ago because he overheard my sister talking about it .. he did mention to me .. but unlike my mum didn't actually seem very interested.

                                    I am not planning on telling them about AW though .. I prefer to keep things a secret and let my mum have the satisfaction of unturfing the information herself. No in all seriousness I prefer that my parents don't find out. I think the context and the fact that there is insertions and explicit stuff on here makes it a bit of an uncomfortable parent/child topic of conversation. I guess I am always aware of the fact that they or my brothers could find out .. which I guess is the main reason why I wouldn't do explicit posing or T3 .. even if my parents saw the pictures of me - it wouldn't be that bad/embaressing .. I've been skinny dipping in the pressence of my parents in the past and being naked doesn't automatically make it sexual or inapropriate in my view .. but if they saw me inserting a dildo into my vagina ... i'd be horrified.

                                    I like to think that if and when I have children I will not be a hypocrite and if they choose to do something like model for AW I wouldn't reproach them for it or worry too much. I wouldn't encourage them to do it in anyway though. Just let them chose their own adventure.

                                    xox

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                                      #78
                                      Originally posted by max
                                      There was not much chance of hiding it forever anyway, my mum is pretty good at being a detective and finds out EVERYTHING she found an ishotmyself card on my bedroom floor when she was visiting and asked a torrent of questions "is it nude" yes mum "is it porn" no LOL it's um it's art .. haha at least she is pretty chilled out about things when she does find out about them. My dad just found out a few weeks ago because he overheard my sister talking about it .. he did mention to me .. but unlike my mum didn't actually seem very interested.
                                      Argh... isn't it just annoying when your parents want to know too much about what you do?

                                      I suppose, if they ever do find out, it'll come down to how much they value keeping contact with you, and how they value your happiness.

                                      When my mother discovered some clues as to what Abby's company does, she went completely spare at me for a few days, but then she realised that I was happy with my decision to work here, and I assured her I wouldn't have done so if I knew Abby's site was exploitative or degrading to anyone in any way. While we remain disagreed on whether there is such a thing as "erotic art", she knows it's not worth traumatising me over any of these issues, so she's now pretty calm about it all, and we still get on as we did before.

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                                        #79
                                        i've got a book called 'playboy redheads' it's got poses from the 50s 60s and 70s. now i don't see this stuff as porn i think it's sexy beautiful - above all tasteful.

                                        a few months ago my brother moved out due to some issues before this i told him about my modelling while we were in my hometown because i knew he was bound to find out while we were there.

                                        now i just got this book out because i haven't looked at it for a while and i found that he'd scribbled in it.

                                        'THESE AREN'T ROLE MODELS YOU WHORE I KNOW EVERYTHING'

                                        apparently blood is not thicker than water.

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                                          #80
                                          "and how would our members feel about their child doing something like this? would you be supportive, or would you be horrified/disappointed? would it upset you that hundreds of men were masturbating to videos of your daughter, or would you accept and embrace her choices and be okay with it?"

                                          I would be really disappointed if she do this just for money... I would think that I have given her alot of possibilities to have a better job.
                                          Last edited by kurtzeno; 19 September 2006, 10:54 AM.

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                                            #81
                                            Originally posted by evie
                                            ...now i just got this book out because i haven't looked at it for a while and i found that he'd scribbled in it.

                                            'THESE AREN'T ROLE MODELS YOU WHORE I KNOW EVERYTHING'

                                            apparently blood is not thicker than water.
                                            That's a sad story. Obviously he can't manage that you did the modelling.
                                            I think it's a crappy behaviour of him to scribble this in your book.
                                            He should have spoken to you, but was probably a big coward.

                                            Sorry for you.

                                            Lxm

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                                              #82
                                              Evie, Thats a really sad, disturbing story. Hope you don't let it get you down. Very much not cool of your brother. Sounds like he has some issues of his own going on...

                                              best
                                              Lawrence

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                                                #83
                                                Oh Evie!!!!!
                                                That is sad i think and im so sorry for you.
                                                What is it with family though? Your brother is acting like some medieval male who thinks he is responsible for the honour of the family or some such shit. You are NOT a whore - you are a woman who has made her own choices and not someone to be branded by another person who thinks they own you!!!!!!!!!!
                                                OK it seems that family are the hardest to get past in this respect - just like as kids we are a bit repulsed or dont want to know about our parents sexuality LOL i know i was deastated when i realised mum and dad fucked LOL - i guess we dont sexualise our families so its a shock when we finaly discover they are sexual creatures with their own secrets and desires.
                                                Im lucky in a way cos my mum is a very cool lady shes always talked about sex with me and always said what i did was my choice she would just try to make sure i had enough info to make sensible choices. I didnt always make great ones but at least they were mine and mum supported me even when i messed up.
                                                I could tell my mum (and dad too) that i was doing sex stuff or posing on abby even ( if i wasnt to chicken cos im planning to work as a teacher and shit scared id get caught out)- they would just say it was my business and i had to accept the consequences of my actions - fuck thats a huge burden LOL
                                                We are all human Evie - and we act like humans but our culture says we need to pretend we are modester than nature ever inteneded us to be. DONT you dare ever feel gulity about what you do - its your bro whose stepped over the line - he has to accept you as a person and as a sexual person for yourself not some sort of virgin princess for your bro to put on a pedestal.
                                                Its funny how men will call a girl a whore if she has the audacity to actually express heself sexually but in my experience they all want us to be whores in bed for them!!!!!!!!

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                                                  #84
                                                  Originally posted by Diablo
                                                  When my mother discovered some clues as to what Abby's company does, she went completely spare at me for a few days, but then she realised that I was happy with my decision to work here, and I assured her I wouldn't have done so if I knew Abby's site was exploitative or degrading to anyone in any way.
                                                  Some of my family knows, and some doesn't. Some don't care, and the ones who do continue to give me grief about working for Abby. But then I point out that they don't pay my mortgage, so their call on what I should do with my life is somewhat limited these days.

                                                  That usually shuts them up for an hour or so.

                                                  Rainbow

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                                                    #85
                                                    I don't have this problem, but, I have always maintained that you should be as honest as you can without hurting anyone.

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                                                      #86
                                                      thanks everyone,

                                                      I decided after reading that, that i was going to tell my parents, i figured that if my brother was writing this stuff about me that he might tell my parents things and then skew it even more.

                                                      So i drove to my dad's and then lost my nerve - waited a few hours and then told them - and they already knew.

                                                      i was in a magazine a few months ago and my mum found out (as with the whole town).

                                                      when she found out she made my step dad go down the street and buy every copy they had!!! hahaha.

                                                      so i talked to my dad and step mum about it and she was fine my dad was rather silent and said "well you could have done it on a less public scale"

                                                      i can't believe my mum didn't say anything she was just waiting for me to talk to her about it - i haven't yet but i will do so in the next few days.

                                                      wish me luck!

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                                                        #87
                                                        Greetings to all from a newcomer. My first post: models, beyond family members, what about others? If you have a day job, aren't you worried about the macho guys who hang out by the water cooler or on the shipping dock discovering your video and passing it around for yuks? How about the jock types down at the local pub? Or frat rats at your college? Or perhaps your adolescent brother will pass it around to his classmates. Also, there are a lot of weirdos and psychopaths out there (even in Melbourne, I'm sure). Aren't you worried about all this? I'm just curious. Am I being quaintly Victorian?

                                                        Best wishes,
                                                        Bix

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                                                          #88
                                                          do we even have jocks or frat boys here? if we do, i certainly don't have any contact with them. as for colleagues or other people i know finding out - good on em! a few friends have found me in random downloads, some have told me, some haven't (but i've found out they know in other ways), i think it's great fun. i'm not ashamed of doing this, so i don't see why i would care that people have seen it, or that they pass it around. in fact the other day a friend asked me about joining the site so they could see my stuff, and i gave them the details. it's all in good fun - and if they get to jerk off to a friend and get a kick out of it, then i'm happy i could help as i've said before, i actually quite like the thought of people getting off to pics of me, so the thought of a friend or colleague doing it is downright exciting! from a slightly different angle, it makes me feel very powerful - that geek workmate may not care who i am in the real world, but they'll drool and whack off over me in private. it makes me feel very smug :P

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                                                            #89
                                                            well aren't you just one of those people bixntram?

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                                                              #90
                                                              Originally posted by evie
                                                              i can't believe my mum didn't say anything she was just waiting for me to talk to her about it - i haven't yet but i will do so in the next few days.wish me luck!
                                                              Good luck, Evie, and keep doing what you do....

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